5 years ago
My withdrawal requests from March 15 (€500) and March 16 (€194) are still pending. The live support says it "will be processed soon" whenever I ask for an update. Yesterday they told me that they "temporarily" can't process withdrawals which have been requested via Ecopayz and that I will have to wait a little longer. They said they would contact me via email but I didn't receive any email so far.
Explosino.com, I've already been waiting for 3 weeks. When are you going to pay?
lonnie
5 years ago
• 3 reviews
By no means this complaint can be considered resolved as long as the casino didn't pay the full amount.
I wouldn't have any objections if the fee was in a "usual" range between 1-5%.
But a deduction of 23% (!) of the withdrawal amount simply offends against any good manners.
Did I have a choice? No, the casino forced me to use Bitcoin.
Did the casino inform me about the fees? No, I was not informed about the fees at any point.
I wonder what understanding of right does one have to have in order to consider this complaint resolved.
I wouldn't have any objections if the fee was in a "usual" range between 1-5%.
But a deduction of 23% (!) of the withdrawal amount simply offends against any good manners.
Did I have a choice? No, the casino forced me to use Bitcoin.
Did the casino inform me about the fees? No, I was not informed about the fees at any point.
I wonder what understanding of right does one have to have in order to consider this complaint resolved.
Explosino Casino
5 years ago
• Representative
Dear All,
We paid the full amount, moreover, we paid for the processing of this transaction.
The percentage in question is the difference in the bitcoin rate and the external commission.
With regard to ecoPayz, withdrawal options depend on the processing company that processes the transactions as well as the license. In the screenshot you provided, the payout is from a casino operating under a Maltese license.
We are currently integrating new crypto-processing in order to make the payment process even fast and convenient for the client.
We are convinced that our obligation to pay has been met in full, because in addition to payment, we also paid for the processing of the transaction.
We leave the decision on the status of the complaint to the arbitration of the askgeblers resource.
Best Regards,
Explosino.
We paid the full amount, moreover, we paid for the processing of this transaction.
The percentage in question is the difference in the bitcoin rate and the external commission.
With regard to ecoPayz, withdrawal options depend on the processing company that processes the transactions as well as the license. In the screenshot you provided, the payout is from a casino operating under a Maltese license.
We are currently integrating new crypto-processing in order to make the payment process even fast and convenient for the client.
We are convinced that our obligation to pay has been met in full, because in addition to payment, we also paid for the processing of the transaction.
We leave the decision on the status of the complaint to the arbitration of the askgeblers resource.
Best Regards,
Explosino.
lonnie
5 years ago
• 3 reviews
Quote Explosino: "At the moment the withdrawal to a Bitcoin wallet is the only way for players from your region as the processing company does not process transactions on ecoPayz."
This is NOT TRUE! I received just today a withdrawal from Betinia Casino via Ecopayz, which is also a partner of AskGamblers. Please see attachment for proof.
Ecopayz ist still available for customers from my region (EU - Germany) and Ecopayz will confirm this to you!
Quote Explosino: "For our part, we confirm that we paid the full amount and could not know about the amount that will be credited to the client's wallet"
This is not the point here. The point is:
1) In the casino's logic, the processing company can charge whatever they want and no one can be held responsible for that. So where's the limit? If they charge 40%, it's still absolutely okay in the view of the casino? What about 50%? 70%? 90%? 99%?
2) It is NOT INDICATED ANYWHERE on your site that you charge 20-30% per withdrawal. When you deduct such a large amount of my withdrawal amount, you HAVE TO INFORM ME UPFRONT because it's a SUBSTANTIAL DEDUCTION!
3) The most important point here: YOU FORCED me to choose BITCOIN. It was not my decision! Initially I wanted to withdraw via Ecopayz but you forced me to cancel the withdrawal request and make a new one via Bitcoin.
If you force a customer to choose one certain payment method (again: there was NO ALTERNATIVE payment method provided to me!) and the processing company chosen by YOU deducts 23% of my withdrawal amount, then you have to compensate the loss.
This complaint will remain unresolved until you compensate the loss.
This is NOT TRUE! I received just today a withdrawal from Betinia Casino via Ecopayz, which is also a partner of AskGamblers. Please see attachment for proof.
Ecopayz ist still available for customers from my region (EU - Germany) and Ecopayz will confirm this to you!
Quote Explosino: "For our part, we confirm that we paid the full amount and could not know about the amount that will be credited to the client's wallet"
This is not the point here. The point is:
1) In the casino's logic, the processing company can charge whatever they want and no one can be held responsible for that. So where's the limit? If they charge 40%, it's still absolutely okay in the view of the casino? What about 50%? 70%? 90%? 99%?
2) It is NOT INDICATED ANYWHERE on your site that you charge 20-30% per withdrawal. When you deduct such a large amount of my withdrawal amount, you HAVE TO INFORM ME UPFRONT because it's a SUBSTANTIAL DEDUCTION!
3) The most important point here: YOU FORCED me to choose BITCOIN. It was not my decision! Initially I wanted to withdraw via Ecopayz but you forced me to cancel the withdrawal request and make a new one via Bitcoin.
If you force a customer to choose one certain payment method (again: there was NO ALTERNATIVE payment method provided to me!) and the processing company chosen by YOU deducts 23% of my withdrawal amount, then you have to compensate the loss.
This complaint will remain unresolved until you compensate the loss.
Explosino Casino
5 years ago
• Representative
Dear LONNIE,
At the moment the withdrawal to a Bitcoin wallet is the only way for players from your region as the processing company does not process transactions on ecoPayz. In accordance with the rules 8.4.4. If the payment system (temporarily or permanently) is available only for replenishment of the account, withdrawals will be made using alternative payment methods.
For our part, we confirm that we paid the full amount and could not know about the amount that will be credited to the client's wallet, because this is due to the exchange rate of the company that processes the payments. We can provide you with the transaction ID and contacts of the processing company so that you can verify that the withdrawal amount has been paid by us in full.
Best Regards,
Explosino.
At the moment the withdrawal to a Bitcoin wallet is the only way for players from your region as the processing company does not process transactions on ecoPayz. In accordance with the rules 8.4.4. If the payment system (temporarily or permanently) is available only for replenishment of the account, withdrawals will be made using alternative payment methods.
For our part, we confirm that we paid the full amount and could not know about the amount that will be credited to the client's wallet, because this is due to the exchange rate of the company that processes the payments. We can provide you with the transaction ID and contacts of the processing company so that you can verify that the withdrawal amount has been paid by us in full.
Best Regards,
Explosino.
Explosino Casino Complaint Stats
Resolved
21 / 25
Avg. Amount
$1,952
Avg. Complaint Duration
14 days
Avg. Response Time
2 days
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