Complaint #28 BGO Casino

Poor RTP and suspension of account issues

By paulanty

11 years ago

Message on forum

In summary of my complaint to date:

- BGO have confirmed that the RTP of 61.34% during the whole session of
game play on Roulette from account open stage (roulette currently running at
98.65%)was quite low but you cannot draw any conclusions. AGCC are unable to assist me with my complaint.

- BGO have suspended my account. In the circumstances, without any access
to my account records, how can I view the transactions in question. The suspension of my account is unreasonable particularly when BGO will not or cannot provide me with an audit report showing the transactions on my account.

- I have asked BGO for details of their software supplier, so I can contact
them and file a dispute form but again BGO will not or cannot supply me with
this information.

- BGO have stated that I have a duplicate account however I was not aware
of this and that is why I have asked BGO for further details. If a duplicate
account was set up, this was not done deliberately on my part, as I can't recall
ever going through the validation process of the first account, funding or
claiming any bonuses on that account. I no doubt used all the same ID details,
i.e. Name, address, email, DOB etc but I fail to understand though why their
computer system does not have a function to perform any checks beforehand
to see if another account already exists prior to registering another account.
BGO’s system allowed me to make four large deposits into the duplicate account
and play casino games for an hour. BGO failed to make any attempt or take any
proactive action to suspend the duplicate account until I contacted them
by email to make a complaint about the RTP. Instead all BGO will do is to put the ball back in my court saying the onus on me!

- I have read a case file on askgamblers.com details below:

As this player mentioned, he had opened duplicate accounts and had claimed
bonuses against the T&Cs on both, which meant his account was suspended
automatically. Following correspondence with the player the account was
re-opened and everything has been resolved.

In context to my account suspension, as far as I can see, I have not claimed any
bonuses on the first or duplicate account, so why am I been tarred-and-feathered.

The complaint has been referred again to AGCC but they will not assist me any further with my complaint. I feel that BGO and AGCC are sending me round in circles and I now turn to askgamblers for help.

Disputed Casino BGO Casino

Reason Terms violation

Discussion

AskGamblers

• Support Team

8 years ago

AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf BGO Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant licensing authority responsible for BGO Casino.

BGO Casino

• Representative

8 years ago

Hello Paul,

I can confirm this matter has been investigated thoroughly for you, including all correspondence relating to your account.

I understand that you received the RTP prior to the case being sent to AGCC, and as you have advised your RTP for the game play in question resulted in 61.34%. However, RTP is calculated over tens of thousands of spins.

We can confirm that you hold duplicate accounts with us, which had been created with a different email address and telephone number. In line with the Gambling Commissions guidelines, these have been detected and suspended within a 'Reasonable Time-frame'. Duplicate accounts are in breach of section 19 and 20 of our Terms and conditions;

'19. The Player may not have more than one account. If the Company detects a Player with more than one account, we reserve the right delete the superfluous account(s). No bonus given to the superfluous account or winnings will be honoured. Any funds lost will not be eligible for a refund.

20. If the Player has been found to have opened multiple accounts for the purposes of obtaining additional bonus funds or an unfair advantage, we reserve the right to close all accounts and retain any balance or withdrawal associated with the accounts. Where these rules cannot be applied for any reason, the reallocation or reimbursement of funds will be at the discretion of the Company. In the event of funds being reallocated or reimbursed, an administration fee shall apply.'

I would like to apologise for the communication regarding a withdrawal, as this was not specific to your case and of course caused confusion.

I can confirm that our position remains closed as this had been referred to the AGCC in line with our complaints procedure.

Kind regards,
Rebecca
bgo Customer Support

AskGamblers

• Support Team

8 years ago

This complaint has been reopened due to the declared willingness on behalf of BGO Casino management to do everything within their power to solve their old complaints. AskGamblers Complaints Team is happy to give these old cases one more chance for a successful resolution.

paulanty

• United Kingdom

11 years ago

Yes the matter was referred to AGCC but they saw no basis upon which to progress with my complaint. Their decision was based upon complex mathematical formulae calculation methods of how games should perform v my sampling of play.

What I don't understand is why BGO have gone behind my back and have tried to sign off the case marking it as resolved???

BGO Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 73 / 81

Avg. Amount $2,403

Avg. Complaint Duration 8 days

Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Serious Delay of Withdrawal

I have waited for 2 months now for a withdrawal. Sent all documents they asked for even additional documents but received no update and nothing at all! And even said I will delay the process if I keep emailing them!

How ridiculous and rude! I’m waiting for another week then I will report this to gambling regulatory. This is not accepted! They are just holding your money!

Unresolved

£18,000

Payment delays

I switched to this casino because of its high score on review websites. However all I have received is constant request for documents, which I have provided and delays to payments. They currently owe £3800 which is over three weeks old now. I have had a couple of e-mails, the last one I sent asked for an update which was worded

…….Thank you for contacting us.

We have chased for an update this afternoon with the relevant department and unfortunately, we currently don't have an update.

As soon as we have an update, we will be in touch…….

Terrible customer service after three weeks. The excuse they use is they are checking whether I have the means to gamble however my nett spend on their website is £380 up???? All they seem do is delay payment as long as possible by asked big for more and more documents. I have sent the same documents numerous times.

They have now frozen my account so I can’t even look whether the withdrawal is pending etc. I have asked for an explanation four days ago and I still haven’t received a response.

Unresolved

£3,800

Withdrawal still not processed 10 days later

I deposited approximately £1200 over three deposits and eventually managed to ‘win’ around £200, prompting me to request a withdrawal of £1400.

Having deposited and won at BGO many times previously, I had never had to wait more than 24 hours for a withdrawal to a) be approved and b) appear in my account.

When, after two days, I noticed my most recent withdrawal had not gone through, I went on to Live Chat to ask why. Unfortunately, absolutely no explanation was given and what’s more, my account was temporarily frozen. Again, no reason was given - and still hasn’t been.

Having gambled online for many years, I understand the protocols and as such have been happy to submit verification documents (pertaining to FOUR separate requests involving bank statements, driving licence photos, photos of my card, payslips and a copy of my P60). Seems slightly excessive, and I was even asked questions relating to money I send my other half every month upon getting paid (for our joint mortgage, joint savings, monthly disposable spending, car insurance, etc.). Again, these questions were answered without issue on my part.

Unfortunately, having got absolutely nowhere, I feel I have run out of options.

For the avoidance of doubt;

I had never signed up with BGO before so do not have a duplicate account.

I have two separate e-mails confirming that my account is verified.

I am not serving a self-exclusion at BGO or its sister companies.

I have NEVER used bonus funds and have only ever accrued wins via my own deposit cash.

So some of the more typical reasons cited for account suspensions/lack of payment simply do not apply in this instance.

It goes without saying that I seek the full amount of £1400 to be repaid to me, and for this somewhat unnecessary delay to cease.

For those interested, I can even recall
the number on roulette that helped return my withdrawal amount - red 9!

I am extremely disappointed with the lack of clarity, communication and the withholding of funds, and it would not be an exaggeration to suggest that this drawn out process has been extremely unhelpful for my mental health. The stress and level of helplessness is difficult to describe, and not something I have ever had to endure in my 30 years.

Unresolved

£1,400

Closes account with no explanation

On 02 Feb 2020 I created an account with BGO casino and deposited amounts adding up to £2500 from my PayPal account (I kept losing so this was across numerous transactions) BGO took my deposits no problem. I got my account balance up to £3032.50 when I decided I would make a withdrawal request (I reversed this a few times to carry on playing). On 03 Feb I had an email from the compliance team asking me for verification documents in the form of ID and proof of address. I sent in my driving license and a recent letter as proof of address but got told this was not good enough and they require me to take a “selfie” and hold my driving license up next to my face and a bank statement - which I did. No problem as I was expecting this as I have it with every gambling site.

The next day I tried to log into my account but it was “temporarily frozen”. So i contacted live support - They told me this was there normal process while I get verified. The next day I try to log in but still frozen. I contact live support again to be told they cannot comment on the situation and wait for the compliance team to contact me via email. 06 Feb account still frozen, so I contact live support AGAIN. They say the same we cannot comment on this situation. By now I’m getting very frustrated as any other site it takes a day or two at the most to verify my account no problem. Later on 06 Feb I receive an email from the BGO management team to say my account is closed, we will not communicate with you any further. I sent an email back asking for reasons behind my account closer and to pay out what is fairly due to me and no response. I want clear reasoning and justification to why my account is closed and you are withholding my deposit and winnings. I deposited my own money, fully cooperated with question and the verification process. You cannot just ban a players account and refuse to talk to them without any reasoning. I have played with many sites and never been treated this badly. It’s a total disgrace.

I can’t even submit a formal complaint to the casino because they aren’t replying to my emails!!

Resolved

£3,032

Account closure without explanation

On 15th January I've deposited £3000 at BGO casino by mistake using Paypal, it was meant to be £300. When I realised that, I have requested withdrawal of £3000 back into my Paypal account. I received an email from the compliance team same day regarding some verification documents which I was expecting. I've provided all the documents on the same day without any delay. I was waiting for a reply from the team and chasing them meanwhile, Yesterday I received an email from the management team that my account has been closed permanently without any explanation. I tried to contact them using live chat but the advisor refused to comment and ended the chat! At the moment I have no update regarding my withdrawal of £3000. That was my money and i demand an answer as to when I will receive my money?

Resolved

£3,000

Account closure and witholding deposit and winnings

On 11th Jan 2020 I created an account with BGO casino and despaired £9,000 from my current account. This money is from my saving account and a combination of work and previous winnings from other gambling sites. They took my despot no problem. I have been playing on roulette and blackjack. When I would I made withdrawal request but reversed these a few times to carry on playing. On my history you will see declined as these are my reversals. On 12th January I had an email from the compliance team asking me for verification documents in the form of ID, bank card and bank statements. No problem as I was expecting this as I have it with every gambling site. I was allowed to still carry on playing on BGO’s site. I managed to get my account balance winnings to £25,150.80. I made the withdraw however this had to be in two amounts due to the value, one at £20,000 and the other at £5,150.80. On 13th Jan 2020I had a further email requesting more bank statements and payslips. I provided this to the compliance team. I went onto the site on 14th January 2020 to find my account was frozen. I contact live support who put me through to the compliance team. They told me this was there normal process while I get verified. The next day -5th January try to log in still frozen. I contact live support again to be told they cannot comment on the situation and wait for the compliance team to contact me. 16th January account still frozen, so I contact live support again. They say the same we cannot comment on this situation. By now I’m getting very frustrated as any other site it taps a day or two at the most to verify my account no problem. Later on 16th January I receive an email from the BGO management team to say my account is closed, we will not communicate with you any further. I sent an email back asking for reasons behind my account closer and to pay out what is fairly due to me. On 19th January now and no response. I want clear reasoning and justification to why my account is closed and you are withholding my deposit and winnings. I deposited my own money, fully cooperated with question and the verification process. You cannot just ban a players account and refuse to talk to them without any reasoning. I have played with many sites and never been treated this badly. It’s a total disgrace what you have done to me and now this matter has become very serious.

Resolved

£9,000

No payment from BGO

Basically I withdrew £1,135.00 pounds on the 20th Oct 2019. It got approved and I was sent an email on the 22nd saying "Your funds have now been processed and should be with you shortly. If an online wallet was used to withdraw such as PayPal, your funds will be available instantly. "

I withdrew with Skrill, and expected the money to be in my account after a day or two.

After a couple of days I reached out to their customer service and asked why this was taking so long, it had now been 4 days. I was told it would take 4-5 days, so I went ahead and waited. It has now been EIGHT DAYS, and there is no money in my Skrill account.

I contacted BGO today and they keep saying the payment was APPROVED, but never directly said it was sent. They told me they contacted Skrill and appearently Skrill told BGO they cannot help them, and allegedly told BGO that I MYSELF had to reach out to them. Which I did. Apparently there is nothing on its way to my account.

I contacted BGO again today, and they keep saying the exact same thing.

"Thank you for your patience regarding this matter.

Our Payments Team have been in contact with your payment provider, and they have informed us that you will need to contact them directly regarding this withdrawal, as they are not able to discuss it with us."

What is this? Surely if the money was sent they would have an transaction ID to be able to locate this payment if it ever went through. That us what the accounting department in every company is for. Every payment is accounted for and should be able to be tracked.

They are basically saying they can’t discuss their own payment with the provider that they allegedly made?

It sounds to me like they never sent it to me in the first place.

I contacted them on live chat today and asked how much time it usually takes for a withdrawal to Skrill. A couple of hours they said. Funny how I have waited for nearly 9 days now and no one can tell me where the money is.

So where is my money BGO? You have been playing around with me too much.

Your "Payments Team" should easily be able to locate this money, every transaction has an transaction ID.

If I do not receive this money shortly I will file a complaint with the Gambling Commission. Utterly unacceptable.

Resolved

£1,135

Accepted deposits while active self-exclusion with Gamstop was in place

BGO accepted deposits while Gamstop was in place on the 30th of June this year..
I asked for refund but they refuse to provide this.
I had already closed a primary account in 2013 as I was gambling too much.
As a responsible gambling company I feel they should be honouring Gamstop and should return the £250 deposited.

Rejected

£250

Withdrawal issues

Requested withdrawal for the 1st through mastercard got rejected because my country doesnt allow withdrawal through cards only bank account. 2nd time asked support if I could withdraw my money to bank account and they said no problem only thing I need to do is to give them informations about my bank abd bank account so they can process payment. They said it will take 3-5 days for mobey to get to my bank account. Then what happend, 6 days passed I talk with support they say now this kind of withdrawal take long that I shoukd wait 10 days total. After like 12 days total nothing talking to them again they request info again did that they said it should go without problem now. And after 1 day they sent me email saying that they can t withdraw my money to my bank account that I need to deposit again via netteler or skrill and then request withdrawal. Problem is that I dont have account on neither site. Had same problem like this with mastercard on RIZK CASINO asked support can i withdraw via banj account they said ok had money in my bank account within 3 days. So this acts by this casino are realy disgusting and they did nothing to help me withdraw.

Rejected

Unjustly forcing me to fill SAR to get my complete deposit history

I contacted bgo live chat to request account closure for good. But during chat i asked for my withdrawal and depoist history. They confirmed account of 3 years had never been a withdrawal. But they would not provide deposit total. They said i would have to request SAR. I believed this info to be wrong. So i asked them to hold off closure until i check my total deposits myself. They closed account and disconnected my chat. Shocking behavior. They are now trying to get 10 pound off me to check deposit total. I have attached screen shot of chat.

Resolved