Complaint #5 BetVoyager Casino

BetCruise Casino - Unfair Game(s)

By perifeertje

12 years ago

Message on forum

Hi there,

I tried my luck in the Betcruise Casino and deposited €36. Since they have a 'no zero roulette' I played this type of roulette. I started with €0.50 bets on all the numbers except the number 4. I started Autoplay. I did win a very small ammount but almost immediatley I lost because number 4 fell. Ok, this could be normal. I tried my luck again repeated the same bets. the same happened: I won a bit but very soon number 4 fell again.

Ok, this can happen. I betted. I had little money left (from the little winnings) and started betting with €0.10 (the same bets: all numbers except the 4). I won very little and almost immetiately number 4 fell again!! wauw...this is getting amazing...Number 4 falls 3 times in a row..

Ok...the last bet session...from what I have left I could bit €0.05. Same bets (all numbers except the 4). And guess what...number 4 falls again almost immediately! I lost all my money within 5-10 minutes. Number 4 came 4 times in a row!!! This is really impossible?!?!

All numbers fell no times, 1 time and little numbers 2 times. But number 4 fell 4 times almost in a row!?! Therefore I deem this game played at the Casino very unfair!

It is really amazing and impossible! It leaves me very dissapointed and unsatisfied.

regards,

Morris

Disputed Casino BetVoyager Casino

Reason Software fairness

Discussion

BetVoyager Casino

• Representative

12 years ago

Checking afterwards defeats the purpose. But if you have the numbers before then you can be 100% sure. When you started to feel strange about it you should have turned on and used our randomness control system, we have it there, easy to use for everyone. Additionally, it didn't happen in a row, it happened between a bunch of spins as you stated, so we stick by our side, and we remind everyone to use the tools we give you to be sure. We appreciate your feedback.

perifeertje

12 years ago

Dear Support,

Thank you for investigating this matter. Sorry for my late response I was not able te respons earlier. I still stick to my point. There's something wrong here.

- First of all you investigated the matter yourself, it is not investigated by an independant party. So you cannot guarantee the fairness of this.

- Second I cannot check the checksum of the squence which was played anymore (this is gone!). You might have such beuatifull system you mention but it's impossible for people to check afterwards. So it's hard for me to proof.

regards

Morris

BetVoyager Casino

• Representative

12 years ago

After carefully investigating the game session, no errors were found. If you still doubt the the falling of the number, please use the randomness and fairness control, which gives a 100% guarantee that all numbers are generated before the game, and do not change during the game. https://www.betvoyager.com/randomness/

perifeertje

12 years ago

Dear Support,

Thank you for your message and for reviewing the situation. My username is 'sjefke'. Please let me know the outcome of your review.Thank you in advance!

BetVoyager Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 12 / 26

Avg. Amount $6,686

Avg. Complaint Duration 4 days

Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Trying to make a withdrawal but nothing happens

Hi, I made 3 deposits each of 50 euro by visa debit card method. They took my deposits fine straight away no problem. My account is verified and mobile and email address verified also. I have won and have a balance of 663 euros that I want to withdraw back to my payment method. It says on the account to withdraw back to the card and to click on the icon for the visa method but when I do this nothing happens.

I have sent emails after emails but no one has got back to me. All I want is for the funds to be withdrawn to me.

If you can get in touch with them and ask them to do a manual withdrawal that would be helpful as I cannot get in touch with someone and I feel like it is all a scam!

Unresolved

€663

No refund as promised ignored messages

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Unresolved

£11

Delayed payment for 3 months and they stopped responding

Hello,

I won 6000 euros back on 16/6.

they requested I verify myself which I promptly sent over anything they asked for. two weeks later they start giving out partial payments over a couple months then late july early august everything stopped. ( they even made me switch payout methods a couple times with no luck).

I keep trying to reach them over in-site mailing service all I used to get was the automated response of " your requests are put in turn". but after 10/9 I haven't been getting any responses from them at all. with 3000 euros still pending.

I've tried multiple times to call their number with no response as well.

Unresolved

€3,000

Not paying out winnings

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None of the representatives of the casino respond to my letters!
I mainly play roulette. I do not use bonus offers.
Verification was completed recently, in May 2020.
I’ve been playing in this casino for a long time and is very indignant at such an attitude to regular customers !!!

Unresolved

€5,369

Declined payment 136624 euro

Good afternoon. I want to inform you that Betvoyager casino refused to pay me 136624 euros !!! On February 19, 2019, I made 50 Euros on my deposit at Betvoyager casino and started playing Euro roulette for one number. My decision was to bet on the number 2, since I played on my system in one number and the number 2 is just my favorite number. Starting with a minimum bet, I saw a frequent fall of the number 2, so I decided to gradually increase the bet. As a result, the rate reached the maximum value of 200 euros per number! The game lasted about 4 hours in a row. Accordingly, my deposit began to grow at a high speed and reached a value of 136624evro! I have screenshots of my game that I recorded during the course of the game. Of course, it might seem incredible to you to win such an amount, but what about bets on a maximum of 200 Euros per maximum?
For my part, the game was fair and I did not use any programs and bots against the casino during the game. There were no crashes during the game. I played from a regular smartphone. After long correspondence, Betvoyager answered me: "Our security team has diligently checked and examined your games. It was concluded that there was an attempt to disrupt the RNG, and use a substitute program to generate a specific number in favor of the player.

In lieu of this and mathematical laws of probability, our security team deemed this to be impossible mathematically. As you understand, there can't be a number that keeps showing up hundreds of times while other numbers show up in a range of 10-30 times in a long game session.

We play only with honest players who do not try to find weaknesses in our system and try to exploit them. Our fairness control is for the player to know that we are honest, not for the player to try to rob us. Therefore your account is blocked. The results of your games have been nullified. Your initial deposit before you started to play is in your account, and we ask you to please created a withdrawal request for tat money so that we can process it and return your funds ". The situation when" 2 "often falls and the player in it betting more and more can not be considered fraud. Therefore, I demand to pay me my winnings soon!

Unresolved

€136,624

Delayed verification and €900 payment

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My username at betvoyager is borbaja58. I have a problem with betvoyager casino. I opened an account there on March 2019 and so far I didn't make any withdrawal request. I have made 12 skrill deposits in a total amount of 250 euros. I didn't use any bonuses and I was mainly playing Black Jack and on a few occasions slots. By the time I made the first withdrawal, which was this October my account balance was around 1000 euros. Then I made the first withdrawal request of 400 euros and the troubles started. After 2-3 days of waiting they asked for some ID which I immediately sent. At that occasion I sent picture of my national ID and a picture of a utility bill. Then another 10 days of waiting and after that my withdrawal was canceled and the money was returned to the main balance, and the withdrawal option was disabled on the account. Then I sent an email asking what is wrong, and got a replay that I should send ID??!! I sent it again, and this time I sent a picture of me holding my driving license. After that the withdrawal option was enabled again, and this time I have made a withdrawal request of 900.09 euros. That was on 11.12.2019.
Now it has been 6 days since, and my withdrawal request is still pending.

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Withdrawal/verification issue

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I deposited (very easily) EUR 100 into my BetVoyager account in good faith that it would be similarly easy to withdraw funds. To proceed with the withdrawal process I am asked to provide verification codes for email and phone number. I have checked thoroughly that the information I have given is correct. I have also clicked on the 'resend' button many times in an attempt to receive these verification codes. I have received no code. I have received nothing.

This means I am unable to continue with the withdrawal process and BetVoyager have my money.

In an attempt to resolve the matter, I tried calling their expensive support line and repeatedly got no answer. I then resorted to sending their 'support' an email and have had no response.

This is very worrying and I would appreciate some help.

Regards,

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21 days later and i'm not paid.

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