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Pamper Casino - No response after Withdraw Request for $2925.36


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By rypl44
11 years ago
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Good Afternoon AskGamblers community, Pamper Casino representatives, and reviewers!

I have been playing with Pamper Casino for a while now, with deposit history dating back to February of this year. In total, I have deposited over $2500 to Pamper alone, not including Operia's other casinos of BetDNA, Moneystorm, and AC (all of which I've also deposited to.)

I have made support requests in the past to Operia -- most of which were all out ignored UNLESS it had to do with deposit issues. I have also found that at times, their LiveChat support staff can be downright rude (Erick R., talking to you).

When I most recently attempted to make a Withdrawal request via their support interface, I was getting Nginx Server errors to try and attach my documents as proof. I sought help from LiveChat to submit the request. Erick's response, "Works fine for me." Then it turned into, "submit the request, and then add more correspondence to the ticket to attach the docs after ticket already created." Still had problems. Asked if Erick R. could find my problem or if my attachments were too large. His response? "I have no idea."

At any rate, I ended up emailing to accoun­tin­g@p­amp­erc­asi­no.com my attachment, which eventually updated my withdrawal request because of the ticket # being in the subject line of the email message.

The ticket withdrawal request is Ticket # RJF-709-59409.

With this withdrawal, I deposited $100, claiming coupon 2825GAMINATOR. I met the (somewhat ridiculous) bonus playthrough requirements of well over $200,000. The bonus balance transferred to my real money balance, turning into $2925.36 ($2825 + $100 original deposit, plus $0.36 cents from whenever I last played real money)

I promptly submitted my withdrawal request, as well as thorough documentation combined in one PDF (a bank account statement, TWO government-issued photo ID's (Driver's License and another, BOTH debit-cards used for deposits, the only ones used with Pamper, front and back). I have attached with this request screenshots of both my current balance and the initial deposit.

I have thoroughly read through all TOS and Withdrawal procedures, and have never held duplicate accounts with any online casino. So I believe I am 100% in the right on this one..

I have yet to garnish a reply. The Casino supposedly prides themselves in customer service, withdrawal requests, and "1-3 business day responses to requests", yet I have waited to hear for a reply of any kind. Not even a simple, "your request has been received and we are reviewing your withdrawal ticket."

By the way, in one screenshot, you can even see my Withdrawal request from September 06, 2014. I ended up playing through that balance, but still requested that my documents be verified for future expedition of withdrawals. I received no response or follow up, yet the ticket was marked as, "resolved". That would have really been beneficial for this support request, but I have no idea where things are at.

I am really hoping to have success with Operia gaming, as they don't necessarily have the best reputation in the community for withdrawals. It would be nice to give that a boost -- especially because all of their gaming software is incredibly fun and exciting. I am a web developer/designer and marketing professional, and am hoping to blog about how pleasant the gaming software is, as well as the withdrawal process. I have been on the phone with some reps before, and LiveChat numerous times -- nine times out of ten, they're all incredibly friendly and well-spoken, with the exception of a few. I come to AskGamblers to hopefully expedite the process of my withdraw for $2925.36.

Thank you, and with all respect,
Ryan
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Disputed Casino Pamper Casino
Amount $2925

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AskGamblers Complaints Team reached to the conclusion that player's claim could be no longer considered as valid upon evidence provided by Pamper Casino management. While we could understand player's frustration and disappointment of being left to wait for hours or days from the aforementioned casino brand before they review and verify the account, we would like to remind player that each and every online casino has the exclusive right to determine and apply its own verification policy and procedures depending on the requirements set within their licensing agreement. Unfortunately, AskGamblers Complaints Team is not able to influence such verification policy in any way. Moreover, it is up to you to refrain from playing until the verification procedure is over and you could request a withdrawal. Once you played and lost your money it means there isn’t a valid subject to claim for and therefore this complaint is being rejected.

In case of a disagreement with our decision, we encourage player to seek further assistance from the relevant licensing authority directly.

The case is now officially closed.
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Dear all, 

Kindly notice this complaint is being reopened following the declared willingness on behalf of Pamper Casino management to do everything within their powers in resolving their outstanding AGCCS cases. AskGamblers Complaints Team will gladly assist by giving any of these old cases an additional chance for a successful resolution.

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I received an initial reply. Pamper seems to wait until the third day of a response (in my case, AFTER!) in order to reply. Despite having attached the documentation to the initial support request and having it blatantly available, I was told to "please submit documentation" before they could review my withdraw.

I have two problems with this:
1.) I waited 3 days to be told to attach what was already available, after it states before submitting a withdraw request that, if you would like to expedite your withdraw, you should attach the information to the initial ticket. It's safe to assume that whoever the accounting rep was failed to properly review or look for attachments in my request for 3 days.

2.) They send a link to a form for credit-card authorization, which is found linked no where on their site, or demanded as a requirement on the withdraw page. This results in an even longer delay. In case anyone who is going to withdraw from Pamper should see this, here is a direct link to the authorization form:
http:/­/ww­w.p­amp­erc­asi­no.c­om­/li­mit­-in­cre­ase.htm

The reply I garnished from Pamper is in an image attachment, followed by me already submitting my documentation at an earlier date/time.
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Pamper Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 67 / 86
Avg. Amount $746
Avg. Complaint Duration 25 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

Pamper Casino Complaints

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Still didn't process payment after more than 14 months!
Hello, together, sorry first for my english. Now I wait since over 14 months for the payment of my real amount from $ 3,190.71. I had opened the first ticket in the 9/22/2015 #YQG-876-48484. All desired document and conditions were fulfilled. I have communicated several times and about several months with the live chat and have asked for the reasons of the payment delay. Also by email I have written up the accountancy and the management several times. The answer was always with too much work and I should give myself no troubles. see here: Jen- P Support Agent Good Jen- P Hello B. How may I help you? B. hello have you news for me? Jen- P no , no yet B. why? can you tell the problem? Jen- P I don't have access there is not a problems a just delays we have a lot of customer with the issue delays we have to wait B. 4:18 pm sorry, i'm waiting soo loong 4:19 pmthis is no reasen Jen- P i know they are working on your request ' you need to wait B. how long?聽Read Jen- P I don't know soon date 29.07.2016 Then in the 6/8/2016 the nice Mrs. Angel of the live chat informed me after consultation with the accountancy Mr. Steve Woods that I get the payment that very same day, so in the 6/8/2016. Shortly after Mr. Steve Woods writes an email to me: Hello, I am looking into your account and want to make sure that we get you the best service on any payout you might want. I know there is some confusion in terms of taking a bonus and then cancelling it. I want to make sure you get the maximum amount of payout possible. Please allow me a little more time to get your account straightened out. In the mean time I need you to send in a copy of your ID and a copy of a utility bill. The process with the verification was concluded at least one year before. And I had transmitted all documents several times. After I contacted pressure on the Pamper casino raised and other several times the Support, the Pamper management in the 10/21/2016 wrote an email. In it the Manangemt refuses the payment with the grounds that I have taken up a bonus. However, this is right generally. I have not claimed a bonus at no time. Only one other excuse is to be refused around the payment, how the whole time. Moreover, one can infer from the Hardcopy that it concerns real amount and a bonus was not taken up. The new management of Pamper Casino must prove that it is serious and my amount pay.
Status unsolved Unresolved
$3,190
Delayed payment for over 10 weeks
Ticket was first submitted in request of payment on September 5th for $650, I received Immediate automated reply. This is my first withdraw from Pamper, as such I submitted the requested documents with my ticket. Their conditions suggested a wait of 10-14 days for verification. On the 23rd September I requested an update. On the 24th September I received first a response telling me my ticket was being reviewed, then on the same day another message to tell me that they were ready to process payment and I could choose between money gram or western union, I would receive payment in $300 amounts each with a $50 fee. (my request was to be payed by neteller, one of the available options when I filled out my ticket). On the same day (24/9) I replied that I would prefer neteller, but if it was unavailable I would accept western union, and gave my bank details to process the payment(s). On the 6th of October I received a message telling me Neteller would be unavailable for about 2 weeks, and offering me withdrawal with upaywallet. On the 8th of October I replied that I did not want to open an account with Upaycard, and that at this stage I would wait the approximately 2 weeks for Neteller (I realise this may have been a mistake) On the 28th of October I requested an update Having not had a response on the 8th of November I requested an update via email On the 8th of November I received an exact copy of the message received more than one month ago (6/10) neteller will be available in about 2 weeks etc.. On the 9th of November I replied that the copied message has not reassured me, and informed them that I would allow one week to make me feel confident that they would be resolving my case, at that time I would seek help to recover my funds. 18th November, no response, complaint made with Askgamblers At this stage I believe that I have been very patient and polite with all my correspondence, but now after 10 weeks I have very little confidence that my case will be resolved without help. Geoff.
Status solved Resolved
$650
Delayed Payment and Lack of Customer Service
Hello, according to the Pamper FAQ’s “Due to verification process for your security and ours, first time withdrawal request can take up to 10-14 business days to be processed. For any further withdrawals, they are usually processed within 24 – 72.” Also, on the Pamper site, “Deposits and Withdrawals” page the banking methods are listed as follows: Visa/Mastercard (Instant), entropay (Instant) and Money Transfer (0-3 days). I made Steve Wood(s) aware of this and he said that it was for deposits only and that he would have the site updated (I have an email from him). I decided to try Pamper Casino. I used a bonus and met the play through requirements. I contacted the Chat Line and was advised that I met all of the play through and that I could either continue wagering or since I was eligible, I could request a withdrawal. I did request a withdrawal on 4/17/16 (QPE-312-72226). I received an automated response, on the same date, confirming the receipt of my ticket. And was informed that one of the agents would get back with me as soon as possible. I was also notified in the same email that I could check on the status of that same ticket by contacting the following link: http://support.pampercasino.eu/Tickets/Ticket/View/QPE-312-72226. When I had selected that link, I received an error message that the link was not valid. I contacted the Live Chat line to make them aware of this. I had also completed all of the corresponding information from Pamper for eligibility of my withdrawal and received a response indicating the following: Your request has been received. We have received your request and will get back to you with further details shortly. You can login to the support center or check your mailbox for further updates. Overall, since 4/17/16 I have been going back and forth via Live Chat lines and emails with Pamper about receiving my Withdrawal. Also, I received an email from AC Casino providing me with a different Ticket ID while addressing my initial Withdrawal (LUL-322-45295). I received yet another Ticket ID from AC Casino (MGP-480-78668) regarding the same matter. Please note that I ONLY submitted 1 Ticket (QPE-312-72226). All of my correspondence since has been via the Live Chat line and emails. I asked why I was being given so many ticket numbers and no one could answer me. I have been dealing with someone named "Steve" who has been beyond RUDE and condescending to me. Also, Steve had replied to me in an email dated 5/13/16 - "There might be a delay in making a payment to you on the first round as we have a number of real depositing players who have priority when paying. You will receive payment, but only after depositing players are paid in the queue first." In a different email to me from Steve, one the same date 5/13/16, Steve replied, "As we have other clients already ahead of you in the queue, I would expect you would receive your first payment towards the end of next week. I will be in touch with you next week to let you know when the first payment is sent.".... Please note that it is 8 days later (5/21/16) and I have not heard back from Steve. I had also sent Steve an email yesterday (5/20/16) requesting an update and he has not replied to that either. I have gone onto the Live Chat line over a dozen times, to no avail. I have chatted with Jen- P, Victor S, Tiffany and Steve (just to name a few). No one seems to know anything and each (except for Steve) have promised to make their supervisor aware of my frustrations. I have also received email from a Steve Wood and also Steve Woods of Pamper Casino and I find this quite strange. I have copies of ALL of the Live Chats as well as ALL of the emails from Pamper, AC Casino and Steve. I have tried numerous times to reach out to them, to no avail. I have also contacted my attorney and was advised to make a formal complaint such as this in hopes of resolving the matter, to try and avoid contacting the United Kingdom Gambling Commission, etc. Can you please respond to me as promptly as possible? My initial quest was to try out Pamper Casino and if I enjoyed it, I had planned on making some deposits (as I have at several other Casinos). But now I am concerned that they do not care for their customers and have absolutely no empathy and extremely poor customer service. I have been waiting since 4/17/16 to receive my withdrawal. Lastly, this is one of the last emails from Steve (after he told me that after I am paid, I am no longer to play on the site): From: Steve Woods To: chrralph Sent: Fri, May 13, 2016 9:31 pm Subject: Re: Payout Request Look, I am not sure why you have added so many people to the email list. I am the only one who can help you. I am the boss so no need to send multiple emails to other departments. At no point did i mention affiliates.. an affiliate is what you came through to enjoy your free chip. Secondly, I will pay you when we have the space in our queues to pay you. I will not give you any kind of pay dates and your demands do not work on my end. We give free chips as a way for players to come try out our software. So I hope you have fun taking your non depositing accounts to any other place. I apologize for the long rant and will be more than happy to attach all of the emails and chats between Pamper Casino, AC Casino and Live Chats. Sincerely, Charlene
Status solved Resolved