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Dunder Failing Their Own Terms and Conditions Withdrawal Issue


5 years ago
I recently joined Dunder based on site recommendations as I searched. I was very Leary based on reviews, I had a couple withdrawals pending and they told me needed to verify so I did and was approved and everything seemed okay. So I deposited more and on August 23rd I requested a few withdrawals as when I am playing I’ll keep banking money if I am winning. Their site claims they try to do it within 24 hours and I’ve sent 6 messages now, with no réponse but generic auto message. As I have been waiting for my initial withdrawal on August 23rd, I was playing a couple games and over the course of the 23rd till yesterday I’ve accumulated $10,300 in winnings from typically 4 games I play. Their live chat is down, no one is responding, I’ve followed all the rules, none of this is bonus money, my first withdrawal seemed fast and communication was good, then to no reply’s , no live chat, no money as it still pending, who wouldn’t be concerned? This is all seeming very shady. I always take screen shots. I would like this resolved as I need to switch banks and close my current one I am using. This site is causing me stress and anxiety because they are not communicating but freely took my deposits.
Disputed Casino Dunder Casino
Amount $10700

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User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
Hello Richard,

Thank you for your reply and I’m sure your team will be happy to know that the funds have now been deposited into my account. So I will let ask gamblers do you know that this case will be closed and I am now satisfied That Dunder has proven but they can be trusted I am sure that you know that from your end but since 23 August it has caused me a lot of stress and lack of sleep because of the poor communication from Dunder side as I said from me being new to your site reading your terms and conditions.

I realize that it was just bad timing that the live chat was down and all my emails and messages Went ignored until I finally seen a message from Cosmo. Even in live chat No one really explained the process clearly and I had multiple different answers via email and live chat. I guess I was spoiled coming from a site that each night cleared out any with drawls after 12 AM each day and then the money was in your account within 1 to 2 business days however I thank you for clearing and explaining this to me so I have a better grasp of what to expect and appreciate your time in answering this thread and complaint.

I do wish however that the Dunder team had more consistency in their answers instead of feeling even more confused by the different answers I received.

All in all I do like the different choices of games on your site and hopefully moving forward I can now play with ease knowing that you are Legit and honest gambling site

Again I appreciate your time in answering me back and this case is now considered close and I’m very happy that all funds have been put into my bank account one day after the email saying your funds are on the way as was my experience on my First withdrawal August 16

Thank you Richard and have a good day are the best,

Sunny
User name
Hi Sunny,

I would like to clear up your answers as much as possible. Unfortunately, we do not have any Information in regards to your Account and will not be able to confirm if the withdrawal has been sent. However, I hope that the answers below will help to clear anything up.
Firstly, I would like to apologise for the longer than usual wait times. Our Chat was temporarily unavailable due to technical upgrades and therefore, the wait times for a reply went up as well. We are back open, so any questions can be answered through there.
A) For our CanadianPlayers, sometimes withdrawal are approved/ sent from our site but the payment provider will not change that status for 1-3 days. Once we have sent the withdrawal, it can take up 3-5 working days via Bank Transfer (if overseas it might take up to 7, but that is in the lesser amount of cases). Should you choose any other method, it can take 1-3 banking days.
If you get the confirmation that it has been processed, you will not have the option to cancel the withdrawal anymore, even when the status did not change.
Withdrawals being cancelled can have multiple reasons. Two of them might be that verification was requested and not provided within 7 days (it automatically cancels the withdrawal) or that the Bank Account details were incorrect so it could not be sent.
B) The processing of withdrawal can be delayed for multiple reasons. The most likely one is that verification is needed in the Account. Considering your explanation of depositing and withdrawing, this seems like the most likely one. An Email is sent to your registered Email address in regards to what documents are needed, we can also provide that Information via our Chat. Most often, ID, Address and Payment Methods used will need to verified. Other documents could also have been requested
C) Withdrawals are processed as per date/ time they come in as the relevant Team would not see them together for the same player but as single transactions. This could also mean that you have requested 2 deposits 2 minutes apart but they are approved 3 hours apart.
D) The withdrawal process is quite simple. You request a withdrawal and it will be in a List with all other withdrawals requested. They will be processed according to the time they come in, first come first serve. If your Account is verified, withdrawals will be processed quicker than when you have an unverified account.

Thanks
Richard
User name loyalty-level-2
I should re read my messages before I hit send, sorry for typo's very early am here :/

Dunder Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 35 / 48
Avg. Amount $11,359
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

Dunder Casino Complaints

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Withdrawals are being rejected
Good afternoon, I'm writing this letter to bring to your attention that I'm very dissatisfied with the sevrices of Dunder Casino.

I took part in one of their promotions on Dec 10th, won 2850, but the thing is that I'm still trying to get my funds out of there. My withdrawal is just being rejected again and again, and every conversation with live chat agents just go in circles.

At first, when my withdrawal was cancelled, I didn't even receive any email, I just logged in to check if it was pending, as it didn't reach my account, but noticed that it was returned back to my gaming account. I asked to enable skrill as a withdrawal method for me, but had no luck with that. I explained to their agent that my card currently doesn't accept direct withdrawals from gambling institutions, that is why I asked them to do a refund as they only allow to withdraw to bank accounts starting with GB. After that they requested a bank statement related to my card I used to deposit with, I sent that, they requested a deposit to their site to be visible, I did that too, but covered my personal transactions as I wasn't comfortable with sending my personal info. Finally I sent them the satatement with all transactions visible and they approved it. After that I had to explain to an agent again that their site allows to withdraw to GB accounts only and here they claimed that my deatils are wrong... What a surpeise to discover that my own banking deatils which I got from my banking app are wrong just because their site has issues. I explained that I'm using an international online bank, which is based in Belgium, but it can be used throughout Europe. After that I opened a GBP card on my side, becasue wanted to try that option, bank account details were still the same, but they didn't want to let me withdraw there too! After a chat they finally allowed me to withdraw to GBP account and this time they confirmed that my withdrawal was processed on their side. I was so happy that finally my time was worth it, however, my withdrawal wasn't coming, I contacted them again, and they asked for GBP statement, which I uploaded straingh away. It's been 2 weeks since I won that cash, I contacted them again and discovered that it was rejected, because it didn't show deposit to their site.... They adviced to withdraw again and promised to process it again, but it was rejected again.

It's been more than a month now, and we're still going in circles. Every time I contact their live chat agents I have to explain everything again and again, I'm already sick of it.

I will be very gald if you will look into this for me, and try to help me to get my honestly earned money.

Kind regards,

Marguerita
Status unsolved Unresolved
£2,850
Missing Withdrawal Still no resolution
I requested a withdrawal of NZD$170.00 on the 10th of November 2021. I received an email the same day saying that funds had been sent. I have yet to receive those funds.

I contacted the casino, was asked to provide bank statements which I did. They provided me an ARN number and requested me to ask my bank to track it.

My bank informed me via phone that they are unable to track using that ARN number, and explained that they would not no where to look from the start. Their suggestion which makes logical sense was that the sender should be able to track it as they have much better visibility from their end as it can be stepped through step by step as to where it has gone through.

I contacted customer service, and apparently me telling them what my bank had said on the phone was insufficient proof and they required written information to say that the bank cant track it before they will do anything.

Doing so delayed me a few days (we are now at the 19th of November) by the time I get the written confirmation of this. I am again asked to provide bank statements when I contacted customer service again.

From this date it has gone into a black hole, as of writing this complaint I have spent countless hours following up with customer service live chat, and following the directions of staff there who have told me to email my complaint. I did so on the 25th of November. I received an automated response saying my email had been received and it was assigned #475729.

I have yet to receive any further acknowledgement from this point.

I have had numerous conversations with customer service agents asking for follow up with the payments team, and what the status of the request 475729 is. I am given the same answer, they will tell a manager and still nothing happens. I am told there is nothing more that customer service can do and if I want to complain or say anything further, to email. Its a loop.

I have today forced myself to stay up late, into the early hours of the morning my time. I have now found out that the payments team have emailed the payment provider a number of times and have had no response from the payment provider.

Almost a month from the initial withdrawal request and we are no closer to any resolution. This is unacceptable.

I demand answers as what is taking so long, why there has been no further escalation if your service provider doesn't answer emails why has there been no phone calls, or follow up with the accounts manager at the payment providers site.

I also demand that my complaint, #475729 be looked into and resolved to my satisfaction.
I also demand an apology and an explanation of what went wrong here and how these issues can be mitigated going forward.

Finally I demand that my win be credited to my bank in the quickest way possible with interest.
Status unsolved Unresolved
$170
Lost deposit to my account, running in circles over CA$500

I won some money in early Oct 2021.

When I tried to withdraw, it was rejected after a few days. After much back and forth with them over this, I made a smaller withdrawal that I received without any issue. When I made another withdrawal of lesser amount, I received email that it was deposited into my account on Oct. 27th. After a week of not receiving it on my end I contacted Dunder multiple times, was given multiple different answers and eventually was given a ARN # , which I was told to give to my bank myself for them to track. I called my bank customer service, told them the problem and tried to give them this reference #, I was informed that they couldn't track what wasn't deposited and they had no idea what that # is.

It was suggested that I was probably being scammed. I then went physically into my branch this same day and was told the same thing by teller. I have been on chat with dunder many, many times and have emailed them several times. On chat I was told to track it myself with arn provided and all emails have been ignored thus far. I have been completely verified with them and provided bank statement showing I did not receive deposit email which was verified also. So to this date, I haven't received deposit or resolution to this issue. I did contact Malta Gamin Authority via email and was directed by them to file with ADR.

Before I do that I've sent Dunder another email today Nov 15/21 requesting resolution through their customer service and on here. I have chat transcripts about all of this I won 2000.00, I played back 900, withdrew 600 successfully and the 500.00 is apparently lost and I haven't received it.

Status unsolved Unresolved
$500
Payment delay and no contact from payment department
During the following date i processed 3 withdrawal that were successfully approved as the screenshot shows:
the date and amount of money to withdrawal was:
350.84$ the 12/10/20 at 9;47:22
200$ the 12/10/20 at 17:35:00
50$ the 12/10/20 at 17:34:00

As their website announces the money transfer should take no more than 5 business days. and here we are 10 days later never received the money at my bank account. Instead last time i contacted customer support i found the surprise that 250$ were back to my account at the casino.
I had never received one email from the casino letting me know what happened to my bank account that the money was bounced back at their end.
I complain to customer service about that subject at that moment and the agent informed me that they will contact me the next day.
I was trying to reach customer support 3 times via their website 3 days before without a response wondering why was this happening, and also by email and no response about that matter.

My other concern is that they only offer bank transfer to withdrawal money. I asked the customer agent why they have all those method to receive payment and they don´t pay back using the same. I recommended to use Interact because is fast and secure. and so far i know they are register at Gigadat interact gateway to receive deposit. And i believe it should work the same time in the opposite direction.

At the end i got frustrated and played the 250$ that went back to my credit at Dunder casino. Because Im afraid they are not going to pay me my money at all.
My only hope is that Askgamblers contact them and make somehow, the remain 350$ left go back to my account via interact. Paypal or bank transfer.

Looking forward to hearing back from you with good news.
Status solved Resolved
$350
Ignored permanently self exclusion under the same License MT SECURE
Dear whom may concern,

I was told that if I was self excluded on one of the casinos under the lisence of mt securetrade limited , I should of not been able to play on any of their casinos.

I was permanently self excluded on rizk casino (mt secure) on the 2016-11-24 23:38:22, and still am to this day.
This was also permanently and cant not be lifted at any time.
I have been able to play on dunder and depoist over £3000 , however I should of not been able to reopen my account with them as I was told by their live chat, that a permanently self excluded account can not be reopened however they did.

Both of these casinos are under the same license and dunder did not follow the rules and regulations,

I their for demand a full refund of all depoists made since the date of my permanently self exclusion on rizk casino under the mt licence which dunder also hold, as I should of never been able to reopen my account with Dunder as they hold the same licence.

I will attach print screens and emails from rizk which shows the information of my self exclusion + both details on both accounts are the exact same like the live chat confirmed it,

I give askgamblers full permission to check my data on both accounts.

Email is the same , name is the same, home address is the same and date of birth is the same , so they should of detected my account and not let me reopen it as the permeante self exclusion is under the same liscence as you can see from the email from rizk this can not be lifted at any time and dunder done this.
Status solved Resolved