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Winnings Denied Due to previous Self-Exclusion


I recently registered with jetbull and won 4000GBP fortunately. Only to be told that i was not able to have my winnings due to a self exclusion from CasinoFloor casino on 22/04/15 in which everymatrix ltd. operate.
I had registered at nextcasino 12/01/16 with my account verified and was able to withdraw i assumed that all other everymatrix casinos would allow me to play and win. But to my suprise they took several deposits amounting to 300GBP @jetbull casino only to be told about the self exclusion upon my withdrawal. I have the emails stating i was verified and no other emails stating my account was closed at next casino. I find this to be unfair play and highly unprofessional. I should be able to take my winnings from jetbull as i did from nextcasino
Disputed Casino Jetbull Casino
Reason Other

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Considering all the information provided during the course of the complaints process, and also that player continued to play at the casino after self-exclusion ended, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider that Jetbull Casino acted upon their Responsible Gambling Policy stated above.

AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant licensing authority responsible for Jetbull Casino.
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You can throw terms and conditions all day at me but the fact you seem to keep disregarding is that my account was verified under the same operators, so if this was verified and confirmed with a successful withdrawal how am i supposed to know that my self exclusion was still in place,
You clearly broke your own terms and consditions, my account was only "self excluded" with a substatial amount ow winnings but didnt seem to raise any issues when i made several deposits,
It does say in clause t
2 who operated the casino but again as i said and you keep ignoring is i had an accont verified under that same operator.
Again the regulators policy didnt apply when i made successful withdrawals, so these legal terms are not valid when you already broke them, The third party ADR did not respond to my complaint at all i have had no fair representation at all from anyone, all one sided from the casino that has continously ignored that i had already had an account verified in the self exclusion period.
There customer service took 16 months for a reply which is disgusting for any company jetbull and everymatrix casino did not act accordingly as they had taken several deposits, again i keep repeating my account was verified and withdrew under the same operator. still waiting to see the reason why this had happened, 16 months to find a reason why still no reply.
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Dear @mancdave85,

We understand your frustration regarding the fact that you believe your winning shouldn’t be denied from you. Jetbull constantly attempts to improve the entire process of self-exclusion and we assure you that work is already in progress on preventing any users who have self-excluded at Everymatrix from registering an account at our casino.

However, information about self-exclusion, its implications and enforcement are available both in the Terms and Conditions of the website and in the Responsible gaming section, which informs about the expectations players should have when and if they should choose to enter into a self-exclusion agreement. We are using our best efforts to enforce self-exclusion in a timely fashion, but self-exclusion implies a certain responsibility from the player’s side as well. This principle of the primary responsibility lies with the gambler, and not the operator.

On clause 2 of our terms, it is explained who owns the license. Moreover, under the Responsible Gambling section, clause 29.3, it is clearly stated that if you choose to self-exclude yourself, you will do that from all the casinos that operate under our License and in the case you succeed in opening an account, all of your bets and winning shall be voided, and only your deposits will be returned to you.

Under the regulator’s policies, we are forbidden from paying winnings to a person that has self-excluded himself/herself since this would contradict the entire purpose of the process and could only increase the damage caused to the person.

Jetbull therefore clearly states that acted accordingly to the responsible gambling policy. Player’s deposits have been refunded as per the relevant casino terms referring to responsible gambling matters.

We hope this explanation clarifies the matter.

Best regards,

Jetbull Team
User name loyalty-level-2
Hi,ecogra never replied to my email, I didnt get any fair support or a resolution. The casino or ecogra didn't really answer my questions sufficiently. The fact I was able to withdraw from another casino operated by the same company misled me in believing I could/should have been able to withdraw. My account was verified too under the same operator, It has taken 16months for a reply, so this shouldn't be closed. The account should have been flagged on the first site, I do believe that unfair play action was taken due to the fact I made legitimate wagers, and the casino decide my winnings was to substantial to release, the fact of the matter here is, had I have been informed from the first site this would have prevented me to register at another site avoiding this situation.

Jetbull Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 12 / 13
Avg. Amount $894
Avg. Complaint Duration 10 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

Jetbull Casino Complaints

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Delay and Misleading Withdraw Process
The reason I selected Jetbull Casino was because of the bank transfer withdraw option they offered . This is the method I use to withdraw funds if I am so lucky to win. I was fortunate and won $800 Canadian on April 25th . I requested to withdraw those winnings at that time and now they are saying that they do not offer the bank transfer option to Canadians. The reason they claim is because of the “closed loop policy” which is a part of the UK Gaming Commission which Jetbull Casino is licensed under.

Actually Jetbull Casino is Licensed under both the UK Gaming Commission which has the policy closed loop policy, and the Malta Gaming Authority which does not have this policy. The “closed loop policy” states how a customer deposits funds into their Jetbull account is the way they have to withdraw them. The Malta Gaming Authority does not have this policy in place which means a casino and customer can withdraw funds through various process. It seems Jetbull Casino is choosing what license to use or why else would they have two license. So now JetBull Casinos could potentially switch between the two licenses and delay or even deny a customers of their winnings.
I deposited funds into my JetBull account through my Visa debit, and they do not accept a reversal or a deposit back onto the debit card from casinos. I know this and this the reason I look for casinos that offer “bank transfers” as an option.

On their website as well as a majority of the casino review websites states that the bank transfer process is available to Canadian players. The choice of withdrawing funds is not disclosed until you go to withdraw and then it is too late since you already deposited and playing.
Now they are saying the only option available to me is to use a certain e-wallet which I don’t have an account as I have closed it for reasons.

I have sent email to their head office, EveryMatrix NV Casinos and their money management company Gammatrix Business Unit a recommendation that came through one of my many chat conversation. I received an email saying that they have created a “ticket “and nothing since it has been a good week now. Nice public relations!

So, it has been over two weeks now and it has been a very poor experience with this Jetbull Casino in regards to withdrawing funds and their communications department...

“I understand your frustration, but....."

Why is this an issue so often? You would think the licensing bodies would tighten up on these types of misleading practices...

Now I’m rambling...
Status solved Resolved
$800
Unfairly confiscated legitimate winnings upon migrating my account from another Every Matrix casino
On 7th June I signed up to Favour it casino - part of the EveryMatrix Group and a sister site of Jetbull. Before I was allowed to make my first deposit I had to verify my account. On 8th of June I was allowed to make my first deposit of £150 and claim a 200% bonus. With this bonus I was delighted to win £7797.80. Unfortunately when I logged in to play with my balance on 10th of June I was unable to use any of the games and soon after I received an email saying that Favour it was to cease trading immediately. My balance was to be migrated to Jetbull (which I had never even heard of) and quelle surprise - any bonus winnings which had not been fully wagered would be cancelled. Quite clearly this is the definition of a rogue casino operator. Unfortunately it is very difficult to bring this company to justice. Favouor it no longer respond to any correspondence as they have ceased to trade, and Jetbull are claiming that they have nothing to do with it (despite the fact that they are where my money now is) and tell me to email favour it again. I have emailed UKGC who were the regulator for Favour it but they say they are not the Alternative Dispute Regulator for Favour it and I need to contact eCogra to handle an individual dispute. eCogra say they are no longer the ADR for Favour it as they no longer exist and their licence with UKGC is 'inactive' - does this simply mean that they can close down and instantly no longer have to answer to any kind of regulatory body? I am fed up of being sent round in circles and cant believe it is this easy for a casino to close down and completely dissappear. Quite clearly Jetbull/EveryMatrix need to step up and take responsibility.
Status solved Resolved