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By Alex S.
10 years ago
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I am a new customer and have registered on December 31st, 2015. On the same day I deposited £50. I have also sent them all requested documentation to prove my age and address.

During an online chat with a customer representative (January 3rd, 2016) I was informed that my account is closed permanently and my balance will not be returned. Please note that I never got the chance to play on this website or place any bets. No reason was offered for the account closure so I don't know why they reached this decision.

I believe 138.com has reached a wrong decision in this case and additionally, they have failed to provide me with any answer regarding my complaint. They ignored all my telephone and email queries and have failed to provide a copy of our communication and their official decision.

I have already raised an official complaint with Isle of Man gambling commission but they were unable to help any further.

The ticket (reference) number of my email to 138.com is 90105.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with complete and detailed information regarding this case on behalf 138.com management. We can now confirm that player breached terms: #7.2, 7.9, 17.2

7.2 You warrant that all information supplied when registering and completing the Membership Application is accurate, true and complete, including your name on the Membership Application, sources of funds (including the relevant payment details, bank accounts and card numbers) and address. Checks for fictitious registration details will be undertaken at the point of registration and when withdrawals are made and these checks will be undertaken using in house methods and third party specialist fraud prevention agencies.

7.9 We reserve the right to confirm your name and address by post or otherwise. We may, at our discretion, undertake additional security checks for any information that you provide. By agreeing to these Terms and Conditions, you allow us to access, use, process and store the results of any identification verification or checks.

17.2 In addition to other rights available under these Terms and Conditions, we reserve the right, in our sole discretion to:- (i) void any winnings (including Legitimate Winnings); (ii) suspend or terminate Your Account; (iii) terminate these Terms and Conditions with you; and/or (iv) suspend the provision of the Services to you and/or (v) seize all of the funds in your Player Account and to reverse any withdrawals that may be pending in the event that we reasonably determine that:-
(d) you provide incorrect or misleading registration information;

Based on the above we can confirm that 138.com acted as per their own terms and conditions in this particular situation and therefore player's claim is considered as invalid. In light of this our decision is to reject player complaint.

In case of a disagreement with our decision, we recommend player to seek further assistance on this matter from the relevant licensing authority responsible for this particular casino brand.
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Dear @fb_10­153­796­572­151067,

We remove all attachments because they contains your sensitive and personal information.
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I have already escalated this issue with the governing body (Isle of Man Gambling commission) which has advised that they are not able to help in this case.

I have read all your terms and conditions, first of all you clearly state that in case you decide to terminate a player's account you have to give a one month's notice in writing. Not only I haven't received a notice of termination but also you failed to provide me the exact reason of termination.

Since I have no clue why you have reached this decision, I think it is possibly associated with me moving home when I subscribed to your website. I think that I have accidentally registered my old address details and then sent you a document with my new address details. Please be advised that I have now attached ALL necessary documentation to prove BOTH my old and new house address. I have already attached documents to prove my age. If this is the issue, I honestly believe you have no right to confiscate player's funds for a simple error. If you have terminated my account for other reasons, unknown to me, please let me know of the reason and I will send you further documents.

I can only assure you that if the matter is not solved with these documents my next step is to complain to the office of fair trading in Isle of Man. I will also escalate this by opening a claim with the Isle of Man small claims court but I will await your response.

Hopefully the matter can be solved in a friendly way.

Thanks
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@ fb_10153796572151067

138.com is bound by terms and conditions, thus we reserve the right to take necessary, reasonable and appropriate measures at any circumstances based on our procedure. (See Category: OPENING YOUR ACCOUNT & TERMINATING, CLOSING AND SUSPENDING SERVCIES - https:­//g­lob­al.1­38.co­m/e­n-g­b/i­nfo­/terms )

As previously advised, we would be glad to accommodate further communications with any governing body - should there be a need to discuss this concern.

138.com Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 9 / 10
Avg. Amount $8,914
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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I made a withdrawal 9 days ago and a day or two later totalling just over £300.00. It states in their terms and conditions: Please note that all withdrawal requests in respect of winnings accrued and/ or received through Poker available on the website will be subject to a 24 (Twenty Four) hour processing period from the time we receive Your withdrawal request. and: Generally, using Credit/Debit Card, Neteller or Skrill(moneybookers) takes 24 up to 72 hours pending period. I have spoken to them numerous times on live chat and each time they have either not been able to get hold of the relevant department or will pass it on as an urgent request and will email me back with an update. I have received zero emails from them and nine days later the withdrawals are still awaiting processing. I enquired about possibly cancelling one of the withdrawals and returning the funds to my account to see if it was possible, however they stated, moments after telling me the withdrawals haven't yet been processed, that they could not do this even though it states in the terms and conditions: You can cancel your withdrawal request and have the funds returned to your 138.com account within the processing period. I can't reverse any of the withdrawals even though they haven't yet been processed, when I made the request to withdraw more than 9 days ago. They tell me they will email me with updates and never do, I now just want both withdrawals to be processed into my bank but feel I am constantly being fobbed off.
Status solved Resolved
£300
Stalling my payment
Hello, I'm submitting as a complaint as 138.com have failed to pay out my withdrawal request of £3000 and have subsequently failed to provide any further information. My withdrawal request was processed on 23rd April and in accordance with their processing times I should have received my payout no later than 29th April. As of 2nd May the money hasn't reached me. After 3 days I contacted them for an update to ensure the payment was processed successfully and they assured me this had been done. On 29th April I contacted the company as I still hadn't received my withdrawals. I had visited the bank and obtained a copy of my statement and a letter from my bank manager to say they had checked all of the branch's holding accounts in case the money had been sent their in error. I sent this information to the company and they promised me an update within 24 hours. I returned on 30th April and was told there was no update and told to wait another 24 hours. I expressed concern as I had been told originally it would only take 24 hours to get an update. I waited and came back on 1st and 2nd May and they have not provided any information. The customer services team claim they are only capable of communicating via e-mail to their security team who manage payments etc and as such, they can't get any update until they respond. At what point though does this dynamic cease to work? They claim the company is powerless to help me as only a certain team can assist, but they aren't responding to e-mails. I have sent several e-mail and no one has had the courtest of offering me any information. I feel at a dead-end. The company have effectively said to wait until they are ready to help me, but so far I have no assurances they have even sent the payments. I asked for further details about their bank and the payment method used, so I could check this with my own bank, but they are refusing to provide any details of their payment procedure. If the company provided me an exact date, even a week from now, I would accept that, but I'm not happy to just to be told to wait indefinitely. If the money hasn't arrived within the timeframes indicated, surely something has gone wrong? I just want the money to be returned and accurate information on when to expect this.
Status rejected Rejected
£3,000