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Non acknowledging my self-exclusion request


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2 days ago I sent an email to support at Betvoyager asking to be excluded from their site, however my account is still active and I have received no reply from them. I emailed again yesterday to nudge them but again, account is still active. They have a phone number to call in their support section however it is an international number which would be very costly to call, and their 'online' chat is only through Skype which I do not have and am not about to download to my computer. I have also sent an internal email to support today through the sites messaging system.

This is really unacceptable behavior from a casino that states it adheres to the responsible gaming policy.
Disputed Casino BetVoyager Casino
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It seems now that their mobile version of the website has been closed. Attached is a screenshot from their page. Ask gamblers is there anything you can do?
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This complaint has been reopened as per submitter's request and AskGamblers Complaints Team would like to give it one more try and help both parties involved into the dispute reaching to a satisfactory resolution.

User name loyalty-level-2
A further update to this.

On the 1st I registered with betvoyager, played and lost a couple of hundred pounds. It was at that point I wanted to self exclude as I know I have an addiction (I’m barred from 99 percent of casinos and have used the blanket ban from gamblock) this casino wasn’t on the list.

When I searched the site for information on their responsibile gaming practices o was taken to a page that stated that A, to request deposit limits change, you should speak to support but it wouldn’t be actioned for 24 hours (that’s to lower your deposit limits) and B, for self exclusion request speak to ‘support’ team. This page had no contact information on it whatsoever. I was left to try and navigate the website again trying to find support. I found it on the menu and clicked the link, that’s where I found the contact for support: an international telephone number where international call charges would apply (not very fair) an email address: suppor­t@b­etv­oya­ger.com or a supposed live chat over Skype. I don’t have skype and can’t get it on my mobile, it seems odd that I would have to download a completely different app to speak to support. I chose the email addeas as that seemed the best way to contact them and save a copy of the email if there was any issues. I’m glad I did this.

I emailed them about 7pm on the 1st and asked for a self exclusion to be actioned as soon as possible. I added my username to be clear they had he right account.

24 hours later I had not heard back so I checked the site and was allowed to log in. I immediately emailed support again asking why it hadn’t been actioned and told them it was very important to do this as I had an addiction.

Again, 24 hours later, I had not heard back and checked to see if I could log in, and shockingly enough I could, it was at this point my willpower went and I deposited another £100 hoping to regain my funds (but also half knowing that had I won anything they may suddenly remember the self exclusion request) I don’t know why we do this as addicts as I know it doesn’t make sense, however, that’s why self exclusions are needed. Needless to say I lost again. This point I emailed for the 3rd time. I decided to try and find some other contact for them seeing as they completely ignored their support email address (however stating that support is the only way to utilise any of the responsibile gaming tools) I found a link that mentioned contacting admin to leave feedback and clicked on that which took me to why appeared to be an internal emailing system. I decided to send TWO emails to them via this system (where I could not retain a copy).

About 2 hours later I checked and I was then not allowed to log in. I received no email back, no confirmation, no pointers to gambling addiction care, no information about how long the account was closed (or even if it was closed or self excluded)

24 hours later (that’s 36 in total) I received a short reply from them. This is a copy and paste of what they said:

Hello,


Be informed that this e-mail address is not monitored 24/7.
That is why we have an internal message system at our casino, which is
monitored 24/7.
As soon as we received your message there, we closed your account.

There is nowhere on the site that says I must email through the internal system, just to email support and to use the email address stated that I used. I only stumbled upon the internal messaging system by chance.

I emailed back asking for them to refund my deposits that I played after the 48 hours had passed since I excluded. I mentioned that UKGC states that these requests must be actioned in a reasonable time. I don’t think 48 hours and 5 emails is a reasonable time.

I have had no more emails from them despite emailing them quite a few more times, I’ve also asked what their ADR process is. Nothing back at all. 1 email in 1 week.

I looked at their webpage today and it looks like they have been made to stop due to UKGC regulations. I don’t expect a response anytime soon so I would ask yourselves at askgamblers to step in and advise the best course of action.

I have screengrabbed the pages on the site where it points to their RG procedures.

Thanks
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BetVoyager Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 12 / 26
Avg. Amount $6,686
Avg. Complaint Duration 4 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

BetVoyager Casino Complaints

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Declined payment 136624 euro
Good afternoon. I want to inform you that Betvoyager casino refused to pay me 136624 euros !!! On February 19, 2019, I made 50 Euros on my deposit at Betvoyager casino and started playing Euro roulette for one number. My decision was to bet on the number 2, since I played on my system in one number and the number 2 is just my favorite number. Starting with a minimum bet, I saw a frequent fall of the number 2, so I decided to gradually increase the bet. As a result, the rate reached the maximum value of 200 euros per number! The game lasted about 4 hours in a row. Accordingly, my deposit began to grow at a high speed and reached a value of 136624evro! I have screenshots of my game that I recorded during the course of the game. Of course, it might seem incredible to you to win such an amount, but what about bets on a maximum of 200 Euros per maximum?
  For my part, the game was fair and I did not use any programs and bots against the casino during the game. There were no crashes during the game. I played from a regular smartphone. After long correspondence, Betvoyager answered me: "Our security team has diligently checked and examined your games. It was concluded that there was an attempt to disrupt the RNG, and use a substitute program to generate a specific number in favor of the player.

In lieu of this and mathematical laws of probability, our security team deemed this to be impossible mathematically. As you understand, there can't be a number that keeps showing up hundreds of times while other numbers show up in a range of 10-30 times in a long game session.

We play only with honest players who do not try to find weaknesses in our system and try to exploit them. Our fairness control is for the player to know that we are honest, not for the player to try to rob us. Therefore your account is blocked. The results of your games have been nullified. Your initial deposit before you started to play is in your account, and we ask you to please created a withdrawal request for tat money so that we can process it and return your funds ". The situation when" 2 "often falls and the player in it betting more and more can not be considered fraud. Therefore, I demand to pay me my winnings soon!
Status unsolved Unresolved
€136,624