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Hello, according to the Pamper FAQ’s “Due to verification process for your security and ours, first time withdrawal request can take up to 10-14 business days to be processed.
For any further withdrawals, they are usually processed within 24 – 72.” Also, on the Pamper site, “Deposits and Withdrawals” page the banking methods are listed as follows: Visa/Mastercard (Instant), entropay (Instant) and Money Transfer (0-3 days). I made Steve Wood(s) aware of this and he said that it was for deposits only and that he would have the site updated (I have an email from him). I decided to try Pamper Casino. I used a bonus and met the play through requirements. I contacted the Chat Line and was advised that I met all of the play through and that I could either continue wagering or since I was eligible, I could request a withdrawal. I did request a withdrawal on 4/17/16 (QPE-312-72226). I received an automated response, on the same date, confirming the receipt of my ticket. And was informed that one of the agents would get back with me as soon as possible. I was also notified in the same email that I could check on the status of that same ticket by contacting the following link: http:/­/su­ppo­rt.p­am­per­cas­ino.eu­/Ti­cke­ts/­Tic­ket­/Vi­ew/­QPE­-31­2-7­2226. When I had selected that link, I received an error message that the link was not valid. I contacted the Live Chat line to make them aware of this. I had also completed all of the corresponding information from Pamper for eligibility of my withdrawal and received a response indicating the following: Your request has been received. We have received your request and will get back to you with further details shortly. You can login to the support center or check your mailbox for further updates. Overall, since 4/17/16 I have been going back and forth via Live Chat lines and emails with Pamper about receiving my Withdrawal. Also, I received an email from AC Casino providing me with a different Ticket ID while addressing my initial Withdrawal (LUL-322-45295). I received yet another Ticket ID from AC Casino (MGP-480-78668) regarding the same matter. Please note that I ONLY submitted 1 Ticket (QPE-312-72226). All of my correspondence since has been via the Live Chat line and emails. I asked why I was being given so many ticket numbers and no one could answer me. I have been dealing with someone named "Steve" who has been beyond RUDE and condescending to me. Also, Steve had replied to me in an email dated 5/13/16 - "There might be a delay in making a payment to you on the first round as we have a number of real depositing players who have priority when paying. You will receive payment, but only after depositing players are paid in the queue first." In a different email to me from Steve, one the same date 5/13/16, Steve replied, "As we have other clients already ahead of you in the queue, I would expect you would receive your first payment towards the end of next week. I will be in touch with you next week to let you know when the first payment is sent.".... Please note that it is 8 days later (5/21/16) and I have not heard back from Steve. I had also sent Steve an email yesterday (5/20/16) requesting an update and he has not replied to that either. I have gone onto the Live Chat line over a dozen times, to no avail. I have chatted with Jen- P, Victor S, Tiffany and Steve (just to name a few). No one seems to know anything and each (except for Steve) have promised to make their supervisor aware of my frustrations. I have also received email from a Steve Wood and also Steve Woods of Pamper Casino and I find this quite strange. I have copies of ALL of the Live Chats as well as ALL of the emails from Pamper, AC Casino and Steve. I have tried numerous times to reach out to them, to no avail. I have also contacted my attorney and was advised to make a formal complaint such as this in hopes of resolving the matter, to try and avoid contacting the United Kingdom Gambling Commission, etc. Can you please respond to me as promptly as possible? My initial quest was to try out Pamper Casino and if I enjoyed it, I had planned on making some deposits (as I have at several other Casinos). But now I am concerned that they do not care for their customers and have absolutely no empathy and extremely poor customer service. I have been waiting since 4/17/16 to receive my withdrawal. Lastly, this is one of the last emails from Steve (after he told me that after I am paid, I am no longer to play on the site): From: Steve Woods
To: chrralph
Sent: Fri, May 13, 2016 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: Payout Request
Look, I am not sure why you have added so many people to the email list. I am the only one who can help you. I am the boss so no need to send multiple emails to other departments.
At no point did i mention affiliates.. an affiliate is what you came through to enjoy your free chip.
Secondly, I will pay you when we have the space in our queues to pay you. I will not give you any kind of pay dates and your demands do not work on my end. We give free chips as a way for players to come try out our software. So I hope you have fun taking your non depositing accounts to any other place.

I apologize for the long rant and will be more than happy to attach all of the emails and chats between Pamper Casino, AC Casino and Live Chats.

Sincerely,

Charlene
Disputed Casino Pamper Casino

Discussion

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AskGamblers Complaints Team have been provided by valid evidence on behalf management of Pamper Casino where it is clearly displayed that player had claimed three different bonuses from three different websites. Player by these actions violated general term #13:

Promotions and bonuses are there to reward our valued players ? We have a zero tolerance policy on bonus abuse and fraudulent activity. We reserve the right to block bonuses from any player who we deem to be abusing our promotions. If fraudulent activity or abuse is suspected, we reserve the right to remove bonuses and associated winnings from the account and any associated accounts.

The determination of what constitutes bonus abuse shall be at the sole discretion of Management. Management will be considered evidence of bonus abuse shall include, but not be limited to, the following examples:
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Playing welcome bonuses listed on forums or websites in which our players have not signed up from. Example: Players signs up from www.somesite.com and takes a deposit bonus but then redeems welcome bonuses from www.othersite.com . In this case any bonus and winnings will be forfeited and the account will be closed.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In a case of a disagreement with our decision we remind the player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant licensing authority responsible for Pamper Casino.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team have been in a direct communication with Pamper Casino management.
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I assume that you are referring to the very last (and most recent) email that I have received from Pamper Casino Management (dated 7 days ago - yes that is more than 3 days ago as you put it). It appears as if you have reconsidered. And I see that you have given this issue an entirely Different Ticket Number (usually that means that you are simply delaying the processing of payments), but I do not know for certain. Please correct me if I am wrong:

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamper Casino - Management
To: chrralph
Cc: steve ; steve ; steve ; kevin
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2016 11:16 am
Subject: [#ZWP-850-70780]: Fwd: Payout Request



[email protected],

Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your ticket. One of our agents will get back to you as soon as possible. For your records, the details of the ticket are listed below. When replying, please make sure that the ticket ID is kept in the subject line to ensure that your replies are tracked appropriately.

Ticket ID: ZWP-850-70780
Subject: Fwd: Payout Request
Department: Management
Type: Issue
Status: Open
Priority: Default

You can check the status of or reply to this ticket online at: http:/­/su­ppo­rt.p­am­per­cas­ino.eu­/Ti­cke­ts/­Tic­ket­/Vi­ew/­ZWP­-85­0-70780

Kind regards,

Pamper Casino


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Please review the email that was sent to you more than 3 days ago.

Pamper Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 67 / 86
Avg. Amount $746
Avg. Complaint Duration 25 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Still didn't process payment after more than 14 months!
Hello, together, sorry first for my english. Now I wait since over 14 months for the payment of my real amount from $ 3,190.71. I had opened the first ticket in the 9/22/2015 #YQG-876-48484. All desired document and conditions were fulfilled. I have communicated several times and about several months with the live chat and have asked for the reasons of the payment delay. Also by email I have written up the accountancy and the management several times. The answer was always with too much work and I should give myself no troubles. see here: Jen- P Support Agent Good Jen- P Hello B. How may I help you? B. hello have you news for me? Jen- P no , no yet B. why? can you tell the problem? Jen- P I don't have access there is not a problems a just delays we have a lot of customer with the issue delays we have to wait B. 4:18 pm sorry, i'm waiting soo loong 4:19 pmthis is no reasen Jen- P i know they are working on your request ' you need to wait B. how long?聽Read Jen- P I don't know soon date 29.07.2016 Then in the 6/8/2016 the nice Mrs. Angel of the live chat informed me after consultation with the accountancy Mr. Steve Woods that I get the payment that very same day, so in the 6/8/2016. Shortly after Mr. Steve Woods writes an email to me: Hello, I am looking into your account and want to make sure that we get you the best service on any payout you might want. I know there is some confusion in terms of taking a bonus and then cancelling it. I want to make sure you get the maximum amount of payout possible. Please allow me a little more time to get your account straightened out. In the mean time I need you to send in a copy of your ID and a copy of a utility bill. The process with the verification was concluded at least one year before. And I had transmitted all documents several times. After I contacted pressure on the Pamper casino raised and other several times the Support, the Pamper management in the 10/21/2016 wrote an email. In it the Manangemt refuses the payment with the grounds that I have taken up a bonus. However, this is right generally. I have not claimed a bonus at no time. Only one other excuse is to be refused around the payment, how the whole time. Moreover, one can infer from the Hardcopy that it concerns real amount and a bonus was not taken up. The new management of Pamper Casino must prove that it is serious and my amount pay.
Status unsolved Unresolved
$3,190
Delayed payment for over 10 weeks
Ticket was first submitted in request of payment on September 5th for $650, I received Immediate automated reply. This is my first withdraw from Pamper, as such I submitted the requested documents with my ticket. Their conditions suggested a wait of 10-14 days for verification. On the 23rd September I requested an update. On the 24th September I received first a response telling me my ticket was being reviewed, then on the same day another message to tell me that they were ready to process payment and I could choose between money gram or western union, I would receive payment in $300 amounts each with a $50 fee. (my request was to be payed by neteller, one of the available options when I filled out my ticket). On the same day (24/9) I replied that I would prefer neteller, but if it was unavailable I would accept western union, and gave my bank details to process the payment(s). On the 6th of October I received a message telling me Neteller would be unavailable for about 2 weeks, and offering me withdrawal with upaywallet. On the 8th of October I replied that I did not want to open an account with Upaycard, and that at this stage I would wait the approximately 2 weeks for Neteller (I realise this may have been a mistake) On the 28th of October I requested an update Having not had a response on the 8th of November I requested an update via email On the 8th of November I received an exact copy of the message received more than one month ago (6/10) neteller will be available in about 2 weeks etc.. On the 9th of November I replied that the copied message has not reassured me, and informed them that I would allow one week to make me feel confident that they would be resolving my case, at that time I would seek help to recover my funds. 18th November, no response, complaint made with Askgamblers At this stage I believe that I have been very patient and polite with all my correspondence, but now after 10 weeks I have very little confidence that my case will be resolved without help. Geoff.
Status solved Resolved
$650