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9 years ago
So it's been almost a month since I've been dealing with this issue (since Feb-18), and everything started out like this. I found out about Royal Panda looking at other casino websites and I wanted to play in this site, I first tried cashing in with my debit card but it wasn't successful, so I asked for help directly with Royal Panda, and they told me that maybe I should use another payment method, so I did, I found out they manage ToditoCash payments which is a e-wallet site system made to purchase stuff online and use it for gambling sites. I got my first ToditoCash card and made 3 deposits, in total I made deposits for $2,200 MXN (pictures attached) and I tried getting $100 USD in Royal Panda, after the first attempt, Royal Panda showed a failed transaction but I got charged with the equivalent amount in my account which was $2,079. After finding out about this issue, I immediately contacted Royal Panda again to let them know and after like a week, they told me that they never received the funds and they couldn't trace them.
They also told me to let this issue know to my "bank" account, which is ToditoCash, and I did, I told them about the issue and they gave me a transaction number. They made themselves really clear telling me that once a transaction it's successful, their system gives them a number of transaction, if the transaction failed for any reason, I would get my money back and no transaction number would be thrown out.
ToditoCash is not really responsible for issues like this and they cannot give me a refund because their system still shows a successful transaction, and the only thing I could do was talk to Royal Panda again.
And I did, I gave them all the proof necessary and the documents they asked me for but yet they kept telling me the same thing, that should contact my bank/ToditoCash, so now it's a back and forth situation, but Todito cannot do anything else because for them, the transaction was, is and it is still showing a successful status, Also, they even made an investigation to see if it was possible to locate my funds and they gave me the same response for like 3 times already, the payments provider of Royal Panda has got my funds, so it now brings me up a question, is Royal Panda telling the truth? I'm kinda having second thoughts about their responses and I don't know if I should believe that their payments provider doesn't have the funds because it's still showing a successful status and in my ToditoCash account shows the details of the transaction (pictures attached).
I'm slowly feeling more and more desperate about getting at least a refund or the USD I paid for. Even after the investigation ToditoCash made, I cannot believe Royal Panda is not able to trace them or at least give me an estimated timeframe to when this issue will get resolved.
So it all comes down to this, ToditoCash cannot refund me because the transaction was successful and for them there's no issue but on the other end which is Royal Panda they seem like they never received the money and they also cannot give me a refund or the product I paid for, and they're constantly telling me to put in touch with each other, but I'm kinda taking the ToditoCash side because it is still showing a transaction made and there's no response from Royal Panda about it

Hopefully I can be heard and have someone to help me in this situation, I was not planning to make a complaint but I don't know what else to do, I feel like I got robbed.
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Disputed Casino Royal Panda Casino
Amount $2079

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User name
Based on submitter's last post AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is officially closed now.

Thank you all for your cooperation.
User name loyalty-level-2
Just logged in into my Royal Panda account and yes, I can confirm this, the deposit and the bonus are there.

Finally after all this time, thank you very much, I was so desperate and worried about those funds because for me it's kind of like a lot of money and it felt like I just lost it.

Thanks again for keeping up with this case and really looking forward to solve it
User name
Dear David Franco,

We have some good news for you. Our payment provider located your payment from ToditoCash.

The funds should already be credited to your account.

Thank you for sending us the information as it allowed us to resolve the issue.

We are very sorry for any inconvenience caused, and we hope you hit a good win at Royal Panda.

Have a Royal good time!

Best regards,

Royal Panda
User name loyalty-level-2
As requested, I sent the only conversation I had with ToditoCash, unfortunately I didn't save the past conversations I had with them and they cannot bring me such information because they keep all customer information like that in private, it is stated in their terms and conditions page.
But I just talked to them and saved this conversation that I already sent to the email posted on here, and I gave them the same information as before and they confirmed it is correct, please check it out.
And on a new update, they also told me that apparently, you guys sent me an email with the "solution" to my problem, but it is not solved yet, they told me that an email was sent on March 16, with this reference RYPUS8614281, and the solution was that you guys have made a deposit into my Royal Panda Account, I checked and it is still not there, and I asked for assistance directly on the site and they said this:

"Anna :
I apologize for keeping you waiting. May I kindly ask if you've contacted your bank with the findings you've received from Todito? I'm sorry, but our payments provider has confirmed that we haven't received your funds and therefore we recommend you to contact you bank in order to receive the explanation.
10:58David Muñoz:
Yes I did contact them. they asked for my card information, the amount charged in my account which is $2,079MXN for a $100USD purchase and they told me that RoyalPanda sent an email with that refference
10:59David Muñoz:
they said that I should've gotten my deposit back in March 16 and that if I didn't get it, that I should put in contact with you guys
11:01Anna :
Alright David. I will forward this information to the relevant department of our casino and we will contact you via email as soon as possible."

Royal Panda Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 59 / 65
Avg. Amount $11,859
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Proof of ownership of credit card

I am having an issue with Royal panda and their so called ' proof of ownership of credit card' document they require which must meet requirements as listed;

Proof Of Ownership

1) Upload a Proof of Ownership document, this is either a bank statement or a letter from your bank confirming you were the account holder. If you check your 'Card History' for a bank statement we would need to see the first 6 and last 4 digits, the expiry date, the bank's logo and your name.

OR

2) If your bank does not offer the option above, you will need to go to your local branch and ask for a typed Proof of Ownership document, on this document we will need confirmation that you were the previous account holder which also shows first 6 and last 4 digits, the expiry date, the bank's logo and your name - this document must be stamped and signed by your bank

I have uploaded multiple copies of bank statements as given in option 1 showing my name, address, card number that was used and even the transaction and dates that it was made, also a letter from the bank confirming I am the holder of the account but they keep rejecting all relevant information.

Please note these card verification documents they require have come after i have already made multiple deposits and MULTIPLE WITHDRAWALS... YES, THE CASINO HAS ALREADY WITHDRAWN WINNINGS BACK TO THE SAME CARD THEY NEED PROOF FOR?!?

I have contacted my bank here in my country asking if they even make such document for option 2 in documents they accept and they declined saying such documentation does not exist.

Now they have disabled the help desk for me and i am unable to seek further information and have disabled where I got to upload the documents that they require.

Status solved Resolved
$2,000
Missing Withdrawal from 15th October 2021

Hi AskGamblers,

Please assist me with this ongoing withdrawal problem that is now approaching week 19.

I've completed my first and only withdrawal from Royal Panda Casino on 15/10/2021 to my Visa Credit Card. After 5 business days I contacted my bank BNZ (Bank of New Zealand) to find out if they've received my international payment. My bank replied saying this:

"We have opted to discontinue accepting payments through this facility since 31st July, 2020. In line with the NAB Sanction Group Policy, we are making this change as part of our proactive approach to the detection and deterrence of sanctioned parties, jurisdictions and products which may have a connection to a BNZ product or service. Although this change means that international payments from some non-sanctioned merchants or countries are adversely impacted, it is the right thing to do to protect our customers and ensure ongoing compliance with our international obligations. As a bank, we must comply with all applicable laws in all the jurisdictions in which we operate. This includes requirements of supra-national organizations such as the United Nations and European Union.

Moving forward, all international payments will be received if they are sent using the SWIFT process. Details are provided on our BNZ website.

Any payments made to your Visa Credit Card on or after 31st July, 2020 would have been automatically returned to the sender. Since they haven’t transacted on your account, there would be no trace of their arrival or return on the BNZ system. We do not have visibility of instances where deposits have been blocked or whether it has been delayed for another reason. Only the merchant will have that level of detail".

I've contacted Royal Panda support via live chat/email on a weekly basis for the last 4 and a half months and I'm getting nowhere. I've provided them with everything they need from proof of where I live and where I work, driver's license, birth certificate, proof of income, bank statements to show I've never received my withdrawal, Letters from my bank to say I've never received my withdrawal, etc. etc. After providing the letters and statements from my bank they just keep sending me in circles never getting closer to resolving the problem.

Every time I explain to them my bank don't accept payments to Visa Credit cards anymore and that my bank has a policy in place to automatically return funds to the sender.. They say okay we will look into the matter but then weeks later they just email me saying the funds have landed at my provider. I then have to go through the entire process again to tell them my bank don't accept payments to Visa Credit cards anymore. My bank have no visibility into this as the transactions are automatically returned to the sender. I don't have access to the provider and my bank don't have access to the Provider. Only Royal Panda Casino can resolve this by contacting the provider and getting the withdrawal returned to my account so I can use another withdrawal method like SWIFT.

Please assist me AskGamblers.. Royal Panda Casino has no intention of resolving this dispute.

Here is the latest reply from them which I receive on a monthly basis.

  • Francesca (Royal Panda)
  • 3/02/2022, 3:59 GMT+1

Dear Lionale,

I trust this email find you well and thank you for contacting Royal Panda Support.

Kindly be advised that we have been in contact with your provider and we can confirm that the withdrawal of NZD 3,100.30 has landed on your provider's account with reference: ​

ARN XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

If you encounter any questions, you can be able to check with your bank/provider by using the above as a reference.

Thank you for your kind patience in this matter and I hope the above is useful.

Should you have any other questions please feel free to contact us.

We are available through live chat and e-mail. Myself or another agent will be more than happy to help!

Have a great day!

Best regards,

Francesca

Royal Panda, Customer Support

Status unsolved Unresolved
$3,100
5 months of No payment

Hi Team,


Can you help me get this issue resolved after 5months of no payment or help from Royal Panda?


I requested a withdrawal amount of 1000NZD on 04/04/2021. 1 week later I had no money in my account, I contacted Royal Panda and they told me the funds should be in my bank and to send in a bank statement, which I did and this was approved by them. I was advised a case was created to solve my issue and I will be contacted, I wasn't. After no replies to my emails I contacted RP via live chat and was told the reason my money hasn't reached my account was that in August 2020 the laws anti money laundering in NZ changed and they do not accept card withdrawals only bank transfers. I questioned why they still put it through my card in April 2021 when they were well aware that the law changed in August 2020. They couldn't give me an answer to that. After 3 months of trying to draw information out of RP they sent me an email with a ARN code of the transaction they supposedly sent and once again request a bank statement from me. I sent in yet another bank statement proving I received no money from them and I contacted my bank with the ARN code. My bank informed me that the ARN code is a SENDERS code and RP need to trace the money from their end from the bank they transferred from which they should have done from the very beginning instead of pushing it back on me to investigate for 5 months. Basically I'm still without my 1000NZD and would like to get this resolved so I can stop chasing them up for something they should have done 5 months ago.


I have attached bank statements, conversations with RP and conversations with my bank.


Please help.

Status unsolved Unresolved
$1,000