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Hello!
I am writing to you because of a complaint I have with the Bethard Group. Let me take it from the start and describe everything in detail:
*On 2016-04-06 I sent an email to 2 betting companies within the Bethard group, Bethard and Oddsautomaten, informing them of my huge gambling addiction and that I therefore wanted my account at their websites to be closed forever without any chance of ever re-opening it in the future.

*Both replied the same day 2016-04-06 acknowledging my emails. Oddsautomaten said that my account was now permanently closed and that they would never let me bet with them again in the future as you can see in the attached documents. Oddsautomaten even wrote “Thank you for contacting Sverigekronan and sharing this information. We take gambling related issues very seriously and I want to start with confirming that your account now is closed according to your request. Your account has been closed permanently, which means that you do not have the possibility of activating it again in the future.” Notice that they actually wrote Sverigekronan in their email! For me that is case closed.
Bethard wrote that they couldn’t find my account but as soon as they found it, they would closed it permanently. However both were aware of my huge gambling problem and that I wished never to bet with them again.

*On 2016-06-21 I opened an account at Sverigekronan, without knowing they were in any way related to Bethard and Oddsautomaten, and made my first deposit. I then uploaded my documents to verify my identity through their website. They passed the verification process and allowed me to make several deposits on four separate days between 2016-06-21 to 2016-07-10. They did this while being aware of my gambling addiction through the emails I had sent to Oddsautomaten and Bethard and considering the response I received they cannot claim that they weren’t aware. After I made my final deposit and lost everything I closed my account with them the very same day on 2016-07-10. It went 19 days from me opening the account until I closed it myself without them intervening in any way to stop me from depositing and losing all of my money. Instead they verified my identity and allowed me to deposit more and more money!

*On 2016-10-12 I noticed on my Skrill account that the name on the deposits I had made to Sverigekronan was under the name “Bethard Group”. When I checked my emails I had in fact sent the very same email to 2 companies within the Bethard group as I’ve wrote earlier. I then tried communicating with them without any success as you can see in an attached document. They wrote that they asked me to verify my information and that I never replied after that. However, the fact is that hey wrote to me from Oddsau­tom­ate­n/S­ver­ige­kronan saying that my account at Sverigekronan was permanently closed without any chance activating it again.
Surely my first email 2016-04-06 asking them to close my account along with their response from Oddsau­tom­ate­n/S­ver­ige­kronan is enough to conclude that they need to return all of my money?

Final thoughts: From now on I will be fully committed to retrieving every single penny that I deposited to Sverigekronan because I have a bulletproof case in my eyes. How could they while confirming that my account is closed and will never be re-opened later allow me to open an account at Sverigekronan, verify my identity and then allow my account at Sverigekronan to be active for 19 days until I closed the account myself?

Please let me know if you need anything else but so far I have attached:
*Email to Oddsautomaten and their response. I have also attached a translation.
*Email to Bethard and their response. I have also attached a translation.
*Deposits from my Skrill account to their Sverig­ekr­ona­n/B­ethard Group.
*Email to Sverigekronan with my complaint and their response.
I have used the same name, email address and phone number on all the accounts.
Please do not publish the screenshots on the complaint thread since these contain some personal information.

I really hope that with your help we can solve this because surely I am in the right. Thank you!
Disputed Casino Sverige Kronan Casino
Reason Other
Amount kr359365

Discussion

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Unfort­una­tel­y, ­Sverige Kronan Casino failed to provide the requested information and details in response to the post left by AskGamblers Complaints Team on May 9th. Therefore, we have no other choice but to consider the case as Unresolved and advise player to raise official dispute again with both former and current regulatory bodies of Sverige Kronan Casino. 


Case closed. 

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Dear Losche, Askgamblers,

As have been mentioned earlier, there is one Curacao license per website which has been valid since the website started. Due to it being different licenses no information is transferred between them.

We will not be able to go into detail of the requirements that a Curacao license requires but as previously written, this case was raised to Curacao complaints department back in 2016. It is important to note the difference of the set up between licenses. One license per website in regard to Curacao and one license for a company for an MGA/UKGC license that can hold several websites.

Oddsautomaten account opened 2016-04-06, closed 10 minutes later 0 deposits.
Sverigekronan account opened 2016-06-21, closed 2017-07-10, 10 deposits on total amount 339,695 SEK.

We do not wish to go into detail on a public forum with more account information and therefore must refer to the summary above.

If someone closes their account for gambling problems we now have the technical safeguards in place to stop them from playing with us again and we are constantly working on being proactive and provide a safe gambling environment. Back then as we were under Curacao it was only on that specific license and we will therefore not be able to repay the deposited funds from 2016. There is no regulatory requirement to block across licenses. If the Curacao logo in the footer is pressed it is also clearly visible that there is only one website connected to that license.

In case Losche wants to take this case up with Curacao complaints department again he may do so, and we will then follow up on that discussion once again.

We do not wish for anyone with a gambling addiction to play with us or any other casino but at the same time we can not go back in time and change a decision that was based on the requirements we had set up in front of us at that point in time.
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Hi,

Sorry for the delay in this matter. We´re currently waiting for the full curacao guidelines in order to give you all info needed.

Thanks,
SverigeKronan
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This complaint has been reopened as per submitter's request and AskGamblers Complaints Team would like to give it one more try and help both parties involved into the dispute reaching to a satisfactory resolution.

Sverige Kronan Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 1 / 2
Avg. Amount $20,647
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Declined payment due to ''bonus abuse''
COMPLAINT - SVERIGE KRONAN CASINO I writing this complaint because I feel I have been wrongly accused of absusing the casinos bonuses/free spins and therefore been declined a payment of winnings 13 700 SEK. Here are some background info: I think I started playing at online casinos and videoslots regulary for about 2 years ago. I have opened many accounts on different casinos, but I have NEVER opened more than 1 account at one casino. I love online casinos and I always check out new and old ones, it´s a jungle out there, more casinos than I can count and I am a member with many but have found my favourite casinos and obviously they get most of my time and deposits even though I play at others but much more seldom. I am (was) a registered member at Sverige Casino, Sverige Kronan, Bethard and other casinos which all are in the same company, as we in Sweden call sister casinos. Maybe you have that expression to in english. Almost all casinos (including the listed casinos above) have some bonus offer and welcome offers regarding free spins or matching deposits. Regarding the casinos I mentioned offered free spins when sign up. Of course I used my free spins when I first open the account to try out and look around the casino. One of those casinos, Sverige Casino, I have made some deposits to, but I never managed to win so I could make a withdrawal. I have never deposit money at Sverige Kronan. I often get offers (to my e-mail) from among others, Sverige Casino and Sverige Kronan regarding free spins and so on. Ok, so now to the issue with Sverige Kronan. I received an offer to my e-mail yesterday due to their update of their webpage, that if I change my password you will receive some free spins. So I did and received 10 free spins and I win about 80 SEK, the highest I won from free spins at these casinos within the same company. They have a wagering requirement of x 40 and I manage to do so. I was overjoyed . I had somewhere between 13 000 - 14 000 SEK. I then made my first deposit of 300 KR which I played trough at least 1 time according to their rules and won some more. I decided then to make a withdrawal of the amazing sum: 13 700 SEK. I was so very happy so I can´t describe the feeling, this money would help me a lot due to personal matters. I got confirmation that my withdrawal was a success. After a while I checked my pending withdrawal, but the sum was now back on my players account. I tried to make a new one and confirmation with success appeared. I e-mailed support and wondered why and she said that they first has to get documents to verify my account. So I did and I could read at my account that my documents had been approved. After that I checked pending withdrawal and it said -0kr. I started the chat on their webpage and asked about the problem and he said that "they" are looking in to that right now and should be fixed shortly. I also asked if I could expect my money on my personal account shortly as well with a smiley, and he answered that they would be. Never the less, shortly after I received an e-mail from Sverige Kronan that the withdrawal has been cancelled, the money are confiscated and they have closes ALL my accounts within the same company. The argument I get, with a referral to a paragraph in their terms and conditions, is that I have opened accounts within the same concern/company to benefit and abuse bonuses and free spins. How can they claim that I opened accounts to abuse their bonus system. Any player should have the right to open how many accounts you´d like. To try out and see if I like the casino. These casinos were not among my favourites even from the beginning but I still have made some deposits at their sister casino Sverige Casino just to try it out some more. I just think this is so sad that they can do this, but can they really? Do they have the right? If it was regarding 500 kr I dont think I had the energy to pull this strings. But these money are a fortune for me, 13 700 SEK, and would be life chancing for me. I also deposit 300 SEK which was a requirement to be able to make a withdrawal. (I also asked for the 300 SEK back, but I have not seen them yet) But I still claim that I have done nothing wrong. They have sent me personally mails with offers all the time. If they have this loophole to just accuse for bonus abuse which isn´t the case, they shouldn´t ever bother to send more personal offers with free spins. And I honestly think that they should forbid a player to open an account at a sister casino with this rule. It should not be allowed, or a pop up where it says if you have more than one account at our sister casinos, and don´t make regularly deposits we will not be paying out any winnings from your winnings from free spins. OR don´t send out offers with free spins if I´m not eligible to make withdrawals from the winnings. I will try to paste in the mail correspondence I have had with Sverige Kronan. I hope you have a dictionary ;) or maybe a swedish speaking person working there ;) Or I will try to attach screenshots of the communication. I hope I manage to do one of these things. I would be so happy if you can help me with this, I just think this is so wrong. Best regards Josefine
Status solved Resolved