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I registered with Jetbull and lost approximately £4230.

I was going to continue to play on the casino, however, today when I came to log in I was alerted that my account was now blocked due to me self-excluding with other EveryMatrix casinos previously, which I understand.

However, my problem lies here, I believe the reason my details were flagged are because I submitted a withdrawal request and therefore sent in verification documents, I heard nothing on this verification other than when I came to log on, incidentally I had reversed this withdrawal request, but had I not, this withdrawal would have never been paid anyway.

As I understand, all my bets should be void I was technically self excluded the whole time, therefore if all bets are void, the deposits should be returned, as they were on this case with EveryMatrix .. http:/­/ww­w.a­skg­amb­ler­s.c­om/­cas­ino­-co­mpl­ain­ts/­cas­ino­-cr­uis­e-r­efu­ses­-to­-re­fun­d-d­eposits

I fail to see the difference between these two cases and believe that EveryMatrix have set a precedent with this case and the same should be followed through on my case.

It seems like the EveryMatrix policy of allowing you to register and deposit funds is simply a no lose money making exercise for them as they will not refund deposits and will also not payout winnings.

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Liam
Disputed Casino Jetbull Casino
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with the full version of the T&C in question that were valid and visible for UK players back in August 2015. 
Based on all the facts in regards of this complaint we could now confirm that Jetbull Casino acted in accordance with their own Terms and Conditions applicable for self-exclusion at the time player registered at the casino.

In case of a disagreement with our decision, we reccomend player to seek further assistance on this matter from the relevant regulatory body responsible for this particular casino brand.

The case is resolved and officially closed.

User name loyalty-level-2
Upon registering, i clicked Terms and Conditions to view them before registering. Version 1.9 (the above screenshot which i attached) was what was presented to me, this is what I read and agreed to.

I have never used a VPN in my life, and only ever logged in from the UK.

On the screenshot i provided, if i were logged in using a VPN on an iphone, which you can clearly see i'm using an iphone, there would be a VPN logo in the top left of the screen. As you can see, there isn't one.

Therefore, my deposits were withheld due a glitch in your system providing me with the incorrect T's and C's to read.

The only terms and conditions presented to me to view were version 1.9, therefore these terms and conditions only, should be honoured.
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Dear @Liamallen90,

The screenshot you have attached refer to the MGA/Curacao T&C, terms that do not apply to the UK players. Version 1.9. did not mention our Gambling Commission license and it was not applicable to you, since you fall under our UK license.

As per our back-office, you have accepted the UK T&Cs, not the MGA/Curacao ones (we have sent a screenshot to the Askgamblers Team). Nevertheless, T&C version 1.9. could only be visible if used by VPN. Therefore, since the registered country is UK, if you would have been logged in, the UK T&Cs would have been automatically displayed.

You registered on Jetbull on 16.08.2015, and as you can see in the screenshot below, the applicable version of T&C at that time was version 4.3., last updated on 11th August 2015, terms that contain the clause mentioned above.


Best regards,
Jetbull Team
User name loyalty-level-2
I don't believe that these terms and conditions are from version 1.9, please can you provide the full terms and conditions for version 1.9.

Jetbull Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 12 / 13
Avg. Amount $894
Avg. Complaint Duration 10 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

Jetbull Casino Complaints

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Delay and Misleading Withdraw Process
The reason I selected Jetbull Casino was because of the bank transfer withdraw option they offered . This is the method I use to withdraw funds if I am so lucky to win. I was fortunate and won $800 Canadian on April 25th . I requested to withdraw those winnings at that time and now they are saying that they do not offer the bank transfer option to Canadians. The reason they claim is because of the “closed loop policy” which is a part of the UK Gaming Commission which Jetbull Casino is licensed under.

Actually Jetbull Casino is Licensed under both the UK Gaming Commission which has the policy closed loop policy, and the Malta Gaming Authority which does not have this policy. The “closed loop policy” states how a customer deposits funds into their Jetbull account is the way they have to withdraw them. The Malta Gaming Authority does not have this policy in place which means a casino and customer can withdraw funds through various process. It seems Jetbull Casino is choosing what license to use or why else would they have two license. So now JetBull Casinos could potentially switch between the two licenses and delay or even deny a customers of their winnings.
I deposited funds into my JetBull account through my Visa debit, and they do not accept a reversal or a deposit back onto the debit card from casinos. I know this and this the reason I look for casinos that offer “bank transfers” as an option.

On their website as well as a majority of the casino review websites states that the bank transfer process is available to Canadian players. The choice of withdrawing funds is not disclosed until you go to withdraw and then it is too late since you already deposited and playing.
Now they are saying the only option available to me is to use a certain e-wallet which I don’t have an account as I have closed it for reasons.

I have sent email to their head office, EveryMatrix NV Casinos and their money management company Gammatrix Business Unit a recommendation that came through one of my many chat conversation. I received an email saying that they have created a “ticket “and nothing since it has been a good week now. Nice public relations!

So, it has been over two weeks now and it has been a very poor experience with this Jetbull Casino in regards to withdrawing funds and their communications department...

“I understand your frustration, but....."

Why is this an issue so often? You would think the licensing bodies would tighten up on these types of misleading practices...

Now I’m rambling...
Status solved Resolved
$800
Unfairly confiscated legitimate winnings upon migrating my account from another Every Matrix casino
On 7th June I signed up to Favour it casino - part of the EveryMatrix Group and a sister site of Jetbull. Before I was allowed to make my first deposit I had to verify my account. On 8th of June I was allowed to make my first deposit of £150 and claim a 200% bonus. With this bonus I was delighted to win £7797.80. Unfortunately when I logged in to play with my balance on 10th of June I was unable to use any of the games and soon after I received an email saying that Favour it was to cease trading immediately. My balance was to be migrated to Jetbull (which I had never even heard of) and quelle surprise - any bonus winnings which had not been fully wagered would be cancelled. Quite clearly this is the definition of a rogue casino operator. Unfortunately it is very difficult to bring this company to justice. Favouor it no longer respond to any correspondence as they have ceased to trade, and Jetbull are claiming that they have nothing to do with it (despite the fact that they are where my money now is) and tell me to email favour it again. I have emailed UKGC who were the regulator for Favour it but they say they are not the Alternative Dispute Regulator for Favour it and I need to contact eCogra to handle an individual dispute. eCogra say they are no longer the ADR for Favour it as they no longer exist and their licence with UKGC is 'inactive' - does this simply mean that they can close down and instantly no longer have to answer to any kind of regulatory body? I am fed up of being sent round in circles and cant believe it is this easy for a casino to close down and completely dissappear. Quite clearly Jetbull/EveryMatrix need to step up and take responsibility.
Status solved Resolved