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Confiscated winnings on false grounds


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By royo47
10 years ago
Parklane confiscated my winnings referring to their general T&C's saying that maximum allowed bet size on a single bet is 30% of the deposited amount. However, the T&C's for the specific bonus I used states that the maximum bet on a single bet is 30% of the bonus amount. In addition, the general T&C's of the casino states under section 14.2 that "Any specific additional terms and conditions for participation in any such competitions, promotions or similar and related activities will be specified on the relevant part of the Internet Site from time to time (“Bonus Terms & Conditions”), or provided to you by email. By entering or participating in the relevant competitions, promotions or similar and related activities, you agree to be bound by those Terms of Participation in addition to the General T&Cs. In the event of any conflict or inconsistency, the Terms of Participation will prevail. We specifically retain the right, at any time and without notice, to remove, alter or add competitions, promotions or similar and related activities on the Internet Site without responsibility towards the Player." Hence, it is clear that it is the T&C's for the specific bonus that applies. I turned over more than 9,000 euro and made a total of 6 bets for 20 euro which was 40 % of the deposited amount BUT only 20% of the bonus amount. This means that the confiscation of my winnings has no ground. In addition Parklane does not in any way even try to explain their decision or why they breach their own terms. I have reported them to their licensing authority and since the case is solid I expect that their license will be revoked but I want to warn other of their rogue behaviour.
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We have received evidences clearly showing that player indeed breached the so called "30% bet rule" of the Parklane Casino Terms&Conditions.
15.2. We reserve the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings and bonuses for irregular play.
"Irregular play" includes, inter alia:
Placing total bets equal to or greater than 30% of the value of the deposit currently in play.
Using Martingale, double-up and similar systems and strategies.
In cases where a bonus was received, prior to the wager requirements for the bonus having been met, “Irregular play” additionally includes:
Placing total bets equal to or greater than 30% of the value of the bonus credited to the player account.
Even money bets on Roulette and other relevant games
“Total bets” is defined as the sum of individual bets (lines, chips, hands, etc.) within a round, i.e., the total bet amount when clicking the “spin” or “play” or equivalent button.

Whether having such rule is fair or not is not subject of this complaint and that is why we consider this case as closed and resolved. We recommend to the casino to reconsider to write this rule more clearly so players can understand exactly what this aforementioned rule state regarding maximum betting limit.

Also like to remind player that he could seek further assistance from licence authority of Parklane casino in regards of this issue.
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No update. Parklane just keep ignoring me.
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Dear @royo47,

Any update regarding your complaint? Thank you.
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no you don't. you just send me endless references to the wrong paragraph and refuse to look into what i am telling you.

Parklane Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 9 / 11
Avg. Amount $4,895
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Payment is declined due to unjustified violation of the rules
Sorry about my english. I made a € 25 deposit orders and receive 200% bonus on the day 13/2. I always bet on the lowest level or a little higher, never exceed 2euro. I still keep betting history (I can not send txt file for you? only images) Then I play and win up to 500euro (balance 450 + bonus 50). I've completed the wagering requirement, and make a withdrawal order. And bonus deleted ?? No problem, I withdraw 450 euros, and wait a long time without any reaction of Parkland. After much waiting, I cancel the order withdrawals 450Euro, and create another 400 Euro withdrawal order. After asking the support again, I send all the information (ID, Bill, Neteller ..) they require to [email protected] I received an email message: "As part of our regular withdrawal review process, we have seen that the terms and conditions of the bonus you received were not met. The Bonus Terms and Conditions prohibit placing single bets equal to or greater than 30% from the value of the Bonus credited to the player account, prior to the wager requirement for that Bonus having been met. (You may review the Bonus Terms and Conditions by clicking the "Bonus Terms & Conditions" link at the bottom of our site.) We have therefore cancelled your withdrawal request and removed the winnings. " I urge them to return to me immediately 375euro. and done quickly about my neteller account. I thought that would never be able to do anything, until I see Askgamblers, thank you very much!
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Status solved Resolved
€1,000
Unfairly holding money
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Status solved Resolved
£1,100
Trying to steal legitimate winnings and withdrawal due to bogus 'terms violation'
I registered an account with park Lane casino last week. It was referred to me from acount manager David from Osiris casinos. He was very polite with me and has been very helpful with me even until now with this issue.He said to me it has better wagering requirements. I am a very experienced player on online casinos and because I like using bonuses on my deposits I am very carefull with the terms for wagering the bonus I get. So when I open an account with park Lane I deposit 55 euro and recieve 200% bonus. The totall of 165 which I have to wager ×33 times. I play only slots and make sure not to bet over 30% of my deposit as said on the terms of the casino. I do suprisining well for a first deposit making sure very often from support to know how much I must wager. In the end I have won around 2200 without including the bonus they gave me. Sadly I could withdraw only 10 times my deposit which is 550 dollars!!! I must say that the casino claims trhough David that I could withdraw all the amount if I would have deposited over 200 dollars. I can't withdraw through my deposit method of master card so I make 1 more deposit of 20 through neteller in order to be able to withdraw the 550. I make sure before I deposit the 20 euro to talk to support in order not to receive an other bonus. When this is done and the casino automatically take our the first bonuses of my deposit I received of 110 dollars I proceed with the withdraw request of 550. Now here is the mistake the casino makes. I have talked with David the same day who is the account manager on the 23 of June late in the afternoon and he he confirms with me that I can withdraw only 550 euro. I ask him what would I so with the rest he tells me play it for fun. He tells me there are no restrictions on this and anyway there should not be as it's like fun money. The support on this casino also could not tell me for clear how much I can withdraw adam who was very friendly told me I could withdraw all the money minus bonus as long as I met the wagering requirements. I told him that David account manager told me I could withdraw only 550 and it would be up to the casino finance management if I could withdraw more but they would accept only the 550 as they are very strict with the terms. So on the 23rd late evening right after I make the deposit of 20 euro I proceed with the request withdraw of 550. After I do this I am left witharound 1700 euro including the 20 I deposited. From the moment I have requested the withdrawal and from the moment I am told that the rest of the money I CAN'T WITHDRAW I play the money for fun on slots and live roullete and black jack. The betting is high because very simply 8 have already requested the withdraw of the 550 euro I won so clearly I am violating no terms. I receive an email from the casino on the 27 of June saying that my withdraw request is declined due to violation of the terms and conditions!!!!!!!! They just put in the 75 euro of my 2 deposits and I have already requester a withdraw of my deposit funds. They are still claiming that I am wrong. I am not wrong I completed the wagering made bets on dlots only from 5 dolls and lower it's illegal to take away my winnings as I requested FIRST the withdraw and and ONLY after that I continued playing so where the he'll is the violation. I am absolutely furious I have several accounts on online casinos and never ever had problems withdrawin money because I always respect the terms. Do you know that I cashed out the computer points of 10 euro won 320 only to be told that I an withdraw only 10 times the cash points that means 100 euro. I don't see anything on that on terms!!!!!! Their excuse on that is only if the money of comps points and deposit is over 200 euro can you withdraw ALL WINNINGS!+!+!!!!!!!!!!. This all is illegal and I demand justice!!!!!! I deserve my winnings which have been stolen. Kinly fix this issue and I request ask gamblers help out on this matter. By the way unfortunately I see that the casino is blacklisted so this is probably why they are not paying out my winnings although the reason is the software gaming. Kind regards. Stavros Patrianakos
Status solved Resolved
€475
Taking too long to self exclude and process payment
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Status solved Resolved
£1,500
Don't want to pay out
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Status solved Resolved
€490