Confiscated winnings

Acelive Casino sent me an exclusive offer of 500 for 500 in the mail.

They sent after I lost before in their casino and they could see exactly how I play and my play style which was all ok according to their terms and condition.

I placed a risky bet with the 1000 I had and won big then I continued over 100 a spin all in their live roulette to complete over 40,000 in wagering and won 7000.

The bet at the beginning was a risky bet while the wagering bets were less risky but still on 12 numbers or less over 100 per spin which is still very risky.

It is not against their terms so they had to bring the "We reserve the right" well known bullshit.

Again, I say I played the welcome bonus exactly the same but they still wanted me back with an exclusive offer coming from the casino manager Gordon Allan.

These people will steal your money once you win and once you lose, avoid this deceptive operation.

Dear S

In relation to your membership on Ace Live Casino we have carefully studied your recent gaming activity and have determined that you are clearly not a recreational player but rather abusing our bonus offers for profit. Your wagering behavior is in violation of our Bonus Terms & Conditions, which you agreed to upon registering your account.

Below you can find reference to the term you violated:

11.1 All our promotions are designed for those genuine players who may be interested in continuing their membership and playing at the casino and are not averse to betting with and gambling their own money. Any and all promotion may be considered void at any moment to those persons or groups suspected of abuse or having a record of promotional abuse or fraud at Ace LiveCasino or with any of their merchant affiliates. Any winnings accrued by such persons or groups shall be considered null and void and shall be withheld.

In summary:

- You only deposit when there is a 100% match bonus available.

- After depositing and receiving your bonus you wager your entire balance on 1 or 2 spins of roulette in an effort to maximize a win with bonus funds. This is very unusual bankroll management for a genuine player and is classic behavior of bonus abusers.

- If you win your first few spins, you seek only to meet the wagering requirement at which point you request a withdrawal, profiting from the use of bonus funds.

Since May you have deposited €1,000 via Neteller and received €1,100 in bonuses. While playing our games you have made a €5,400 profit since May by abusing our generous bonuses and at this point we are closing your account indefinitely. We will refund your €1,000 of Neteller deposits so that you remain financially neutral. All further winnings have been voided.

I would like to say that we sincerely regret having to take this decision, which is not taken lightly but given the above transgressions we have no choice in order that we meet the compliance regulations stipulated clearly in our terms and conditions.

We have spent an extensive amount of time reviewing your activity and this decision is final.

Regards,

John < surname removed >

Ace Live Casino Senior Compliance Officer

I made a withdrawal on 30/04/2013! It's been 96 hours and I do not know if it was approved!

Dear Madam/Sir,

I played on AceLiveCasino.com. From 200 euros + 300 euros bonus, I made around 6300 euros.

When I tried to withdrawal the money they stated, that I am not a "recreational" player and they did not pay out any of my winnings, only my deposit (200 euros).

I received their e-mail:

"Dear Sir,

In relation to your membership of Ace Live Casino we have carefully studied your recent gaming activity and have regretfully determined that you are clearly NOT a recreational player.

Our Bonus Terms & Conditions have clearly been broken in respect of bonus abuse.

Below you can find our T&C related to bonus abuse:

11.1. All our promotions are designed for those genuine players who may be interested in continuing their membership and playing at the casino and are not averse to betting with and gambling their own money. Any and all promotion may be considered void at any moment to those persons or groups suspected of abuse or having a record of promotional abuse or fraud (charge-back transactions) at Ace Live Casino or with any of their merchant affiliates. Any winnings accrued by such persons or groups shall be considered null and void and shall be withheld.

· You made a €200 deposit and received a €300 bonus and waited until the bonus was credited before you started playing.

· Once the bonus was added to your account you bet the entire amount in one spin (€475 Third 1 – €25 ZERO) winning €925. The following three spins had similar bets leaving a balance at €2,935.

· From that point forward you started placing €40 bets in the Third 2 until the wagering requirements was met.

· As soon as you met the WR a payout request was received which we cancelled as for placing non-eligible wagers to meet his requirements.

· Once you were informed about outside bets being restricted, you started placing €4 straight bets in all numbers on the Third 2 until the WR were met.

· Once again, as soon as you met the WR you requested a payout.

Regretfully I must advise that this is NOT recreational gambling and therefore your winnings will be voided and your deposit returned to you.

Should you require any further clarification please contact me directly,

Gordon < surname removed >"

And I did reply for that, because what they state in their email is not true:

" Dear AceLiveCasino!

I would like to point out few things, that is missing from my gaming history and from the whole story!

"Once the bonus was added to your account you bet the entire amount in one spin (€475 Third 1 – €25 ZERO) winning €925. The following three spins had similar bets leaving a balance at €2,935. " - this part is true.

From this point I started to play on different thirds (not only one third!). Changing them based on my own style! I played 2-3 days. After a while I requested a payout. It was declined, I received the following e-mail on the 2nd of October 2012:

"Hello Tamas,

My apologies for the delay in coming back to you.

I have now had an opportunity to look at your game history and can explain the reason why your pay-out requests have been declined.

As you can see from our Bonus T&C’s – outside bets (Black/Red, Even/Odd, Low/High, Dozens and Columns) do not count towards the bonus wagering requirements of €20,000 ( €500 bonus x 40 )

I hope this clarifies the situation.

If I can be of further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards,

Gordon"

And on 5th of October 2012, I received the following e-mail:

"Hi,

For meeting wagering requirements purposes, only inside bets (straight bets, split bets, corner bets, line bets, etc) will count towards this.

Bets on columns, dozens, split columns, split dozens, even/odd, red/black and/or low/high will not count towards meeting the wagering requirements.

I hope this is all clear now but please email me if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,

Gordon"

Your e-mails were straight forward. I did not pay attention of the wagering requirements. At the time my account balance was around 5600 euro (from 200 euro!!). From now on I did use few times auto-play to meet the WR, because I want(ed) to know whether I will receive the money!!! The WR requirement cannot be seen on my account, that is the reason why I requested a payout. My purpose was to see If the payout works, I did not intend to payout my whole acount balance (I think it was 1200 euro out of 6000 euro).

"·From that point forward you started placing €40 bets in the Third 2 until the wagering requirements was met.

· As soon as you met the WR a payout request was received which we cancelled as for placing non-eligible wagers to meet his requirements.

· Once you were informed about outside bets being restricted, you started placing €4 straight bets in all numbers on the Third 2 until the WR were met.

· Once again, as soon as you met the WR you requested a payout."

I must highlight a sentence, it is my favourite. If I play on thirds, I cannot meet the wagering requirements!!!

"Once you were informed about outside bets being restricted, you started placing €4 straight bets in all numbers on the Third 2 until the WR were met."

And to be accurate, I placed only 11 out of the 12 numbers!

So these parts are NOT true! I gave my explanation on them.

If you see my whole (not only what you mentioned) game history, you can say that i am a RECREATIONAL gambler, who only want to see whether it is worth to play on your site (if I win: will I receive my money?) or not.

It seems like for me, that my big-time winning is the problem...

I would like to receive an answer for my e-mail!

Yours sincerely,

Székely < surname removed >"

So it was my response of their email, since then they do not reply at all.

It would be really nice if you could help on my case.

Yours sincerely,

Székely Tamás < surname removed >

I played at Ace Live some time ago and won around 1400 euro. When I requested a withdrawal, they locked my account and accused me of "systematic betting", which, as they believe, can be a reason to void winnings. They refunded my deposit and ignored my emails where I asked for further clarification and discussion of this matter.

The excuse they use is ridiculous and is of the type one would expect rogue fraudulent casinos to use. I clearly want Ace Live to return my winnings, what they are trying to do is just robbery.