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I took 125% welcome bonus a while ago and yesterday I took 100% bonus and made a 430e withdrawal. The withdraw was canceled.
The reason why my withdrawal was declined: ''claiming multiple hundred percent (100%) deposit bonuses without any other deposit in between''
So according to the terms and conditions I did not break any rules, since I never used MULTIPLE HUNDRED PERCENT deposit bonuses without any other deposit in between. The terms and conditions clearly state that this rule is only for multiple 100% bonuses; it says nothing about using deposit bonuses above 100%, so OF COURSE I thought I was not breaking any rules.

Today I contacted livechat, since I was really curious about what part of the terms and conditions I broke. Whenever I asked the support agent to copy paste that part of the terms and conditions I broke he just copy pasted this: "claiming multiple hundred percent (100%) deposit bonuses without any other deposit in between". After receiving that answer I told the support agent: " I have not claimed multiple hundred percent deposit bonuses, so can you copy paste the part of the rules I broke". After that I just kept receiving the same answer, so I decided to contact Askgamblers.
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User name
AskGamblers Complaints Team have been provided with valid evidence on behalf the management of Casino Ventura where it is clearly displayed that player used two 100+% deposit match bonuses in a row without 'bonus-free' deposits in between and namely:

- 1.3.2017 16:25:38 - Player deposited 20.00 EUR
- 1.3.2017 16:25:40 - Player claimed 125% deposit match bonus - 25.00 EUR
- 3.4.2017 12:48:39 - Player deposited 20.00 EUR
- 3.4.2017 12:48:41 - Player claimed 100% deposit match bonus - 20.00 EUR

Player by this actions violated the following rule from the General bonus terms and conditions:

- ...(ii) claiming multiple hundred percent (100%) deposit bonuses without any other deposit in between...

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

Considering the fact this is the second complaint we receive in less then 24 hours against Casino Ventura referring to identical issue, AskGamblers Complaints Team strongly encourage the casino management to consider possible amendments of the aforementioned bonus rule towards more clarity and the avoidance of similar misunderstandings in the future.
User name loyalty-level-2
"Hi Ville, thank you for your input. I'm sorry you feel that way, it is absolutely not our intention to mislead anyone.

Our terms are very clear. We give the example that claiming multiple 100% bonuses in a row is considered abuse, so I don't understand how you can think that claiming multiple bonuses with a higher percentage is not considered abuse? "

In this case your terms and conditions should state that claiming a multiple bonuses in a row is considered abuse. Of course I think that claiming multiple bonuses with a higher percentage is not considered abuse, since the terms and conditions clearly states that: claiming multiple HUNDRED PERCENT (100%) bonuses in a row is considered abuse. Why would I think that I broke the rules if the terms and conditions DOES NOT tell me that I did something wrong? This makes no sense at all.
User name
Hi Ville, thank you for your input. I'm sorry you feel that way, it is absolutely not our intention to mislead anyone.

Our terms are very clear. We give the example that claiming multiple 100% bonuses in a row is considered abuse, so I don't understand how you can think that claiming multiple bonuses with a higher percentage is not considered abuse?


Kind regards,
Sarah
User name loyalty-level-2
It feels like you guys are abusing misleading bonus terms / wrongly stated bonus terms against me.

Casino Ventura Complaint Stats

Resolved 8 / 10
Avg. Amount $249
Avg. Complaint Duration 5 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

Casino Ventura Complaints

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Missing funds
Hello Askgamblers, I wrote earlier but it was rejected, I hope this time I have compiled everything necessary.

1.- On April 24, I deposit 100 dollars in the casino Ventura without bonus, i betting in blackjack and my final balance was 140. attached image of the deposit "deposit to casino ventura 100 dollars 24th april" and "confirmation, deposit to casino ventura 100 dollars 24th april"

2.- on May 27 he made a withdrawal of 140 dollars, attached image "confirmation, deposit to casino ventura 100 dollars 24th july"

3.- On July 7 I tried to access my account but it was not possible, then contacted the support and told me that I did not have an account with them, it was then that they explained me that they migrated their website and some accounts were not migrated correctly between them mine, so they asked for my account details to restore it. attached image "they created my new password but my balance was zero 24th july", later I will create my password but my balance was 0.attached image "they created my new password but my balance was zero 24th july"

4.- since then the i was contacting support and they do not want to return my balance. his argument is that they gave me 50 dollars of bonus which i does not accept and that they refuse to give me back my 140 dollars, because of his administration make his decision, as it can be seen totally biased affecting my balance and stealing the 140 dollars.
attached images "contact by email 05th August", "contact by email 24th july" and "contact by email 24th octuber"

5.-You can see the balance in my account is 0 and I have not historical record of bets and transfers, because migration. attached images "my account casino ventura-balance 0-no bets alls time" and "account details casino ventura"


Then, ask you Askgamblers to do justice in my case and instruct the casino to return my balance 140 dollars. thanks.
Status unsolved Unresolved
$140
Closed account and not paying my winnings
I opened the casino a few years ago, made many deposits and withdrawals, I do not remember the time when I made the last deposit and withdraw money when I can not access my account, after some time my twin brother opens a casino account (other IP and Computer, other residence address, another person) he makes only one deposit and does not use the bonus, He makes only one deposit and wins nothing. casino linked the two accounts, recognizes as a duplicate sic! It's not true, there is another person with another computer and other address of residence, only this same City. I played later on my account and won 2600e, a few months ago, It was long time I do not remember the exact date and amount of the last deposit, I can not verify it because I can not log into the casino account. I contacted them for chat and several times they assure me that if my twin brother will verify the account the documents will be my account will be unlocked, My twin brother sends all docs + selfie, they still do not answer, they do not unlock the account, contact with this casino is very difficult. This casino looks every smallest reason not to pay the winnings, I do not understand how such a casino can have a trusted status. terms: Only one bonus offer is allowed per player, account, address, computer and IP address. CasinoVentura.com reserves the right to close any account that is deemed a duplicate account, and confiscate the funds of this account. Bonuses only one account used, my brother opened acc another computer, address, ip etc, and not used bonus.
Status solved Resolved
Confiscated legitimate winnings without proper justification
I opened a casino account Casinoventura a year ago, made a lot of deposits and withdraws money, On last Monday ( 19.06.1988) I made a 88e deposit and received a 100% bonus, I made the required bet and made a withdrawal of 2000e , Today I received a return only my last deposit. (88e) I always read the exact terms and is sure I no broke the rules of the casino, casino did not give any reason and evidence that it broke some rules, I do not understand the casino's decision and why they do not give a reason why they steal my money. Casino believes that I broke the rules: 4.1 General Bonus Terms and Conditions To ensure fair play and the proper use of bonuses, Casino Ventura considers betting [...]claiming multiple hundred percent (100%) deposit bonuses without any other deposit in between. Player betting patterns and activity are constantly monitored and in case of bonus abuse, Casino Ventura reserves the right to cancel, suspend or lock any player account found guilty of abuse as well as void/revoke any pending gaming activity and refund the original deposit. Casino they think I made deposits a few times each in a row using a 100% bonus, it's not true. I made deposits between taking a 100% bonus. Casino is lying. The casino does not show any evidence. Each casino may write that it has broken rules or that the player is a bonus abuse but it is necessary to prove, casino Ventura will not prove that I broke the rules, I am more than certain,
Status unsolved Unresolved
€2,000
Refuses to pay honest winnings claiming mysterious ''technical default''
I've had the pleasure of trying some different Casino's and since I'm new to this world I was a little hesitant and worried what kind of people were running these sites. To my surprise I have to say I'm positively surprised. EVERY Casino I've won at have paid the full amount of my winnings. Some have been slow to pay out but with a little reminding they've always fulfilled their duties, except ONE. ONE casino stands out: CASINO VENTURA DO NOT PLAY THIS CASINO!!! I played slots and won 2500USD on my first deposit that included a welcome bonus. I played through the wagering requirements. I then sent a request for a withdrawal to make sure this was ALSO an honest casino. I got a response that my withdrawal was denied. Nothing more. I emailed the cashier but did not get a response at first. So I asked in the chat. They looked into my case and found the following to say about the reason for my withdrawal being denied: The winnings have been forfeited according to terms and conditions due to fraudulent behavior and taking unfair advantage. I then questioned how I'd been "fraudulent and unfair" when I've played exactly according to their requirements. I then get a fairly surprising email that "the winnings have occured after a technical default and that they don't believe I was responsible for this" and that they've credited MY DEPOSIT back to my balance.... THANKS! SO, they blame these winnings on a technical default on their end.. (the games were working fine all this time, by the way) and because of this they've stripped me from 2500USD and returned 100 instead. Perhaps they thought I'd be happy and could start over winning again... well, what's the reason really, when you can't win at this site without being "fraudulant and unfair" or that, God forbids, there should be ANOTHER technical default. I've followed up and let them know that I will spread this at gamblers forums, not to be an ******** but to WARN other players of CASINO VENTURA. They brought it up for review with their management for further investigation and decided that the decision they took remains final. Bottomline: they have admitted it's their fault and still feels I don't have the right to my honestly won winnings as you can see in the mail conversations provided via the screen dumps attached. And more importantly, there is no breach of bonus terms, this is not a delay in payment. This is fraud straight up and down and I have the emails to prove it. They took a chance at not paying and I've offered Casino Ventura several times to resolve this matter but to no avail. I've been polite in my emails and the only thing I've done is to tell them that I will go to askgamblers and even so they decided to not pay the money. Thanks for your time. Best Regards /Simon simmespelet
Status solved Resolved