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I've been using fortune and pocket win for a while now and been depositing a fair bit into them. I've won big a few times but got to greedy and always lost it but this time I'm on £7000 and just before Christmas is massive as my income is so little with not working so I've kept it.

I've been asked to send i.d in again even though I've sent it in a few times! Then asked for a bank statement and my bank card to show deposits with that card which I've done . Now there asking for proof that my phone bill has been paid from over 3 years ago? What casino do you know that asks if your phone bill has been paid for over 3 years ago? I'm currently on a debt management plan and I'm only 20 so this money is massive to me and can pay a few debts off!

I've won my money fair in square and I find it a bit odd that when I was depositing on my phone bill you didn't have a problem taking them payments or any from my cards but as soon as a withdraw you ask me for loads of I.d? Who has a bill for wifi etc from 3 years ago? There is no way a CASINO can stop your withdraw for not providing a PHONE BILL from 3YEARS AGO!
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AskGamblers Complaints Team have been provided by valid evidence on behalf management of mFortune Casino where is clearly visible that player didn't pass casinos KYC and with that act breached aforementioned casino's general terms # 6.46.a, 6.46.b, 8.k, 11.72, 15.117

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant licensing authority responsible for mFortune Casino.
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We’ve taken a look into your complaint and have found that basic I.D. was requested along with verification of deposit methods – 3 x phone bills as you used 3 different phone numbers to make deposits at the same time.

Our Customer Support team made multiple attempts to advise you in I.D. and your withdrawal, however he kept changing his story as to why the I.D. couldn’t be provided.

On the 06/12/15, you advised us that the phone number on you main account was no longer active and were subsequently asked to provide end of contract to show that it was all paid up to date. On the 15/12/15, you then said that you hadn’t had that phone number for nearly two years and that you were in a debt management plan with his provider.

You then provided a phone bill on 25/01/16 however it did not pass security checks, due to discrepancies with the information you had provided prior to this point. We then requested original copies of the phone bill through the post as we doubted the authenticity of the documents provided.

You did not attempt to provide this information at any point.

You raised a complaint with our complaints team on 01/03/16 where you were advised that due to not providing the requested information within 60 days the withdrawal had been voided. You advised that we had said we would refund all deposits (this was not advised.) Complaints asked you to forward proof of this and no further correspondence was received from the you.

Evidence of this has been provided to AskGamblers anonymously.

Overall, this meant you were inbreach of multiple terms:

SECTION 6
46. In the case of any suspicious circumstances, we may, in our sole discretion, depending on the situation:
a. request reasonable further information from you to investigate whether the bet(s) constitute(s) suspicious betting;
b. suspend your Account or withhold payment of any withdrawals until we have receipt of satisfactory evidence (in our sole opinion) from you for us to determine that the deposit methods used are in your name, and that play is not fraudulent. For example, but without limitation, where we suspect that you have deposited funds via a mobile phone account which is not in your name or you are in default of settlement of your mobile phone bill, we may ask you to provide reasonable evidence that the mobile phone account is yours and that you have settled the mobile phone bill that you used to deposit funds before you can withdraw any winnings;
51. If we are informed by your mobile network operator that you have not settled your mobile phone bill in relation to deposits made to your casino account we will void all the bets on your Player Account.

SECTION 8
k. Where we have requested other items, such as proof of payment of a phone bill and the Player has failed to supply satisfactory proof within 60 days of the request.

SECTION 11
72. We may offer you a facility to top-up your Account by applying a charge to your mobile phone bill or mobile phone pre-pay account. We reserve the right to withdraw or limit this facility at any time and without notice. You may not use this facility if doing so is in breach of the terms of your mobile network operator agreement. If we are advised by your mobile network operator of your non-payment or misuse, or if payment is withheld by your operator or we suspect your non-payment or misuse of this facility, we may suspend or cancel your Account or ask you to provide evidence of payment to your network operator. Any credit (cashable and / or bonus) in your Account will be forfeited and withdrawals voided if your Account is cancelled in these circumstances.

SECTION 15
117. It is the responsibility of the Player to provide correct bank details for winning payments. Any payments returned to us due to incorrect bank details will be held for 180 days. After 180 days has elapsed Players will not be entitled to request repayment. Account holders requested to provide additional identification or other information, such as proof of payment of a phone bill, have 60 days from date of the request to provide required items. If items are not received in that time we reserve the right to close the Player Account and any pending or unclaimed withdrawals and credit (cashable and / or bonus) will be void.
Evidence supporting this has been attached.
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This complaint has been reopened due to the declared willingness on behalf of mFortune Casino management to do everything within their power to solve their old complaints. AskGamblers Complaints Team is happy to give these old cases one more chance for a successful resolution.

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AGCC team consider this complaint unresolved. We didn't get any relevant evidence from a casino management regarding this case. We recommend to the player to seek future help with licence authority of the mFortune Casino.

mFortune Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 43 / 45
Avg. Amount $1,345
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Money never arrived, waiting over a month for a solution

On the 30th of October 2021 at the time 22:25:49 I asked for a withdrawal on 500£ again same date but at the time 22:31:16 I asked for another 500£ withdrawal, so all in all I asked for 1000£withdrawal however it stated that for security reasons I could only ask for 500 in one go hence I did it 2 times, they asked for ID which I ofc send them on the 8th of October.

I reviewed a text saying thank you for sending the id and that I would get a message ones it had been verified, on the 12th of October I received a message from them saying congratulations on the win and that the money had been processed, however the money never arrived.

I got in contact with live support on the 2 nd of November and told them my concern and I send them bank statement to prove that the money had not arrived on my account, I was told they would forward this, however I didn't hear anything back other than another message saying thank you for identification and they would safe it to further use if necessary, about 10 days later as there had still not arrived any money I contacted live chat again and this time I was simply told the money had been processed on the 12th of October and that I needed to contact my bank.

I contacted my bank some days after ( I'm in cancer treatment so I don't react on these things as fast as usual) however got my bank contacted and they told me that no money had been tried to be payed out to my card or bank so they couldn't give me any info as the payment from mfortune nor inTouch games existed.

I then contacted live chat once again and first he asked if I has asked for a 10£ withdrawal which I ofc corrected him and told him not 10 but 1000£ all together, he took a look again and came back confirming the 1000£ and then telling me once again that it had been payed out on the 12th of October and that he did not know why the money had not arrived yet.

Once again he asked for a new statement to prove I had not received the money, I send that statement off as proof which was approved by him and told me I would receive a message from them, now we have the 30th of November and I haven't heard a word from them neither gave I received my withdrawal, I think it is really sad.

I have been very nice and polite through all this but I'll admit it feels a little like they are holding it back as they know I got cancer, so maybe they are thinking I might die soon and then no one will claim the money, that is my fault though as when I contacted them the first time I explained that I was going into treatment for cancer and therefore didn't have the energy to fight regarding getting my withdrawal payed out.

I hope I'm wrong but it does feel like they are just holding out waiting to see if I keep claiming the money sad but that's how I feel, I mean if they have trouble paying out to my debit card they could tell me and I would give them my PayPal instead.

Status rejected Rejected
£1,000
Withholding funds for over 2 weeks

I am writing this complaint again in relation to the pending withdrawal issue I have had with mfortune processing team over a withdrawal request of £2020 which they are still holding for no legitimate reason as I abided by all the terms and conditions of Mfortune and provided them with sufficient information and documentation over the period of last 2 weeks in relation to the withdrawal of £2020 to be processed. I created an account with mfortune casino around 2 weeks ago and made deposits total of around £1700, after playing for a few days I have had a win of £2020 so I requested a deposit of full £2020 from my mfortune account to my debit card and as a result I was asked to upload my identification documents (photo Id, prove of address & proof of the debit card) in order for the withdrawal to be approved and processed successfully which I did but a few days later I received another message requesting further documentation but this time I was asked to upload a video with me holding my driving license and the bank card which I used to make deposits in relation to the same withdrawal of £2020, I uploaded the video identification as requested via the mfortune app on Friday the 22nd of October. On Monday the 25th October 2021 I received another text message requesting a further document this time mfortune requesting a screenshot image or pdf bank statement showing deposits to my mfortune account so I uploaded an image of the requested bank statement, a day later on Tuesday 26th October 2021 I received another message in relation to the same withdrawal of £2020 requesting a PDF version of the same statement showing deposits to the mfortune account I even provided that and uploaded the PDF document of the statement hoping that my withdrawal of £2020 would be processed successfully but unfortunately that did not happen, on Wednesday the 27th of October 2021 I received a phone call from the compliance department of mfortune asking me further information in regards to the amounts and deposits shown on my statements which I uploaded previously and I explained to the advisor in great detail about the origin of the deposits and he was satisfied with that and assured me that my withdrawal request of £2020 will be processed but once again unfortunately that didn't happen and on Thursday the 28th of October 2021 I received a further call from the compliance department at Mfortune this time requesting the source of my income and I as asked to upload any proof of my income or I am in receipt of any benefits so once I again I uploaded a PDF version of my bank statement showing the receipt of my Universal Credits along with that I also uploaded my universal credit screenshot from the www.gov.uk website with the amount and dates showing of my universal credit account hoping that my withdrawal of £2020 would be processed after that but yet again it didn't happen instead on Wednesday evening my mfortune account was blocked and when I phoned to inquire about my account and withdrawal of £2020 I was provided with no information or any valid reasons for the blocking of my account as I abided by all terms and conditions and provided more than enough evidence in relation to my withdrawal of £2020, so I would like to file an official complaint to the complaints department in order to receive my withdrawal and this whole experience from start to finish have had a devastating impact on my physical and mental health so I would kindly request the relevant department or person to assist me with my withdrawal request please if I don't get my money or if I am unable to resolve this issue in an amicable way then I will have to take this further with IBAS and with my local MP as this whole process has put me in a really stressful and difficult situation.

Status solved Resolved
£2,020
Mfortune Casino now answer from 24th of August

On 9th Aug I won £8000 on Mfortune Casino app. I requested a withdrawal and i was then contacted by Mfortune on 11th Aug to submit some documents to verify my account.

ID, proof of address and bank statement were sent to Mfortune on 11th Aug 2021.

After 7 days on 18th Aug, mfortune realised that they need additional documents. I uploaded additional documents on same day and on 19th Aug I received a confirmation message stating that they have received everything they asked for!

Assuming that they have got everything they asked for I was waiting for my final confirmation message to verify my account but to my surprise, I received a call from the safer gambling team (Todd)on 24 Aug asking for more documents!! It took them 3 attempts to figure out what is needed to verify someone identity!! I am sure there are certain checks needed to b carried out but I can't understand why it took them so long to finally realise what's needed and what's missing.

I would have provided them with all these documents in the first instance if I knew what was needed.

I was assured by Todd that within 24 hours my account will be reviewed for final verification and to release the payment.

Ever since 24th Aug, I am still waiting for the confirmation.

My account is now banned and I can't access it.

Every day for past 24 days I have been on call to an operator listening to the same automated responses.

I have been told to keep waiting. That's all I get after 24 days. No SLA is being met as advertised on their website. It has certainly been longer than 3-5 working days.

Certainly it shouldn't take this long.

I really need to get this resolved as it is causing me unnecessary stress and it takes me on average 45 minutes each time on long queue every day to get hold of someone for an update.

Status solved Resolved
£8,000