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On the 31st of August, I opened an account and deposited £300 cash into it. Upon doing so, I was given a £250 'welcome bonus'

I carefully read all of the terms and conditions and made sure I was not breaking any of them. I got lucky and after completing the wagering completely by playing slots my balance was around £3500, which I requested a withdrawal.

I was asked for ID which I sent a pdf of my bank statement and also a copy of my passport.
I was told they couldn't accept online statements, so I scanned another recent statement I get by post and sent that too.
I was then told they couldn't accept this with the account number showing and to block it out and resend. I did as asked once again and then heard nothing from them. Assuming all was okay.

This morning 5th September I logged in my account to see my transaction showing as 'processed' but my balance £550. Upon clicking the withdrawal and looking further it showed they had returned £550 to me but confiscated almost £3000 of my winnings. After asking live chat why this was I was told I had 'irregular' playing patterns and this means they can confiscate.

They have returned my deposit plus the £250 welcome bonus so as quoted by them ' I can try again ' ?!!? Try again? What if I win again, they will just not pay still? If I lose, that is okay though.

I have had no correspondance informing me of this or any reasons why, I was only told when I asked live chat.

I attach the screenshot which mentions bonus abuse, non of which I did. I didn't do evens bets, no risk bets, I didn't bet more than 20% of my bonus. This would allow me to bet £50 spins. I did £10 spins and when I got lucky and won some I changed these to £20 spins (both fall WELL BELOW the 20% limit). I could quite easily have lost my entire balance during the wagering requirement.

Please also note, that whilst waiting for my withdrawal I have deposited and lost £1200 playing in the same manner, but this isn't classed as 'irregular' play, because I lost I guess?
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Amount £1800

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User name
Based on the last player's comment we consider this case as resolved and it is now officially closed.
User name loyalty-level-2
To update my situation.

I received an email from VIP at Lucky247 who agreed that I hadn't infact broken any terms and therefore shouldn't have had my money confiscated.

However, there is a term capping winnings to 6x the bonus. Lucky247 therefore agreed to pay me £1800 and this has now reached my account.

They also offered me a bonus as a goodwill gesture so I consider that this matter is now finally resolved.
User name loyalty-level-2

Again, as mentioned several other times...those terms relate to moving from LOW WEIGHTED games which are table games etc to HIGH WEIGHTED games such as slots.

I did not do this. I played slots which are high weighted games throughout.

Once again, your terms DO NOT state what you class as a low stake, so even though I moved from £20 spins to £14, this still does not break any terms whatsoever, you are simply making up what you deem to be a 'low stake'

As mentioned previously, £10 - £14 and £20 spins on slots cannot possibly deemed as low, and even so, you cannot have terms that are open to your own interpretation, they should be clear and state exactly what you mean. So as mentioned, not a single term has been broken.

Also, my initial big win was on £10 stakes on the Loaded slot, which I then increased to £20, hit another big win, and THEN moved to £14, so £14 spins is larger than my initial stakes. You seem to be consistantly failing to mention that I initially played £10 spins.

Frankly, it seems you are simply trying to get out of paying a player who won fairly. As mentioned before, I lost £1200 in the following days, which you have happily kept, this seems like a win-win situation for you currently. I am suprised you are willing to risk your reputation by not paying a player who won fairly.

User name
hi Susan,


Thank you for your post.

As mentioned in your earlier post, we deem irregular gameplay as where a player first bets high then low for the sole purpose of meeting wagering requirements.

In our email to you, we outlined where you at the time, wagered 20 credits per spins, during this time, the bonuses wagering requirements was still applicable. After a large win, you moved immediately to a lower wager, to sum this up, you reduced your stake to 14 credits per spin in order to meet wagering requirements. of the bonuses issued. That said,

As stated in our terms of the excerpt you provided:
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10.4 The following shall be deemed irregular betting for bonus play-through requirement purposes
(a) if a player has an active bonus and moves after winning from low weighted games like table games, to high weighted games like slots (or first bets high and then low with a stake not in proportion to the balance) for the sole purpose of completing wagering requirements;
(b) moving from a low weighted game to a high weighted game after large wins for the purpose of clearing wagering requirements

In other words, what is deemed as irregular gameplay above is both (a) and (b). In (a):
if a player has an active bonus and moves after winning from low weighted games like table games, to high weighted games like slots or first bets high and then low with a stake not in proportion to the balance for the sole purpose of completing wagering requirements

In your case, you reduced your stake by 30% in order to continue playing and to meet the wagering requirements of the bonus issued to your gaming account.

Unfortunately, due to the breach of the terms, the withdrawal has been confiscated and our policy in this instance is always to be fair by giving the player another opportunity to play within the confines of our terms and conditions.

We trust this post will find you well. Should you feel that you wish to pursue the matter further, you will need to follow our alternative dispute resolution process by contacting either eCogra or the LGA.

warm regards,
Lucky247 Casino Support

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Avg. Amount $1,531
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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