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By Mark
9 years ago
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Recently I played with some no deposit free spins at 'Spin Station'. I got a fairly large amount of winnings from this (roughly €126), but I could not convert these winnings into a withdrawable amount before making a deposit.
From paragraph 10 of their bonus terms:
"(vi) If you have never made a deposit, any gameplay using bonus funds will not unlock bonus funds or bonus winnings from free spins and all winnings will return directly to your bonus account until you make your first deposit. All funds in your bonus account at the time of first deposit will be subject to standard play-through requirements."
I deposited 20 euros, played with this for a while on several slots (wagering more than €20) and then attempted to withdraw it. When I wanted to do this I got an error message stating that the minimum withdrawable amount was €30 (their T&C states the minimum is €20), when I asked a support agent he claimed that I was not allowed to withdraw anything until I had cleared my bonus balance. He cited the following section of their terms and conditions:
From paragraph 5 of Spin Station's bonus terms and conditions:
"(v) The deposit and possible winnings connected to the bonus will be locked to the casino account until the wagering has been completed. Where promotions do allow withdrawals with an active bonus balance, at this stage, any remaining bonuses will be revoked."
I would argue that this does not apply to my situation. Using the article 'the' twice in "The deposit and possible winnings connected to the bonus" means that it refers to a specific deposit connected to a bonus. I did not receive a bonus for my deposit, nor is my deposit connected to the bonus funds on my account. After further questioning I got told that "The deposit" refers to any funds in a players cash balance. This is incredibely confusing. In the terms and conditions 'deposit' and 'cash balance' are two seperate terms that are used in completely different ways. That section of the terms and conditions is the only section in which 'deposit' is used to refer to the cash balance as a whole.
When I asked the support agent about the minimum withdrawal he said that they changed it to €30, but hadnt updated their terms and conditions yet. This too is not fair. I understand that terms and condition can be changed. But reading terms and conditions, signing up, depositing and then finding out that the terms and conditions were outdated from the start makes me feel duped.
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Amount €20

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Based on submitter's last post AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is officially closed now.

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I have received the refund. Thank you for resolving this issue for me. I don't know if I have to do something to close this complaint, but it has been resolved succesfully.
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Good morning,

Just to let you know that the deposit has been refunded. Depending on your payment method, this can take a few days to reflect in your account.

Should you choose to come back, you will still be welcome at Spin Station and we would be more than happy to honour your Welcome Deposit Bonus.

Take care and all the best,

James
The Spin Station Team
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Hi again,

This in currently in process and will be paid back to your account shortly. I trust this resolves your query.

Best regards,

James
The Spin Station Team

Spin Station Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 19 / 20
Avg. Amount $2,962
Avg. Complaint Duration 8 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Hi,

I registerd yesterday at Spinstation (where it shows many options for deposit etc). And i saw it had MGA-license, so i thought ohh well must be a decent site. It took 1 second to deposit money with VISA.

After playing for a while i decided that i want to withdraw the reminding funds, when i got to "withdrawl" there is ZERO options for me. Is that even legal? Look attached picture. On "withdrawl method": it says "new bank information", BUT heres the funny part.. Spin Station has disabled bank transfers... It says in red text when you try to withdraw, meaning.. there is zero options for you to withdraw money. Attached picture with red text says bank transfer is disabled.

So.. Since there not a single option for me to withdraw money (but multiple when wanting to deposit LOL), i had to contact support. Support could not help me and told me i need to speak with the "accounting team" the next day or they could "escalate" the issue, but it would take 24-48 hours to get an answer. So i waited to the next day and contacted support again, this time support said accounting doesnt speak with customers. When i said bank transfer is disabled on their site, i was asked to wait 20 minutes for an answer. Then they wanted me to come back later to speak to a Norwegian and they closed the chat. After contacting support trough email, i found out there are two options Ezeewallet and LuxonPay (scam options? these two options does not even show up at their site and both apps has 10k downloads in Play Store.... with 10$ withdrawl fee to bank + takes 3 days). They wanted me to deposit even more money with LuxonPay or Ezeewallet then try to withdraw with one of these options? like wtf? Why would i deposit more money when there is zero options to withdraw it in "withdrawls"? This has been the utterly most worst times ive ever had at any site.
Status unsolved Unresolved
Purposely delaying verification process
Hello, I made my first withdraw on spinstation on 27-5-2017 and received a message for verification documents to send. I have send the documents the same day and in their terms it should take max 48 hours to verify the account after they received the documents. on 31-5-2017 early in the morning i received finally an answer that 1 document is older than 3 months and they need another. ( in the mail it said nothing about the 3 months rule, but okay i've send a new one right after it.) Every day i send emails if the verification is finished and everyday same respone "apologize for the delay" or "sorry we have a slight backlog" And this is not acceptable, if i don't follow their rules i have a big problem, but they can use these delaying tactics without problems. Every day i also ask in livechat why it take so long and everytime they say something else. "tomorrow they will get back to you" tomorrow the relevant department will contact you and you receive a notification that the account is verified" And today i received this response in livechat, "Thank you for holding. My accounts team has advised that one of our hosts has already escalated the account verification matter today and they are busy sorting the matter out with priority, we apologize once again for the delay but they were experiencing a slight backlog for the weekend passed. " But i don't believe them anymore, and hope you can help me to resolve this case. Kind regards, Steven
Status solved Resolved
€2,900