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Failing to block my account while waiting for withdrawal


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By Stacey
11 years ago
I deposited at Casino Extra on 11th June 2014, and had a finishing balance of £700. I proceeded to make a withdrawal of the whole balance, but I was met with needing to upload three different types of verification documents, which I did straight away.

I then contacted their live chat to ask how long the process would be for my documents to be verified, which Thijs said would take 24 to 48 hours. I then asked for a self block until this had been done, because I may end up spending my winnings. I have asked other casinos the same thing, and they have always done what they could to help me with this. Following is a copy of the conversation I had with Thijs:

Stacey 01:10:41 am

Ok thanks, is there a way I can self block until my withdrawal has been processed please?




Thijs 01:10:43 am

No there is not




Stacey 01:11:34 am

Could you then please ask for my documents to be done a bit quicker for me, as I can't self block?




Thijs 01:12:45 am

I do not know how many players are before you and I can not ask the payment team yet since they are in another timezone. We will inform you when your account is approved or if we need any additional information




Stacey 01:13:39 am

Ok so I you can't help me with stopping me from being able to spend my winnings?




Thijs 01:14:33 am

At this moment I can not do anything no? I can contact the payment department but will not have an answer from them for some hours




I returned to chat the same day and the next day, several times asking the status of my verification, and if they could please speed up the process, as they said I could not self block in any way. I then logged in later that night and managed to win a extra £100, so I logged out with £800 waiting to be withdrawn. The next day I still kept asking when my documents would be verified, and I was told I would still have to wait. Later that day I logged in and ended up loosing all of my £800.

I went straight to live support, and said that I wanted my account verified and my winnings withdrawn to me because I asked for my account to be blocked several times, and I was told no they can't do anything like that to help me.

They claimed that I did not ask for any such block/ exclusion ( you can see that I did in the live chat above) and kept repeating that my Drivers Licence was in bits ( it is not in bits, it has a few bends in it as it is nearly 10 years old). I then found this on their homepage under "responsible gaming" - 'Sometimes, it's important to take a break to cool off. We can help with a pre-set break period of 7 days or block '. I was not given any of this information by Thijs when I asked him about self blocking, and if I had known this at the time I could have used this service until my documents had been verified.

After my last communication with Nicolas, he sent me a email saying this - Hi Stacey,

Following our conversation I have closed your account as a precaution. It's seems that the request you ask to Thijs to "speed up the verification process" or "block your account the during that time" hides a big gambling issue. Today you mentioned gambling problems so please confirm what you want to do with your account:

- Do you want to self exclude yourself?
- Do you want to set deposit limits?
- Do you want a simple closure?

Regards,
Nicolas

This is shutting the door after the horse has bolted, and he also admits what I was asking for with Thijs.

I feel completely let down by Casino Extra's support agents, and I feel well within my rights to ask for my original £700 to be withdrawn to my debit card, and I will be sending a complaint to CIGA also.
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Rob has completely sorted this problem for me 100%, and I have made my withdrawal for the full £700 today. Rob has informed me that there should not be any more problems and has guided me on how to self block my account. I thank Rob for all his help and co-operation with this complaint, and this complaint can be listed as solved.

Again, thank you Rob.
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Hi Stacey,
I have to agree with you on this one. This was a mistake on our side and handled poorly by support. We should have guided you and advised you on how to set your own self-exclusion limits.

I have instructed the payments department to credit you with the full amount which you are free to withdraw immediately. I have also contacted support about this issue so you should have no inconveniences processing your withdrawal.

I have also sent you an email detailing how to set the self-exclusion limits on your account. You can very easily access this section from your profile and set the exclusions to your liking/preference.

I apologise for this inconvenience and for the regrettable experience with our casino. I do hope we managed to solve this issue to your benefit and that we will be able to keep you not just as a customer, but as a happy customer. I sent you my email and Skype details on my email, so please feel free to contact me at any time you need my assistance.

Rob
CasinoExtra

Casino Extra Complaint Stats

Resolved 17 / 17
Avg. Amount $1,849
Avg. Complaint Duration 6 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Dispute related to 9000 euro missing

On the 13th of March I won 39.297€ with Casino extra. They were processing my withdrawals to a maximum of 4000€ per week. It had to be 2000€ for each withdrawal. They said on chat 1k per withdrawal at the start but changed it to 2k.

I went on the Casino chat on the 5th of June as payments had suddenly stopped. At this point i had 9297€ outstanding. 297€ was my Casino balance and 9k was showing as processed in my Casino lobby. I was told the amounts were only processed today and to expect payment to my Eth Wallet within a few days. I then withdrawn the 297€ balance in my Casino account on this day.

I again went on chat on the 12th of June as I had not received any payments from the Casino for a week. I should have had another 4000€ paid by there weekly limits. I was told on chat that 2000€ would be paid tomorrow being the 13th. I asked why nothing was paid last week and they could not answer.

On the 13th of June I received 297€ from Casino extra which was my last withdrawal. This raised alarm bells to me as my last withdrawal was paid before the other 9k. I emailed the Casino to inform them that 9k is missing and they replied that the withdrawals have been processed in full. I replied asking them to send me the transaction history, which they did on the 19th of June. I checked these and they matched exactly what I had received and the time stamps which was a total of 30,297€. I replied that this is correct, exactly what I have received and that there is 9000€ missing. I received a reply that I must have withdrawn to a different crypto wallet as all payments are processed there end and they consider this case closed. I have only ever withdrawn to the same crypto wallet being Eth. I asked to send evidence of the payments they say they sent which I have not received.

On the 23rd June the Casino emailed me a list of 5 transactions. 4 x 2k and 1x 1k. 2 of the transactions were to a Bitcoin address and the other 3 were other wallet addresses. ( all different) Non of which belong to me. I investigated this through block chair and found it very strange that these 5 payments were the only transactions that did not match the time stamps of the Casino lobby like all the payments I actually received did. I notified the Casino of this and asked to investigate further. The reply was :

we want to emphasize that it is not within our responsibility to determine where the withdrawals were requested or where the funds were sent. As such, we consider this case closed.

I have never withdrawn to any other wallet address`s and the 9k missing that I won, the history does not even match my Casino lobby to when it was paid to a wallet address. This is not an error from my end.

Below is a screenshot of what was received, which Casino extra also originally sent me as the transaction history which i pointed out 9k Is missing.


24-Mar-2023 11:51 1.22340155 € 2,052.13

26-Mar-2023 10:00 0.60289559 € 975.11

27-Mar-2023 11:55 0.60734688 € 1,000.92

1-Apr-2023 07:57 0.59230881 € 992.79

1-Apr-2023 07:57 0.59230881 € 992.79

3-Apr-2023 15:09 0.60435092 € 1,004.13

3-Apr-2023 15:09 0.60428357 € 1,004.02

8-Apr-2023 09:07 0.58079699 € 985.55

8-Apr-2023 09:08 0.58079699 € 985.55

11-Apr-2023 11:03 0.56731525 € 996.02

16-Apr-2023 08:16 1.04327081 € 1,967.55

14:21 0.54977910 € 962.77

11:23

23-Apr-2023 09:13 0.58409379 € 986.78

26-Apr-2023 11:03 1.14589285 € 1,948.70

4-May-2023 11:49 1.15626661 € 1,988.77

12-May-2023 12:10 1.22817751 € 2,023.35

18-May-2023 10:15 1.18074636 € 1,984.21

19-May-2023 12:27 1.18696976 € 1,983.54

25-May-2023 13:09 1.18361604 € 1,981.21

27-May-2023 08:37 1.16843807 € 1,991.53

(Jun-09-2023 12:55:35 PM +UTC) 297€0x409c94ed01b5e29ba7ce1d9fa16fa748ed6c38657f4b4c179410d61979c5a526


Received 30,297€

Amount won 39,297€

Missing 5 payouts of 4X2k and 1X1k- 9k missing in payouts total


0x409c94ed01b5e29ba7ce1d9fa16fa748ed6c38657f4b4c179410d61979c5a526- Received 296 Dollars 09/6

0x3db39d1fca00396e31aba69989567652b1a4d1078b516d608ae7bad51c7c7835- Received 2000 27/5

0x71aa0c5d4f333dbc54f7e9bb6c1f9a1a8354d4800c861bd721b56cc23a4987ad- Received 2000 25/5

0xf0cea4bb8908605c770d1fedbd216a41f70eed354ade89c4e871cbf41734722d Received 2000 19/5

0xdbf404fa968a9f42f6c7de0683a96e06a1ba36e9208274586d32302f2062730a- Received 2000 18/5

0x7c4e6357a9355c1b85ec8bc590dd8375ee9d45f870675d6a43145bede7038d29- Received 2000 12/5

0xbd6c7db17990aabccab91329cf5f6ebf15b946e78e0e93258c9d06866ffa5d2c- Received 2000 4/5

0xe6dda6dfd13d5c20fa7a9e2488f42a18dbd916ba0d329c8064d8b120e0b73cfa- Received 2000 26/4

0xe120b63a98aa91362ed676770242735bbfab57c47a3d2f9e36640aba8fd16d76- Received 1000 23/4

0xf45b5adaaad50ae7afddf646791c668b2c76fc5089a715f1bc9c3e9abdd3634c- Received 2000 18/4

0x8c776a34ca6fd85db570b0755073e3b0c6e6694824e3c3536fbd9c862f8ec9be- Received 2000 16/4

0x9258bef24c8d225cf63dfecb1874a8f1e7cc50774531cfe4240efae34346c31c- Received 1000 11/4

0xc1236a3a24a02ce5d992984468e4ee6380223b4c1472ef4cc1c23c6cd971eb8a- Received 1000 8/4

0xdefe3dd324eb8bd89294fe409ceb253ac38c8c706e07bffdcfc1c15d799c1d06- Received 1000 8/4

0xa24890b1f508359e587952382c24ba0446cf1b82fd7a6e58da396497608e3248- Received 1000 3/4

0x6ec1dccbd4b78256d7fee7f25b3412d8f346122415dcd0704a4c89cdd45b524b- Received 1000 3/4

0x6d5d00483bdd83a3fcfaa89ec28cc895778dc38c1b8371e82f8e1ec6521dd901- Received 1000 01/4

0x61534b9b07a32413d88016dbc3a6889b1e171f0f78cc55b3d12c78f862dd4220- Received 1000 01/4

0xf0e6b04de73a58d049749ac02d81175ce94bee8b514d69200c7df6d8e078d4ba- Received 1000 27/3

0x7bd28acb0cb677db0f5de7162a87bc08cfac46ebb4e3e927e6e7b33cfb576307- Received 1000 26/03

0xf1892ee8fed92ae11d2851abd98a0121fa9ff116e8618d52853045f934abbbc9- Received 2000 24/3


Below is Casino extra´s response.


After careful investigation, we have located the missing funds amounting to 9k and have determined where they were sent. We would like to advise you to check the following Crypto addresses for the transactions:



1. TXID: d750bc56dae5f08ffe67886accee0cf67a4a72615bb4d32465c863ceb54a470a Address: bc1q2nyjgrn7n0kdx2v2fykdnefw939zctyrfmkj6e - 2k Jun 3, 2023 10:02 AMUTC

2. TXID: c4f5ef9d67c58005712fa59a3eb28018dd91e93ad4ff176eb45e2e9a0bb381f8 Address: bc1q2nyjgrn7n0kdx2v2fykdnefw939zctyrfmkj6e - 2k Jun 1, 2023 2:47 PMUTC

3. TXID: 0x594f5af259ac7e5a3aa22ba56ae175bbace7583f1420f42d7af3fcd9a6e95689 Address: 0xcf6eDa405846c04BfC6bFEe8c6d0E1262F184Ced - 2k May 10, 2023 2:26 PMUTC

4. TXID: 7644970acc0f476184971c7feb8d76783ed7218518a6db5208b8f1d251a91958 Address: 3KfKsgw83fuwyjcmcuGXCdkwPPadxFVBfM - 2kMay 3, 2023 11:43 AMUTC





Status solved Resolved
€9,000
The deposit limit does not work correctly

Hello there.

So my issue is that the set deposit limit (monthly 10€) has not been working and i've been able to deposit many times over the set limit. Which is not okay obviously. If i've chosen to set my deposit limit as 10€ per month (Limit set on 06/3/2021 confirmed by live support). Then i should not be able to deposit more than 10€ per month, am I correct?

Now the support as I tried to contact them first place, told me that in order to responsible gambling tools work, i have to also set daily and weekly limits. Now i don't honestly see this is how it should go. As i have history of various casinos and experience, i know that if i've wanted to add an monthly deposit limit. ie 20€, after that set, i've not been able to deposit more than 20€ per month. or that i've must been have added also Daily and Weekly limits in order to Monthly limit work. Also their T&C on Resp Gambling, doesn't state of above that daily and weekly limits must be activated also in order to monthly limit work.

I request for the additional deposits above my deposit limit to be refunded (After the deposits made from 06/3/2021 -> 08/03/2021 as the limit was set on that day 06/03)

Also i would appreciate big time, if they could also fix this issue. It is serious issue as its related to responsible gambling and to these kind on incidents not happen in future.

I also wanna add that they do not send email confirmations of when you add deposit limit. So i asked from live support the date it was set on. Transcript as evidence included.

Status solved Resolved
€130