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Hi,
I received an email advertising a new casino called Powerspins.com - so I decided to join and deposit £25 - I didn't play at that stage - just made the deposit to play with later. When I went to log on, it said my account had been temporarily suspended. I couldn't understand why, so emailed support, who took approximately 3 days to reply - only to inform me that the site was owned by BGO and I had an account with them which was self excluded.
My deposit would be confiscated - which hadn't been used to play with.
Why was I allowed to make the deposit with another site if I was self excluded ? How can this be in line 'with our commitment towards responsible gambling'.
It seems completely unfair to confiscate a deposit - I understand if I'd won and was trying to withdraw but it was an honest mistake - I had no idea the two sites where related.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Power Spins Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant licensing authority responsible for Power Spins Casino Casino.

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Good afternoon Janet,
Thank you for taking the time to contact us.

We undertook a full investigation of your accounts held with bgo Entertainment Ltd.
There was an account with both bgo and Powerspins matching your details and there is also another account on both bgo and Powerspins with a different set of details. Including a different name and date of birth.

You advised us in one of your emails that you held a number of different email address which is how we were able to match these accounts to yourself.

In the terms and conditions on Powerspins it states "This website Powerspins.com and any mobile applications through which our Services are offered are operated by Bgo Entertainment Limited (company registration number 1839), a company registered in Alderney. The registered office is at address Inchalla, Le Val, Alderney, GY9 3UL. These terms of use apply to Bgo Entertainment Limited, hereinafter called (Powerspins.com or the Company)."

There is also reference to this on the homepage, new player registration page and in the welcome email you were sent. I have attached these for you.

Your original account was self excluded with bgo and the account was set up on Powerspins using a different email address. The new player welcome bonus was accepted and started wagering through, it was at this point we been able to identify your self excluded account and frozen the access you had.

With a Self-Exclusion, it is an agreement by both parties that 1 - We will endeavor to stop you from gambling on bgo (and any other sites owned by bgo entertainment ltd), for the requested time-frame, and 2 - That you agree on your part not to attempt to re-open any accounts with us. If for any reason you decide to open a new account with the company, that has the same details as the Self Excluded account, and this is not stopped upon sign up - We will close this within a 'Reasonable Time-frame' As per the Gambling Commission guidelines. 

As you have deliberately entered details that differ from your original Self-Excluded account this has not been picked up instantly by our system, meaning we were unable to locate your duplicate account as fast as we normally would. This is a breach of the Self-Exclusion Agreement on your part.

There was no refund in funds for two reason, The first being that you had been self excluded on your bgo account and set up a new account with Powerspins and started wagering with the bonus. the second being that you did this with a second account in a different set of details on the same day.

In sections 18 and 19 of the terms and conditions you will also see the following statements;
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The Player may not have more than one account. If the Company detects a Player with more than one account, we reserve the right delete the superfluous account(s). No bonus given to the superfluous account or winnings will be honoured. Any funds lost will not be eligible for a refund.
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If the Player has been found to have opened multiple accounts for the purposes of obtaining additional bonus funds or an unfair advantage, we reserve the right to close all accounts and retain any balance or withdrawal associated with the accounts. Where these rules cannot be applied for any reason, the reallocation or reimbursement of funds will be at the discretion of the Company. In the event of funds being reallocated or reimbursed, an administration fee shall apply.

I hope this clarifies the situation for you and if you feel you need any further help or assistance please don't hesitate to get in contact with us.

Many Thanks,
Paul
Customer Service Manager
Powerspins Customer Care Team
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This complaint has been reopened due to the declared willingness on behalf of Power Spins Casino management to do everything within their power to solve their old complaints. AskGamblers Complaints Team is happy to give these old cases one more chance for a successful resolution.

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Power Spins Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 11 / 11
Avg. Amount $462
Avg. Complaint Duration 5 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Not paying winnings or refunding deposit
I self excluded from bgo after xmass.after losing alot on money so on fri 2nd Feb I came into money again and looked up non wagering sites and came across power spins casino so I joined and deposited over £250 pound in my session playing and won £3000 pound so I withdrew it .then on sat 3rd Feb I went onto my account again to find I couldn't get into it I rang up customer services and they told me they was bgo sister site which I didn't know as my eye s struggle seing small print and that the self exclusion also goes for power spins casino. I then had a email from customer services telling me they wasn't paying out my winnings or giving me a refund as I broke the rules .thet told me the computer didn't pick it up wen I signed up but wen staff started work they spotted i was exclude but taken £250 pound of my money in deposit and not refunding me or paying my winnings .I was totally unaware that they was run by the same company as I carry read small printed writing .now I'm out of pocket and being ignored by customer service saying they wasn't paying anything I think it wrong how they take my money one nite then exclude me from there sister site b4 my withdrawal or refund was made .I've spent a good few thousand gambling with bgo and had enough of loosing so that's why I self exclude myself .I felt lucky on fri so thought I'd try another site see if i was lucky but then finding out they took my money deposit I did and nothing even tho I won £3000 and requested the withdrawal. Is there anything I can do to get a compromise with them to get my money or sum money back ??? Thanks ric
Status solved Resolved
£250
Dubious practice
I had an email advertising a new casino "powerspins' so i thought i would give it a try. I deposited £35 and played a while during the night and luckily won £470. The casino looked very nicely laid out and it was an enjoyable experience. The next day i logged in again and was met by a message saying that my account had been temporarily suspended but no reason given. I sent an email to powerspins support (answered 3 days later). There reason for suspending my account was that i had 'duplicate accounts' which was against their T&C's. While being 100% sure that i had never played at Powerspins, it turns out that i had played at BGO casino a few years ago that i had closed. So in short, because i had played at BGO a few years ago, they where now suspending my account at Powerspins, confiscating my winnings and keeping my deposit. __ If this sounds quite silly, then the Gaming Commission, the NW Trading Standards and myself as a Lawyer who specialises in Consumer & Commercial Trading Law agrees with you____ After reading the reviews on the likes of Trustpilot where the BGO group has barely 1 out of 10 and reading the endless nightmare stories, it evolves a common complaint of BGO suspending accounts in Powerspins if the player has had an old BGO account. The worrying further note is that they seem to be doing it only to accounts that show winnings and not losses. Imagine if Nektan, MT SecureTrada or any other group did that with their many 100's of group casinos. They would not exist for very long. As other similar compliants about BGO have said here, THEY sent ME an invitation to play powerspins under a "brand new casino offerring". As for keeping deposits, I have some knowledge of this activity as i mentioned above and for a number of years i was a gaming regulation inspector and although it is not illegal to keep deposits, it is generally advised that casinos DO refund deposits out of a moral stance. Casinos that keep deposits in cases like this and others we generally advised to stay clear as it shows a degree of negative customer care and 'sharp practice' With all the common themed complaints about BGO, i firmly believe that they should now be classed as a Rogue Casino Group.
Status solved Resolved
£470
Game glitches, account not reachable, balance reset to 0
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Status solved Resolved
€900