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Hi,

Under normal circumstances, I would not be submitting a complaint about a simple matter such as "incorrect banking details" submitted for a bank wire but my current experience has caused me undue stress and frustration.

I am a fully verified player at Royal Panda Casino numerous successful deposits and a previous successful Withdrawal.

I submitted a Withdrawal request on November 29 , 2017 using using a previously successful Wire Payment option. On November 30, 2017, I was notified by emailed that the Withdrawal Failed and funds returned back to my account due to the "Bank Details" being incorrect.

On December 1, 2017, I submitted a second Withdrawal request using their WorldPay Bank Transfer option. On December 5, 2017, I received an email stating that "bank did not accept this type of transaction to car". The Finance Department asked that I resubmit the Withdrawal requesting using the following advice; "Withdrawal - bank wire - amount - bank account number - clearing number (5 digits) + institution code (3 digits)".

I submitted a third Withdrawal request on December 5, 2017 but incorrectly entered the Wire Payment details as "bank account number + clearing number (5 digits) + institution code (3 digits)" instead of Account number 12345 and then Clearing Number 12345-123.

On December 6, 2017, Royal Panda cancelled the December 5, 2017 Withdrawal request and asked for Bank Account Verification due to the fact that my incorrect sequence of my banking details were entered incorrectly. I responded to the email to explain that the banking details were simply entered in the wrong sequence and I was not using a new bank account that has already been verified). Additionally, I asked that they fix their system issue that was preventing me from adding a "New Bank Account" in the Wire Withdrawal section as I wanted to add the correct sequence of my banking details as directed.

On December 6, 2017, I also initiated contact with "Live Chat" in order to explain what has been happening to to escalate. I communicated with Customer service specialist: Szymon;

"12:00:50 Hi Szymon, I need assistance with an ongoing withdrawal issue. Are you able to communicate with your payments department to see what the issue is? Thank you
12:01:20 Szymon : Hello Brian. I just need to check your account, this won’t take more than a few minutes.
12:03:10 I appreciate your assistance
12:03:23 Szymon : Thank you for your patience. It seems that our verification department needs from you a bank statement * 2003, to complete the verification.
12:05:55 Szymon, I have cancelled that request. If they look closely, the bank account information is the same but the numbers are switched around. Are you able to ask them to process the withdrawal using the last successful withdrawal method. I was playing around with the format of the account details as I was having issues withdrawing. Thank you
12:07:57 Szymon : Thank you. Unfortunately, they requested that you should withdraw to your new bank account ending with * 2003. That I s why they need the bank statement.
12:09:03 I have already cancelled that request and submitted with a new request.
12:09:34 The new withdrawal request is the original account details on file.
12:11:16 Szymon : Thank you. Please bear with me for a moment I'll check that for you?
12:12:00 If the payment department can simply review the banking details, they will see that the 7 digit account number - 5 digit clearing number - 3 digit bank code are exactly the same on all my submissions. The only change is that they are switched around. Thank you
12:13:28 My 3 digit bank code is 00X and the clearing code is 0XXXX. If they look, they will surely notice that the numbers are exactly the same on both requests. Thank you
12:14:07 And the bank account number is also the same.
12:14:35 They were placed in the wrong sequence
12:17:52 Szymon : I apologize for keeping you waiting. I'm still checking please bear with me for a little longer please.
12:20:03 I thank you. The way that I entered the details which were in the wrong sequence was in the following format; bank account number - clearing number (5 digits) + institution code (3 digits)
12:20:36 That is why is looks like a new bank account number when in fact they will see that is is the same
12:23:12 Szymon : I'm really sorry that it takes so long and apologize. Please stay with me for a little longer.
12:23:33 Thank you Szymon
12:24:02 I want to get this right and make sure there is no further confusion
12:29:18 Szymon : I truly apologize for this situation. It seems that it will take a while. Your situation is little bit complicated for our verification department and they have to look into that. We will inform you via email as soon as there will be any update on this case.
12:30:14 Brian Chan: Did you inform them that the account details are simply in the wrong sequence?
12:30:39 Szymon : Yes of course. I apologize again.
12:30:46 I was following the instructions sent to me by the Payments department.
12:32:11 Szymon : Thank you. Kindly note that I've reported your case already. We will get back to you via email as soon as possible.
12:32:25 The subject Case Number was [#YHP-788-69981
12:33:14 Thank you for your help Szymon. I am not happy with my current experience at Royal Panda. "

On December 7, 2017, I continue to receive an error message stating that "Your Withdrawal request cannot be processed, please contact Support" when entering the banking details in the Wire Withdrawal section. I immediately contact Live Chat for support again and communicated with Pawel;

"12:18:52 * Please wait and one of our operators will be with you shortly.
12:19:58 Pawel : Hi, I'm Pawel. Thank you for contacting Royal Panda's customer service. I'm here to assist you today.
12:19:59 * You are now chatting with Pawel (Customer Service Specialist)
12:20:05 Pawel : Hello Brian. Do you mind holding on for a moment? I’m just checking your account. It shouldn’t take more than 5 minutes.
12:21:53 Hi Patel, are you able to contact your payments department to help me input the correct banking details in the Wire Withdrawal section. The current case that is open is under #ESF-182-42714. Thank you
12:24:26 Pawel, when I currently go into make a Wire Withdrawal request, it does not allow me to input a New Bank Account Number. The problem is that the existing bank account details captured in the system has the bank account number and institution number in the wrong sequence.
12:25:17 Pawel : Thank you for the explanation. I'll contact our financial department regarding your query. We'll get back to you via e-mail once they've checked it. I kindly ask you for patience.
12:28:08 Thank you. The Payments department did email me me the correct instructions in the case number that I have referenced. I tried to enter the bank wire details in the correct sequence, however, I keep receiving an error message stating that the “request cannot be completed, please contact support or try again”. I appreciate your assistance Pawel.
12:30:34 Pawel : Thank you for the explanation, Brian. I assure you that our verification department will do their best to investigate the issues for you and find a resolution.
12:42:36 Pawel : Is there anything else I can help you with today?
12:44:31 No, will I be contacted by email when the issue is fixed? Thank you
12:45:31 Pawel : Of course, we'll send you an e-mail once our verification department has checked your query.
12:45:54 Thank you Pawel. Have a great day"

On December 7, 2017, Royal Panda Support responded and asked that I resubmit Wire Withdrawal using the banking details in the correct sequence. I followed their instructions but again was receiving the same error message when trying to submit the Wire Withdrawal request with the correct banking detail sequence, "Your Withdrawal request cannot be processed, Please contact Suppport or try again". I responded to the email to advise Royal Panda that I did follow their advice but still receiving the same error message.

On December 8, 2017, I contact Live Chat and communicated with Michal;

"00:24:31 Michał : Hi, I'm Michał. Thank you for contacting Royal Panda's customer service. I'm here to assist you today.
00:24:31 * You are now chatting with Michał (Customer Service Specialist)
00:25:19 Michał : Do you mind holding on for a moment? I’m just checking your account. It shouldn’t take more than 5 minutes.
00:26:19 Hi Michal. I am having trouble submitting a withdrawal. When I enter the wire banking details, it gives me an error message stating that “Your withdrawal request cannot be processed, please contact support. Are you able to look into what the issue is?
00:26:29 Thank you.
00:32:47 Michał : I apologize for keeping you waiting. Please note, you need to provide the account number in the following format: 1111222233 (10 digits) and Clearing number in format: 01003003 (01003 standing for your bank branch code and 003 for the institution code. If you're providing the SWIFT code as the Clearing number, this is most likely the reason for the issue.
00:33:42 Ok, what if my Canadian Bank Account Number is only 7 digits? What should I do? Thank you.
00:34:56 Should I add a number or letter to the beginning or ending of my Canadian Bank Account Number?
00:35:15 Michał : I apologize, that was my mistake - the bank account number should be 7 digits.
00:36:24 Ok, I did try that but I am still receiving the same error message. Are you able to escalate further Michal? Thank you
00:37:24 Michał : Of course. Could you please make a screenshot of the filled withdrawal form and send it to suppor­t@r­oya­lpa­nda.com? We'll then be able to have this checked by our financial department.
00:38:07 Yes, I will do that. Thank you Michal."

On December 8, 2017, I replied to the Royal Panda Support email and attached an image of the error message.

I deal with other online Casinos and have never experienced this type of problem. With other online casinos, they will default to the last successful withdrawal method if there was an issue with the banking details that were entered. In this case, Royal Panda does not follow this obvious practice. The system errors during the wire withdrawal submission is extremely frustrating. Furthermore, waiting for over 24 hours to receive a response from Royal Panda Support is unacceptable.

All I would like to see is for Royal Panda to resolve the issue with the Wire Payment Withdrawal submission and allow me to successful process my Withdrawal request. The time that I have dedicated to following up on this issue is completely unfair.

Please help me resolve this ongoing issue with Royal Panda as I fear that, based on what has currently transpired, make drag on for an unspecified period of time.

Thank you.
Disputed Casino Royal Panda Casino
Amount $3705.95

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Based on submitter's last post AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is officially closed now.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

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Dear Omnistylz,

Thank you for the update.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this.

Best Regards,

Royal Panda
User name loyalty-level-2
Hi,

The Wire Withdrawal request was completed and posted to my bank account on December 12, 2017.

The Wire Withdrawal has been resolved.

Thank you for your assistance and follow up in this matter.
User name loyalty-level-2
Hi,

Royal Panda Payments Department may have finally figured things out. On December 11, 2017, Royal Panda has manually entered my Bank account details into the Wire Payment instructions Section. I have submitted the Wire Withdrawal request accordingly and have received confirmation on December 12, 2017 that the funds are on their way.

I will provide an update once the $3,705.95 USD has been posted in my bank account.

Thank you.

Royal Panda Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 59 / 65
Avg. Amount $11,859
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Proof of ownership of credit card

I am having an issue with Royal panda and their so called ' proof of ownership of credit card' document they require which must meet requirements as listed;

Proof Of Ownership

1) Upload a Proof of Ownership document, this is either a bank statement or a letter from your bank confirming you were the account holder. If you check your 'Card History' for a bank statement we would need to see the first 6 and last 4 digits, the expiry date, the bank's logo and your name.

OR

2) If your bank does not offer the option above, you will need to go to your local branch and ask for a typed Proof of Ownership document, on this document we will need confirmation that you were the previous account holder which also shows first 6 and last 4 digits, the expiry date, the bank's logo and your name - this document must be stamped and signed by your bank

I have uploaded multiple copies of bank statements as given in option 1 showing my name, address, card number that was used and even the transaction and dates that it was made, also a letter from the bank confirming I am the holder of the account but they keep rejecting all relevant information.

Please note these card verification documents they require have come after i have already made multiple deposits and MULTIPLE WITHDRAWALS... YES, THE CASINO HAS ALREADY WITHDRAWN WINNINGS BACK TO THE SAME CARD THEY NEED PROOF FOR?!?

I have contacted my bank here in my country asking if they even make such document for option 2 in documents they accept and they declined saying such documentation does not exist.

Now they have disabled the help desk for me and i am unable to seek further information and have disabled where I got to upload the documents that they require.

Status solved Resolved
$2,000
Missing Withdrawal from 15th October 2021

Hi AskGamblers,

Please assist me with this ongoing withdrawal problem that is now approaching week 19.

I've completed my first and only withdrawal from Royal Panda Casino on 15/10/2021 to my Visa Credit Card. After 5 business days I contacted my bank BNZ (Bank of New Zealand) to find out if they've received my international payment. My bank replied saying this:

"We have opted to discontinue accepting payments through this facility since 31st July, 2020. In line with the NAB Sanction Group Policy, we are making this change as part of our proactive approach to the detection and deterrence of sanctioned parties, jurisdictions and products which may have a connection to a BNZ product or service. Although this change means that international payments from some non-sanctioned merchants or countries are adversely impacted, it is the right thing to do to protect our customers and ensure ongoing compliance with our international obligations. As a bank, we must comply with all applicable laws in all the jurisdictions in which we operate. This includes requirements of supra-national organizations such as the United Nations and European Union.

Moving forward, all international payments will be received if they are sent using the SWIFT process. Details are provided on our BNZ website.

Any payments made to your Visa Credit Card on or after 31st July, 2020 would have been automatically returned to the sender. Since they haven’t transacted on your account, there would be no trace of their arrival or return on the BNZ system. We do not have visibility of instances where deposits have been blocked or whether it has been delayed for another reason. Only the merchant will have that level of detail".

I've contacted Royal Panda support via live chat/email on a weekly basis for the last 4 and a half months and I'm getting nowhere. I've provided them with everything they need from proof of where I live and where I work, driver's license, birth certificate, proof of income, bank statements to show I've never received my withdrawal, Letters from my bank to say I've never received my withdrawal, etc. etc. After providing the letters and statements from my bank they just keep sending me in circles never getting closer to resolving the problem.

Every time I explain to them my bank don't accept payments to Visa Credit cards anymore and that my bank has a policy in place to automatically return funds to the sender.. They say okay we will look into the matter but then weeks later they just email me saying the funds have landed at my provider. I then have to go through the entire process again to tell them my bank don't accept payments to Visa Credit cards anymore. My bank have no visibility into this as the transactions are automatically returned to the sender. I don't have access to the provider and my bank don't have access to the Provider. Only Royal Panda Casino can resolve this by contacting the provider and getting the withdrawal returned to my account so I can use another withdrawal method like SWIFT.

Please assist me AskGamblers.. Royal Panda Casino has no intention of resolving this dispute.

Here is the latest reply from them which I receive on a monthly basis.

  • Francesca (Royal Panda)
  • 3/02/2022, 3:59 GMT+1

Dear Lionale,

I trust this email find you well and thank you for contacting Royal Panda Support.

Kindly be advised that we have been in contact with your provider and we can confirm that the withdrawal of NZD 3,100.30 has landed on your provider's account with reference: ​

ARN XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If you encounter any questions, you can be able to check with your bank/provider by using the above as a reference.

Thank you for your kind patience in this matter and I hope the above is useful.

Should you have any other questions please feel free to contact us.

We are available through live chat and e-mail. Myself or another agent will be more than happy to help!

Have a great day!

Best regards,

Francesca

Royal Panda, Customer Support

Status unsolved Unresolved
$3,100
5 months of No payment

Hi Team,


Can you help me get this issue resolved after 5months of no payment or help from Royal Panda?


I requested a withdrawal amount of 1000NZD on 04/04/2021. 1 week later I had no money in my account, I contacted Royal Panda and they told me the funds should be in my bank and to send in a bank statement, which I did and this was approved by them. I was advised a case was created to solve my issue and I will be contacted, I wasn't. After no replies to my emails I contacted RP via live chat and was told the reason my money hasn't reached my account was that in August 2020 the laws anti money laundering in NZ changed and they do not accept card withdrawals only bank transfers. I questioned why they still put it through my card in April 2021 when they were well aware that the law changed in August 2020. They couldn't give me an answer to that. After 3 months of trying to draw information out of RP they sent me an email with a ARN code of the transaction they supposedly sent and once again request a bank statement from me. I sent in yet another bank statement proving I received no money from them and I contacted my bank with the ARN code. My bank informed me that the ARN code is a SENDERS code and RP need to trace the money from their end from the bank they transferred from which they should have done from the very beginning instead of pushing it back on me to investigate for 5 months. Basically I'm still without my 1000NZD and would like to get this resolved so I can stop chasing them up for something they should have done 5 months ago.


I have attached bank statements, conversations with RP and conversations with my bank.


Please help.

Status unsolved Unresolved
$1,000