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Confiscated £500 due to unjustified accusations, won't listen to my explanation nor provide any details


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By Jack B.
8 years ago
I was playing on slotty vegas on Thurs 25th January. I very simply placed £500 of cash balance on Blackjack and won, giving me £1,000 balance. I didn't have any bonus active on my account.

Last night I received the following email:

"Hi Jack,

My name is Daniel, a member of the Risk team here at SlottyVegas Casino.

I am writing to you regarding your recent gameplay at our casino leading up to your withdrawal of £1000. Upon going through our standard pre-withdrawal checks, we have identified that your gameplay contains evidence of bonus abuse.

Due to this we have forfeited your winnings of £1000 and will be refunding your deposit of £500 within the next 72 hours. Your account has been permanently closed and your email address removed from our mailing list.

Regards,

Daniel
SlottyVegas Risk team
"

Daniel hasn't provided me a reference to which term I have supposedly broken, or anything other than 'bonus abuse'. To be clear again, I was playing with my own cash funds and there was no bonus active. There was an obvious error here. I had previously opted into a promotion whereby the casino would give me £125 back on my losses on Blackjack. I assume this may be the reason for the confusion and Daniel believes the winnings came from this bonus. That is incorrect, the winnings entirely came from a single cash bet in Blackjack. However trying to explain this to Daniel isn't working...

I have been on live chat with Daniel who won't enter into any communication with me. I have asked him to provide me with my full gaming history, which he has refused and has repeatedly stated to take this matter up with the relevant ADR.

No casino has any right to confiscate a players own cash winnings, and so I demand that slotty vegas return my winnings of £1,000 to my bank account.

Thank you for taking the time to read this complaint and I trust that you will exercise your power to make slotty vegas pay out what is rightfully mine.
Disputed Casino Slotty Vegas Casino
Amount £1000

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AskGamblers Complaints Team have been provided with clear and undisputed evidence on behalf Slotty Vegas Casino management that player committed fraudulent activity and violated their Terms & Conditions #12.4, #10.3:

12.4 Some other practices of playing behavior may lead to the casino withholding bonuses and/or confiscating all winnings, however should the casino in its course of operation discover such practices, they will be added into a specific example list.
10.3 The casino reserves the right to suspend your account pending investigation in the event of the casino having reasonable grounds for suspecting that you have been involved in any form of collusion, syndication or fraud. We also reserve the right to withhold the whole or part of your account balance, close your account permanently, as well as recover from your account the amount of any winnings, pay-outs or bonuses which have been affected by any of the following activities:
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As a player who makes use of this casino, you agree that you are not attempting to collude, nor intending to participate in a collusion scheme which involves the sharing of winnings between players, sharing of funds, or working together toward mutual end goal while benefitting from multiple incentivised offers, to the detriment of other players whom are not involved in the colluding party. You also agree that you will inform the casino should you suspect a player to be colluding, or planning to collude with other players. You also agree that you do not form part of a syndicate or group that engages in advantage play strategies.


Moreover, during the complaints process it became clear that player deliberately withheld sharing certain facts referring to their complaints case with the AskGamblers Complaints Team where some of these facts were of crucial importance for having the case adequately investigated and reaching to fair and justified conclusions.

AskGamblers Complaints Team maintains zero tolerance towards players who are deliberately withholding from mentioning facts of key importance, trying to abuse our complaints service and not using it in a good faith, therefore we took the decision to reject this case and to ban player from using our services in the future.

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I would also like to point out that nowhere on Slotty Vegas' terms and conditions does it ever say it reserves the right to confiscate cash winnings. If I had won from a bonus which shouldn't have been awarded to me, then by all means you would be within your rights to confiscate that.

It's not my fault your website gave me the cashback bonus even though I won the Blackjack bet (which I lost anyway).

You have absolutely no right to steal the winnings from my £500 blackjack bet.

I place my full trust in the decision made by AskGamblers regarding this matter to restore my faith in online gambling.

Jack
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All relevant documentation has been sent to Ask Gamblers team for their review.

Regards,
Karl
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Hi,

Let me make it clear that I am very happy for AskGamblers to mediate on our dispute, however the purpose of my previous replies was because I believe you are attempting to make this case more complicated than it really is. Nothing gives you the right to steal cash winnings straight from a card deposit on your site.

It's important that those reading this are very clear on what happened, while (as I believe) you try to misconstrue the truth.

Jack

Slotty Vegas Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 25 / 26
Avg. Amount $2,106
Avg. Complaint Duration 4 days
Avg. Response Time 1 day

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Withdrawal of €2,500 still not received since January 12th

I requested two withdrawals at Slotty Vegas casino as far back as the 5th January 2021.

Due to verification issues and then issues withdrawing onto a credit card, my withdrawals were gradually processed on 12th January 2021. This is shown in my payments history on Slotty Vegas website. I have attached a screenshot showing this.

My withdrawals had to be split into two seperate payments (2500 Euro is the max withdrawal you can do in one transaction on the site.) So I requested two separate withdrawals, one for 2500 Euro & one for 700 Euro's. These were both requested as bank transfers, and were both requested using identical, exactly the same bank details. Same number, same account, same name, same swift code etc.

January 14th an email was received from Slotty Vegas confirming payment of the 2500 Euro Withdrawal to my bank account. Jan 22nd an email was received from Slotty Vegas confirming payment of the 700 Euro Withdrawal to my bank account. Both emails I have attached.

Despite the 700 Euro withdrawal, being processed 6 days after the 2500 Euro one. I received this money in my bank with absolutely no issues, 4 days later on the 25th January 2021. it took only 4 working days to arrive, which is standard timeframe I find for bank transfers here in New Zealand. I have attached a screenshot of my bank transactions showing the 700 Euro arriving via bank international transfer from 'Maxtent Limited'. ($1136 NZD which is what I was paid converts to roughly 700 Euro)

As of todays date, which is 7th February 2021, I still have not received the 2500 Euro withdrawal. This is despite, it being processed before the 700 Euro one, back on January 14th. 24 Days ago now.

I have been regularly emailing Slotty Vegas on almost a daily basis, asking for updates and for them to clarify where the 2500 Euro is? At first they kept telling me to be patient, and would give me times frames /dates to wait. Again I've attached all email correspondence for you to read through.

On Friday 29th January, Slotty Vegas emailed me telling me that they had received confirmation from the payment provider that withdrawal was processed, and they were 'certain' the funds would show in my bank within 24-48 Hours. This was not the case. Email Attached

On 31st January 2021 Slotty Vegas emailed me confirming they had entered the correct bank details and that the 2500 Euro withdrawal was definitely paid into same bank account as the 700 Euro one I received. I was also told to wait a further 36 Hours. Email attached.

On Feb 1st 2021, Slotty Vegas emailed me again, this time again confirming payment being processed and they were 'quite sure' money would be with me soon. And that a bank tracer has to organized.

My final email back was received on Feb 4th 2021. I requested that Slotty Vegas reprocess this withdrawal ASAP, as obviously something has gone horribly wrong here. I also requested they also show me proof of withdrawal, and that they can prove they sent it to the correct bank account/ bank details

The reply I got said they will not be reprocessing and they now have to wait for funds to return to there account before they pay me again. I have still not received the proof of payment I requested, which I wanted so I could show you when I raise the complaint. My major concerns here are It's now been 26 days and I still have not received the 2500 Euro withdrawal. I am also concerned that Slotty Vegas have not made the withdrawal correctly, since the 700 Euro withdrawal was processed smoothly without any issues or delay

I'm also concerned this could drag on for weeks/ if not months, If I have to wait the the money to return to there bank. As far I know they could have processed incorrectly, as someone else has my winnings.

My final concern in no-one I speak to whether in live chat, or by email has an idea how to solve the problem, and no-one can give me a timeframe. It seem to be forever changing, and its like they are waiting for the funds to miraculously show in my account 1 month later?

I am more than happy to give any more evidence you require. Please ask if you need anything else from me.

I just want to receive my 2500 Winnings, as its now getting to close to a month since I first requested.

Any help greatly appreciated

Ryan < surname removed >

Status solved Resolved
€2,500
Fabricating excuses to confiscate legitimate winnings

I live in Estonia, I am aware of some gambling restrictions, some websites restrict me from access and some allows me. I joined Slotty Vegas and selected Estonia from the drop down. I deposited 3 times in the first week and lost, in the second week i deposited and run my balance upto €2000 and cashed out. At this point Slotty Vegas closed my account and said I used a VPN, I did not use a VPN, i don't know how to. So I've told them its a mistake and prove it and they refuse to.

I used an affiliate to join called Classybeef, I spent many hours watching their Twitch Stream and they heavily promote Slotty Vegas on the Channel. So when i asked them for help Espen from Classybeef told me the case is closed because i am not allowed to play at Slotty Vegas due to "Government Rules in Estonia". Yes its a tricky subject for Online Gambling here i Estonia but sometimes its ok and I've successfully played and won at other online sites. There is nothing in Slotty Vegas terms to say I was not allowed to play, and like i said they have Estonia in the drop down selection upon registration. Other country's are not available in this dropdown like the UK for example but Estonia was. I explained Slotty Vegas allowed me to deposit 4 times in 2 weeks, and they made the decision, not my Government, to close my account and offer me just one deposit refund. They took the decision to allow Estonian Players to join. Why do so if its a problem? Espen said I must of used a VPN to get around the Government restrictions but this is not true, my internet provider allowed me to access the Slotty Vegas.

I have to question Slotty Vegas intentions to have Estonia in the drop down if they believe the Government doesn't want you to play. I also am concerned about Classybeef who receive 40% in commission on anyone's losses who they to refer to any Casino. I trusted Classybeef but for Espen to just say Slotty Vegas is allowed to keep my deposits and winnings because i shouldn't be playing but they let me play is absurd. I also question how Twitch allows these slot streamers to gain massively from these channels with direct deals to the Casinos they are promoting but thats another story. Hopefully you guys here can look into this and make things right.

Status solved Resolved
€2,000