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By mrcoops
6 years ago
Casino: www.bronzecasino.org

As a UK player I am signed up with Gamstop to help control online activities and always look to use site deposit limit and restrictions policies to help control and manage time spent online.

I currently have an ongoing issue with Bronze Casino which is just not getting resolved.

I have send many chat messages and emails to Bronze Casino requesting self exclusion since August and have requested copies of my chat conscript to pinpoint excat dates so that I can request email copies from my ISP but unfortunately they are just not sending them to me.

The earliest saved evidence of correspondance I have with Bronze casino is dated 10th September 2019 requesting self exclusion to suppor­t@b­ron­zec­asi­no.org (as advsed by live chat) which is attached. I never recieved a reply from this.

I then spoke to live chat on Saturday 14th September and screenshotted the majority of the conversation. IMG_4591 through to IMG_4600 clearly shows the date and contect of chat messages further requesting self exclusion.

I then emailed the VIP manager on 21st September (attached) requesting further copies of previous chat conscripts as I was getting no where fast. I kept the conversation amicable as I did not want them to go belt and braces on me and 'shut up shop' with correspondance. I sent a further request for chat logs on the 27th September 2019 (attached) and although I did get various replies I have never been provided with any chat evidence.


Having still heard noting and the account still live I emailed their complaints team (as stated on their website terms and conditions clause 20.7) of which are attached , togther with a copy of the email sent and cc'd to their VIP manager. I recieved a prompt reply from them stating that Bronze Casino were a completely unrelated company and they were broadcasing a complaints email address for the wrong company. I replied to this on the 7th October to both the email responder and the VIP Manager of Bronze Casino.

To this day my account is still open and I have heard nothing.

They continue to encourage me to gamble, send deposit bonuses and have disregarded their duty of care and have no responsible gambling self control section on their website to allow players to set deposit limits or restrict access without talking to them directly and waiting for them to action it.

I am disgusted by how they are operating and believe they are in breach of regulations and request a full investigation and refund of deposits from the date I first requested self exclusion.

Yours sincerely
Disputed Casino Bronze Casino
Reason Other

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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Bronze Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

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Dear MRCOOPS

We appreciate you bringing this matter to our attention.

We have investigated your concerns and we see that there was no email received from you requesting to self-exclude or to close your account.

As you are aware the casino is not and never been affiliated with Gamstop.

The Terms and Conditions of the casino state that:
9.1 Players have the right to terminate their account at anytime. Should you wish to do so, you must write to us via email or by filling in the ‘contact us’ form on the website. During the period of time between you requesting the termination of your account and us completing this request you remain fully responsible for the account.

17.2 Please call us or send us an email to use our self-exclusion option. Please include all your account details and the period of time that you wish the self-exclusion to apply. In the event that you do not provide us with an exclusion period we will apply the minimum term.

Please be advised that the correct email address of the casino is suppor­t@b­ron­zec­asi­no.com. The contact page of the casino website clearly states that the email address is suppor­t@b­ron­zec­asi­no.com
https:­//w­ww.b­ro­nze­cas­ino.or­g/h­elp­-ce­nte­r/?­lan­g=e­n#h­elp­Cen­ter/FAQ

We can confirm that you also have access to the direct email address of your Account Manager and yet you failed to inform him that you wish you close your account or to self-exclude.

Here is one of the emails that your account manager had sent you:

“Hey x, How are you? I’m sorry, I don’t have access to
chats. May I ask why you want the chat logs? Did something
happen? Please let me know and I’ll be happy to assist. Kind
regards,”

Also, there are numerous email correspondences back and forth with your account manager dating all the way back to the 4th of August through the 3rd of October and at no point did you mention that you wish to close your account or that you have a gabling problem.

In addition, you also have the email address of the finance team. You had ample opportunity to send an email request to the correct email address or directly to your account manager. Yet, no email request was received at all.

Chat operators are not authorized to close the accounts while on chat. This is because of the fluidity of the chat situation and the possibility that a chat operator might inadvertently not process a request properly.

As long as a client has not indicated that there is a gambling addiction involved the presumption is that the client’s free will is unimpaired. Part of the follow-up process, once a client submits the account closure request in writing, is to give the client the opportunity to state they have an addiction.

Please be advised that your account is now closed.

Kind regards


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Bronze Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 114 / 115
Avg. Amount $1,181
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Not paying my withdrawal
I processed a withdrawal for €750 on 3rd August 2020 and on the 6th August 2020 I received a confirmation email that my withdrawal had been processed and to allow 3-5 business days for funds to appear in account.

I chased this up on the 12th August just to ask when it was paid. I was informed that my payment was paid out and had bounced back.
I was advised that Finance will be reissuing an additional wire for 750 euros and to allow another 3-5 business days.

On 18th August 2020 I again chased this up with the team just to clarify what day my wire payment was made as I had still not received the funds into my account.

I received a response back from Jill the clubs account manager advising that they are hoping I will be paid today but she was waiting for authorization.
My withdrawal has been fast tracked whatever that meant but was waiting for the finance department to open and process her request.

I was somewhat confused by this email but assumed that as she advised my withdrawal would be fast tracked and they were hoping to pay me that day that the funds will appear in my account.

To my disappointment I was advised that my payment was never re-issued as advised in the email dated the 12th August and I received no emails from Bronze Casino advising me of the delay. I was again told that my payment bounced back and that they were trying to re-issue my payment and to again allow 3-5 business days.

I emailed back advising of my sheer disappointment and asked how to raise a complaint, however this information was not forthcoming.

However today 19th August 2020 I received an email advising that the following “ There seems to be an issue with our bank system.
We will credit you your winnings ASAP once its its fixed.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience.
As soon as we pay you, you will be notified as fast as possible.

I want the casino to come pay me my winnings I am just being told conflicting information, no clear clarity when I email. An appalling casino that are clearly delaying paying out their customers.
Status solved Resolved
€750