11 years ago
After attempting a withdrawal from the banking section. i waited almost two weeks (id verification had been sent) with the banking saying the request was being processed. After constantly contacting (on my behalf only) the informed me that my winnings had been confiscated due to soething like excessive spins on bonus. im 100% sure i opted out of receiving deposit bonuses on this final deposit from which i won the confiscated winnings. New to this and absolutley gutted and devasted.
Disputed Casino
Lucky247 Casino
Reason
Declined payment
11 years ago
Don't tell me that you've answered all my questions.
What about the mystery email ?
Yes the request of a screenshot of the said email? .. blatantly ignored.
You can guarantee that I will be in touch with the relevant bodies.
Enjoy all the winnings that you snatched back along with all the other winnings taken from other clients of yours without fair reason (some of who i have already been contacted by).
I am currently in the process of building a blog where I shall be airing my nasty experience with your casino whilst allowing others to share their sorry experiences also.. We appear to have a considerable amount already..
I'd recommend that you ask a member of your customer service team to view the blog on a regular basis once it's up and running.. well I would, but clearly you don't have one!
To quote your favourite line..
"For ease of reference"
The blog will be headed UNlucky247
What about the mystery email ?
Yes the request of a screenshot of the said email? .. blatantly ignored.
You can guarantee that I will be in touch with the relevant bodies.
Enjoy all the winnings that you snatched back along with all the other winnings taken from other clients of yours without fair reason (some of who i have already been contacted by).
I am currently in the process of building a blog where I shall be airing my nasty experience with your casino whilst allowing others to share their sorry experiences also.. We appear to have a considerable amount already..
I'd recommend that you ask a member of your customer service team to view the blog on a regular basis once it's up and running.. well I would, but clearly you don't have one!
To quote your favourite line..
"For ease of reference"
The blog will be headed UNlucky247
Lucky247 Casino
11 years ago
• Representative
Hi
Further to previous posts.
We have responded to all your questions.
Should you feel you are wronged you may lodge a dispute with our Regulatory Body eCogra/ADR;
For your ease of reference see the below link.
http://www.ecogra.org/srs/policies_procedures.php
Kind regards,
Lucky247 Casino
4 March 2015
Further to previous posts.
We have responded to all your questions.
Should you feel you are wronged you may lodge a dispute with our Regulatory Body eCogra/ADR;
For your ease of reference see the below link.
http://www.ecogra.org/srs/policies_procedures.php
Kind regards,
Lucky247 Casino
4 March 2015
11 years ago
No more than i expected, just constant referrals back to the T&C's.
I see with interest you are unable to provide a copy of the email you claimed to have sent other than the printed details above which anybody could simply do.
I expect to be sent this FULL email with haste. Its not difficult, it should contain the date sent within. I doubt very much you will be able to send it as its quite clear it was never sent in the first place. I have contacted my email provider who has confirmed non- receipt of the email (on the date mentioned) you claimed to have sent and will provide written confirmation upon request.
Its clear to see that Lucky247 is incapable of displaying the most basic level of customer service skills. Unable to be considerate and deal fairly with a new client who (if had) made a mistake was not informed in the correct manner, infact not at all.
I would have expected an offer at the very least but not a chance. Instead, nothing more than a callous snatch back of my entire winnings followed by a complete lack of customer care... a fine advertisment for your casino dont you think?
There is no legal requirement as to your actions, as stated within your T&C's " at the casino's discretion"..
Here's your chance to make a difference, stand out and promote yourself from the vast majority of other casino's regestered to this site instead of pushing your members down the regulatory body route.
I shall await your reply.
I see with interest you are unable to provide a copy of the email you claimed to have sent other than the printed details above which anybody could simply do.
I expect to be sent this FULL email with haste. Its not difficult, it should contain the date sent within. I doubt very much you will be able to send it as its quite clear it was never sent in the first place. I have contacted my email provider who has confirmed non- receipt of the email (on the date mentioned) you claimed to have sent and will provide written confirmation upon request.
Its clear to see that Lucky247 is incapable of displaying the most basic level of customer service skills. Unable to be considerate and deal fairly with a new client who (if had) made a mistake was not informed in the correct manner, infact not at all.
I would have expected an offer at the very least but not a chance. Instead, nothing more than a callous snatch back of my entire winnings followed by a complete lack of customer care... a fine advertisment for your casino dont you think?
There is no legal requirement as to your actions, as stated within your T&C's " at the casino's discretion"..
Here's your chance to make a difference, stand out and promote yourself from the vast majority of other casino's regestered to this site instead of pushing your members down the regulatory body route.
I shall await your reply.
Lucky247 Casino
11 years ago
• Representative
Hi,
Thank you for your post.
In response to your questions, see the below for your ease of reference.
Why do you have to chase live chat to deposit without bonuses? shouldn't this option be available on the deposit page?
Upon Account Registration, you accepted our Terms & Conditions. Bonuses forms part of our Terms & Conditions you agreed to; therefore you need to request the removal of bonuses before commencement of gameplay.
Why did I have instigate all communication without reply once through this whole situation?
Our system is set to send mailers automatically; these are traced to have been sent on your account. This mailer also indicates the pending period which is used to confirm all necessary details before processing commences
Please can you send me a copy of the said email (that i never received) warning me of supposed irregular betting.
This has been sent on the 24 February 2015, see the below for your ease of reference
From: Support Central
Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:17 AM
Subject: Lucky247
To: [email protected]
Hi Steven,
Acc: XXXXX
Thank you for choosing Lucky247 Casino.
We have reviewed your gameplay prior to your withdrawal, upon review, it was found that you had breached the terms and conditions which you had agreed to.
Please see below for your perusal:
Point 19.9 : Before any withdrawals are processed, Your play will be reviewed for any irregular playing patterns. In the interests of fair gaming, equal, zero or low margin bets or hedge betting, shall all be considered irregular gaming for bonus play-through requirement purposes. Other examples of irregular game play include but are not limited to, placing single bets equal to or in excess of 20% or more of the value of the bonus credited to their account until such time as the wagering requirements for that bonus have been met. Should the Casino deem that irregular game play has occurred; the Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings.
http://www.lucky247.com/terms-and-conditions
In your case, your gaming activity had wagers equal to and over 20% of the bonus you received. This is calculated as the max stake = bonus x 0.2 ( 25x0.2 = 5 )
You had wagered more than 5 credits per spin leading up to your withdrawal.
As a result of this, your cashin has been confiscated and the original deposit and bonus ( 50 cash and 25 bonus credits) have been credited back to your gaming account so that you can try again on our site.
We hope this email finds you well.
Warm regards,
Dorianne
If you had sent an email regarding irregular betting.
Refer to the above response.
Why didn't you stop me depositing more cash on numerous occasions?
The gaming account is not affected by a requested withdrawal; therefore no gaming activity is hindered.
The max Bet Infringement email was sent after you have deposited why wasn't the account frozen?
The gaming account is not affected by a requested withdrawal; therefore no gaming activity is hindered. The gameplay is only reviewed after the withdrawal request has been received. In the event of a Max Bet Infringement, we notify players and reinstate the cash and bonus at the point of infringement to allow the user to continue to wager within our gaming terms & conditions.
As i work in IT. I can tell you both these options can be easily incorporated into your software.. almost as easy as sending an email, or making a phone call.
Our terms and conditions forms part of our Gaming Conditions, supplied by our 3rd Party Software Provider.
I understand you are disgruntled with the withdrawal confiscation, however we returned the deposit and bonus at max bet infringement to allow you to continue to wager within our gaming conditions.
We suggest you contact eCogra/ADR, who is our regulatory body, should you still have a grievance.
Regards
Lucky247 Casino
3 March 2015
Thank you for your post.
In response to your questions, see the below for your ease of reference.
Why do you have to chase live chat to deposit without bonuses? shouldn't this option be available on the deposit page?
Upon Account Registration, you accepted our Terms & Conditions. Bonuses forms part of our Terms & Conditions you agreed to; therefore you need to request the removal of bonuses before commencement of gameplay.
Why did I have instigate all communication without reply once through this whole situation?
Our system is set to send mailers automatically; these are traced to have been sent on your account. This mailer also indicates the pending period which is used to confirm all necessary details before processing commences
Please can you send me a copy of the said email (that i never received) warning me of supposed irregular betting.
This has been sent on the 24 February 2015, see the below for your ease of reference
From: Support Central
Date: Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:17 AM
Subject: Lucky247
To: [email protected]
Hi Steven,
Acc: XXXXX
Thank you for choosing Lucky247 Casino.
We have reviewed your gameplay prior to your withdrawal, upon review, it was found that you had breached the terms and conditions which you had agreed to.
Please see below for your perusal:
Point 19.9 : Before any withdrawals are processed, Your play will be reviewed for any irregular playing patterns. In the interests of fair gaming, equal, zero or low margin bets or hedge betting, shall all be considered irregular gaming for bonus play-through requirement purposes. Other examples of irregular game play include but are not limited to, placing single bets equal to or in excess of 20% or more of the value of the bonus credited to their account until such time as the wagering requirements for that bonus have been met. Should the Casino deem that irregular game play has occurred; the Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings.
http://www.lucky247.com/terms-and-conditions
In your case, your gaming activity had wagers equal to and over 20% of the bonus you received. This is calculated as the max stake = bonus x 0.2 ( 25x0.2 = 5 )
You had wagered more than 5 credits per spin leading up to your withdrawal.
As a result of this, your cashin has been confiscated and the original deposit and bonus ( 50 cash and 25 bonus credits) have been credited back to your gaming account so that you can try again on our site.
We hope this email finds you well.
Warm regards,
Dorianne
If you had sent an email regarding irregular betting.
Refer to the above response.
Why didn't you stop me depositing more cash on numerous occasions?
The gaming account is not affected by a requested withdrawal; therefore no gaming activity is hindered.
The max Bet Infringement email was sent after you have deposited why wasn't the account frozen?
The gaming account is not affected by a requested withdrawal; therefore no gaming activity is hindered. The gameplay is only reviewed after the withdrawal request has been received. In the event of a Max Bet Infringement, we notify players and reinstate the cash and bonus at the point of infringement to allow the user to continue to wager within our gaming terms & conditions.
As i work in IT. I can tell you both these options can be easily incorporated into your software.. almost as easy as sending an email, or making a phone call.
Our terms and conditions forms part of our Gaming Conditions, supplied by our 3rd Party Software Provider.
I understand you are disgruntled with the withdrawal confiscation, however we returned the deposit and bonus at max bet infringement to allow you to continue to wager within our gaming conditions.
We suggest you contact eCogra/ADR, who is our regulatory body, should you still have a grievance.
Regards
Lucky247 Casino
3 March 2015
Lucky247 Casino Complaint Stats
Resolved
56 / 70
Avg. Amount
$1,531
Avg. Complaint Duration
9 days
Avg. Response Time
3 days
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