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Runaround with verification and refusing to pay legitimate winnings


First, I made my deposit with Neteller and won at the casino games. Then I asked them to send my win to Neteller. They asked for many papers.
I sent them my identifications and my billing address proof and proof of payment - a copy of my Neteller.

Then they ask me for bank information, like account number, swift code and I tell them to send my win to Neteller and they say they will try but still want my bank information so I give them all my bank information, account number, SWIFT, and all the other information.

Then they also say they want my bank statement and my bank card details even though I said to pay me by Neteller. I told them I will not send my statement and copy of card because I will not risk giving out all this information so that they could access my bank account. I tell them I want to be paid by Neteller but if they insist they can send me the bank wire to my bank account. They have all the information required to send me a bank wire.

But they keep insisting for bank statement and all my card details so I tell them I will open a new bank account if they want wall of that and they say that is fine. I open a new bank account with only a little money so that there is not the risk of them stealing from my account. I send them my bank statement and they still insist on my bank card too. I have to wait 15 days for the bank to issue the new card and I send them the picture of the card.

After all this they said I took too long to send them all of this even though they are delaying because they take days to answer emails and I have to follow up with emails
all the time because they don't answer my first email. Then they keep asking more things. Then they say they they "are unable to verify my identity/there are inconsistencies" and they will not pay me! I ask them why they cannot verify and they never answer my email.

After I send them multiple identifications, billing proofs, copies of my neteller, bank details for 2 of my bank accounts, bank statement, and copy of my bank card they still say they cannot verify my identity and will not pay. A joke?
Disputed Casino Casino Sieger

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User name
We didn't get evidence from the casino to confirm their statement. We consider this complaint unresolved.
User name loyalty-level-2
"One of the AML guidelines is set in our ground rule we do not allow players to request payouts to bank accounts they are not connected to."
What are you talking about? This is ridiculous.
1) I gave you my bank information. I provided my statement and card. It is clearly my bank account.
2) If you sent a wire transfer to my name and the bank account was "not connected to me", the bank would not credit my account obviously because the name has to match.

There is no inconsistency whatsoever. I sent you multiple ID cards, bill, bank statement, neteller information and they are all mine.

You are simply not paying because I won.
User name
Hello,

There are a few reasons this player received a refund for his deposit which is in question and why we decided to close his account.
By nature or law, we must do all what is our power to prevent Money laundering. In the case of this player, we feel a high risk for ML due to a set of reasons.
For legal reasons, we can only mention a few here:
One of the AML guidelines is set in our ground rule we do not allow players to request payouts to bankaccounts they are not connected to. To prevent and follow up on AML guidelines, we always require as a part of our KYC process prove of the inserted banking details to be yours or legally connected. We do use IBAN and SWIFT confirmation tools for this as well. This player is from Mozambique. We have tried multiple times to verify his data. The legal department found inconsistansies in his KYC materials as well. All reasons added up lead to the fact the account is closed, and the deposit will be refunded shortly.
User name loyalty-level-2
I setn email to tell them I put my complaint here. I do not have any update as of now.

Casino Sieger Complaint Stats

Resolved 50 / 59
Avg. Amount $2,286
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Casino still didn't payout 3000 EUR since April

This is the second time I have filed this complaint.

After my first complaint 10 days ago about a payout of 5000Euro. On 02-04-24 I withdrawed 5000 Euro from the site Casino Sieger. After a few days, the payout was approved.

Then I was told that the payout would be done in installments. This was not the first time I had done a withdrawal on the site and I received all my withdrawals on my bank account but certainly not without any issues.

Every time I had done a withdrawal there was a lot of mailing and asking before I finally received my funds. Same case now.

10 days ago I received only 1 installment of 1000Euro. The strange thing is that the day after I filled in the complaint I finally received a second installment of 1000 Euro and a reply via email that there were issues with their payment department.

This is standard every time. In the beginning, they always declared that the payment was done by their payment department, and after many times asking and after I had to proof that I still not received it they then letting me now that there where issues and that they pay me out with weeks of delay.

So now after almost 2 months I still need to recieve 3 installments of 1000 Euro.

Now they even don't reply to my emails when I ask when these will be done.

How come a casino that receives 1000s and 1000s of euros/dollars a day is not able to pay out 5000 Euros properly?

Really hope you can help fix this problem.

Kristof

Status unsolved Unresolved
€3,000
Very long withdrawal time

For quite some time, withdrawals on Casino Sieger were not an issue but recently they have done complete 180 and it seems there's always some sort of a problem with withdrawals. Here and there, they were late, usually week or even 2, with sending the funds to my bank account but this time they have exceeded their previous withdrawal problems.

On 4th of June I have requested withdrawal of 150e. After seeing that my request was still pending after 48hours (which is their max cap for approval) I have contacted their live support. I have gotten the generic answer that relevant department is currently checking my request and things will be soon resolved. I gave them additional 48hours.

After what was then 96 hours where my withdrawal was still not approved I have contacted support again with question what is going on. I have gotten a pretty similar response that they had some issues with their payment provider and things are going through right now and I should have my funds credited within few days.

Few days go by, my withdrawal is still pending. I contact support and they give me an answer that they have some technical issues and there is a queue of withdrawals they have to sort through and mine will be very soon sorted out.

Then its 7 days and I give up and cancel my withdrawal based on trusting them they had technical issues and play with funds I have previously requested. I made even some additional wins and request a withdrawal again.

This time its been now 12 days of withdrawal being in pending state of action and live support gives me the same 3 generis answers every time. Relevant department is going through you withdrawal and it should be resolved soon.

This is now in total of 3 weeks of my withdrawal being in pending state of action. They do not response on my e-mail sent to support and quite frankly I don't see them resolving this issue.

Status solved Resolved
€200
Withdrawals not received and account blocked

Hello.

I've been playing on different Condor Gaming casinos for few months after I find these through AskGamblers website. I have multiple withdrawals which have been approved by them, but those have never reached my bank account.

The first missing withdrawal of 756€ was made 12/04/2023 and approved 14/04/2023 from Casino Sieger. The second withdrawal worth of 4534€ was made 21/04/2023.

Right after the second withdrawal I was asked for the Source of funds documents which I provided and they approved those on 25/04/2023.

02/05/2023 I received an email that the second withdrawal has been approved but splitted in 1000€ instalments. The first instalment was sent on that date, second instalment 11/05/2023 and the third 26/05/2023.

I've received none of those 4 payments.

I informed them of the missing money 10/05/2023 and provided them the bank statement they wanted on 11/05/2023 showing I haven't received the money. After this they confirmed the money haven't reached my bank account and told me they'd started their own investigation into the matter. On 20/05/2023 I contacted them asking them to solve the case ASAP as I had not heard anything after they told me they'd started the investigation and I stressed out how long this had already taken. They responded me 22/05/2023 telling me that I "can expect positive feedback very soon". On 26/05/2023 I asked them update for the case and told them, that I'll file a complaint if the stalling just continues. They answered me with generic nonsense and asked for patience assuring me that they are doing "everything in their power to reach a satisfactory solution".

Today 31/05/2023 I tried to log in to my gaming accounts and all the Condor Gaming sites have blocked me without any notice. This is why I am writing this now, because I have no faith on them anymore and I feel I need some assistance to get my money.

I also have withdrawals from Tournaverse and Rembrandt which are missing. I can add the details for these, if needed or do separate complaints.

I also have screenshots from all those withdrawals made. The total money missing being somewhere around 10 000€.

I hope you can help me out with this case.

Status solved Resolved