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5 years ago
On July 12th I registered at VoodooDreams and on July 13th was asked to verify my account and then to allow them to conduct an affordability review. This was after I had asked for my account to be closed. I also on this day requested a withdrawal of £2001. To date I have provided the security team with
- a photo id
- a selfie with the photo id
- a utility bill to verify address
- front and back of bank card used for payments
- permission to verifiy my account via Creditkudos link provided by the security team at Voodoodreams on July 13th. The acknowledgement of this is attached.


I provided all of these by July 15th. On July 23rd I received another request for bank verification with another link to creditkudos.See email attached. I again completed this - attached -and still have heard nothing. I have had several conversations with live chat and email support all fobbing me off and telling me to wait and that they can't assist and i have to be patient. I can provide transcripts of these chats if required.

The latest was today July 31st - 18 days after the withdrawal request was made.

I am quite shocked at the poor service and delays with no reason given. I hope you can help.
Disputed Casino VoodooDreams Casino
Amount £2001

Discussion

User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
Thank you .The withdrawal has now been received and I have no further comments.
User name
With all necessary docs now in hand, the withdrawal should have been processed. Kindly inform us as soon as you have received your funds.
User name loyalty-level-2
Yet again Voodoo dreams are trying to discredit me by stating I have not complied with their requests. On August 24th August I received the following email from Voodoo Dreams security.This was the first contact since August 7th.





Voodoodreams UK Security
Aug 24, 2020, 7:20 PM (7 days ago)
to me

Dear xxxx

I hope you are well, and in the very best of health at this time.

Please accept our sincere apologies for the delay in our response, and we thank you for your patience throughout the verification process.

We do appreciate that this is a rather lengthy process, and can cause some frustration, however, our very rigid licencing requirements in conjunction with UK and EU financial law dictate that we must conduct a thorough verification for each player account at any stage of their gaming with us.
Each player is informed of this in the "Welcome" email that is received upon registration. Within this email, we advise each player that each player account will be subject to verification, and that the money you are using to gamble is coming from legal sources.

In order to complete the verification process we must request the following document:

- Proof of your Source of Income - such as a payslip, pension letter, income tax return. This document must have been issued within the last three months.

- Bank statements showing the source of the following transactions:
13 Jul 20 xxxxx
13 Jul 20 xxxxx
We thank you once again for your patience and cooperation throughout this process.

Please be advised that due to the duty of care, we have permanently excluded your player account and please note this feature applies cross-brand. Therefore, you will not be able to access any other accounts on other brands/sites owned and operated by SuprPlay Ltd. We would also ask you to refrain from attempting to open any other accounts as this may result in forfeiture of any funds deposited or gambled.

If you feel you may need assistance with your gambling, we would like to recommend you to visit the following pages and seek advice from these independent organizations:

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Besides these, we would like to recommend you to register with GAMSTOP, the online self-exclusion register available in the UK. GAMSTOP lets you put controls in place to restrict your online gambling activities by self-excluding you from all licenced operators in the UK, for a period of your choosing. For more information, simply follow the link here: https:­//w­ww.g­am­sto­p.c­o.uk/.

Finally, we would also recommend that you contact any other casinos you may have registered with so they may also permanently self-exclude you and ensure you do not gamble with them as well.

Wishing you a restful evening, and a pleasant week.

Regards,
Lisa
Voodoodreams UK Security
securi­ty-­uk@­voo­doo­dre­ams.com

I replied with the requested information at 4.44pm on August 25th.I have heard nothing since from Voodoo Dreams. I contacted live chat today - the conversation shows that I have sent the requested documents

Site: https:­//w­ww.v­oo­doo­dre­ams.co­m/e­n-gb/
2020-08-31 10:33 AM CEST
Transcript ID: bGSxoV­9Ub­QiM­Xip­Z3n­6pb­0O0­tfJ­ble5r
Your recent chat with Julian
You
Withdrawal verification

Julian
Hi xxxx
Could you please confirm your emailaddress, so I can access your profile.

You
xxxx

Julian
Thank you very much, please allow me one moment, whilst I check with your account.
Unfortunately there is no update yet, but we will contact you instantly once we have something new for you

You
When was the last time you received documents from me

Julian
as far as I can see 5 days ago, but I cannot access all the emails since the verification department has their own inbox

You
Ok thanks


I am not sure how to proceed. I have been excluded from Voodoo dreams and their other casinos which is strange as I closed the Voodoo Dreams account on July 13th and have no interest at all in their other casinos. I am still owed £2001 .

VoodooDreams Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 28 / 28
Avg. Amount $5,935
Avg. Complaint Duration 6 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Verification issue continually delay withdrawal

Dear ASKGAMBLERS team,

I am writing with the hope that you will be able to assist and help to sort out my outgoing issue.

The issue is related to the verification and withdrawal process.

I opened the account and made 3x deposits with Voodoo Dreams casino (registered as SuprPlay Ltd, operates as NYspins & Duelz Casino) end of May (please see the attachment - File1).

Deposits made: £717.5; £153.75; £1486.25 (also visible on statement - refer to File1)

I was extremally lucky, and I won a big amount of money - straight after that as a responsible player I requested a withdrawal of £25 000. Up to this stage, Voodoo Dreams never asked me to provide any verification documents and was happy to accept my deposits and allowed me to play.

The next day when I went on a live chat to chase for my withdrawal - the support team advised, me to do not to worry as withdrawal takes up to 48h. After this conversation, my pending withdrawal has been returned to the account balance (please see the attachment - File2). I have been shocked that the pending withdrawal has been returned to my account, as I am aware as per new UK Gambling Commission regulations any player's pending withdrawal can’t be returned to the player’s account. As the winning amount was huge and I was afraid to start gambling again, I decided that I need to stop my gambling activity, so I went to GameStop and self-excluded myself (please find the attachment - File3).

After this stage, the biggest "fun" begins.

I received an email with the request to provide more documents (File 4). Please be aware that previously I provided/uploaded all the requested documents directly to Voodoo account.

Please see all the attached files I provided to the casino (files 5-10) - apparently, all provided was not enough to verify my account. Then I received a further email from Voodoo with the request to explain almost every single transaction on my bank statement (please see the attached File-11). I appreciate that the request to provide my payslip and source of funds is reasonable (I highlighted to Voodoo several times that my deposit has been made by using funds that I won in another casino - perfectly visible on my statement).

I have been extremely concerned that Voodoo started to request documents and data related to 3rd parties.

Thankfully my friends and family members have been very supportive and agreed to share this personal and sensitive data - I sent over all requests to Voodoo Dreams (please see attachments Files 12-22). Voodoo came back with confirmation that my source of funds has been approved, but they still need more documents to be provided. Voodoo has kept asking about transactions from Limited company - I explained that back in January 2023 I loaned some money to my mother's cousin, and it's been highlighted that there was no official loan agreement signed (legally you don't need an agreement if loaning money to friends or family) and all been based on trust and agreed verbally (I never had any interest earned) and at this stage (20/06/2023) loan is fully repaid. Voodoo told that a signed letter from the owner of the Limited company with his ID is not enough for them and they requiring to provide a backdated signed and notarised loan agreement (please refer to File 23). We had a conversation with a notary and solicitor - they confirmed that this letter should be accepted as a legal document, and they weren't able to understand the concern of this request. We are not happy go to the notary and backdate the loan agreement for the loan which today is fully repaid - especially since there is no legal requirement for that.

That's not the end of the story, Voodoo also requested my uncle's legitimacy of the funds - my uncle has been happy to provide his tax returns for the last 2 years (Files 24-25). Apparently, it was not enough to prove my uncle's legal income - please be aware that I highlighted that my uncle has been sending money to me using his personal money/savings.

I am extremely confused about how all this requested data/documents related to my verification or withdrawal.

In my personal opinion, I provided enough documents to verify my account (even 3rd party data has been submitted).

At this stage, it seems that Voodoo is delaying and overcomplicating verification just to hold my legal win. I am extremally concerned that there is no one who can control and make sure that Voodoo is not exceeding authority.

ASKGAMBLERS please help me to sort this out and get my legal win as I am losing hope.

I hope as many players as possible would see my case and will think before depositing to Voodoo Dreams.

It was not the first time I won in the casino, but never had such a horrible experience, Voodoo is doing everything to overcomplicate the verification and keep my funds.

Status solved Resolved
£25,000
Troubles with verification and withdrawal

Dear Ask Gamblers Team,

Gladly I stumbled upon this website :)

Here is factual situation relating to VoodooDreams which is both regarding a withdrawal request and verification.

I joined VD back in March 2022. My first visit resulted in a circa £2k loss - money I was fully expecting (and could afford) to lose. I decided not to play again until more recently - 2nd May 2022 to be precise. It was Bank holiday weekend and fancied a go on the slots.

I decided to try VD again to see if the slots were in a better mood! After depositing £100, I got lucky and hit a £1750 return on a slot. This is where the issues started.....

On 2 May 2022 I made a withdrawal request for £1550. It started the process and stated pending withdrawal within my account details. Fine.

On 3 May - I contacted Live chat who stated that the deposit would be processed (today) and I should expect funds by 4 May 2022. Nothing arrived.

Within the same chat they asked if I had sent in my verification information to which I responded No but would do immediately.

I uploaded my ID and my proof of address (utility bill) and a redacted bank statement to the verification area with no issues and the first two items were verified by the following day.

I then received an email from the VD verification team (5 May) stating: “we will require some additional documentation.

With regards to your XXX bank statement, as you have hidden most of the transactions, we are required to see deposits done with us to understand the source of funds, whilst also assessing your affordability with us moving forward. Therefore, please send us an unedited bank statement showing deposits done with us, whilst also showing your bills, and rent/mortgage transactions as we need to assess your affordability.

I promptly uploaded a unredacted version of the bank account. Off the back of this, I decided to offer up further transparency of my account via Credit Kudos as they also stated this within their email:

“We also use open banking for this, should you want to opt-in, please have a look below.

Bank verification – Instead of a bank statement, you may verify by bank verification. Please follow the link below, login to your online banking by choosing the bank account where you receive your monthly income and the one which you used to deposit on our website. This is a safe and secure way to verify your banking details with us and it grants one-time, read-only access to your transactions and banking information (such as your name and bank account number). Please note that this process is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority.”

This was processed on the same day (5 May) and received confirmation (5 May @ 15:18 from CK that all was successful.

At this juncture still no funds from the withdrawal and account operational.

On 7 May I emailed verification and support asking for an update on the process.

On 8 May I receive this – which is duplicate of the snippet I posted above:

I hope this E-mail finds you well,

I am sending you this E-mail today as you have not managed to verify your account in the given timeframe. Your account will now be blocked until your account has been verified. I have listed the documentation again for your reference if you wish to consider re-opening your account in the future.

The required documents are the following:

Salary - A recent payslip and a matching bank statement showing the salary being credited to an account in your name. Please submit the documents in the original PDF or paper format.

Bank verification – Instead of a bank statement, you may verify by bank verification. Please follow the link below, login to your online banking by choosing the bank account where you receive your monthly income and the one which you used to deposit on our website. This is a safe and secure way to verify your banking details with us and it grants one-time, read-only access to your transactions and banking information (such as your name and bank account number). Please note that this process is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority.

All documents will be checked and handled safely by our security team. For any questions regarding the verification, you may contact our customer service via live chat.

Thank you for your cooperation.

On 8 May I politely respond to the email asking the following:

“I’m sorry, just for clarity, you are stating you have not received either the payslip or the statement (uploaded to portal 2 May) and denying that the Credit Kuros report (generated 5 May @ 15:18) is in your possession ??”

I then receive another duplicate of their previous response above...

Now at this stage, I’m none the wiser aside from them telling me my account is now blocked.

By keep sending me the same request doesn’t answer the question/s. Why were the original “under review” uploads not good enough and in addition (which I didn’t have to do) wasn’t the CreditKudos report reviewed – something that was provided to them by a third party at their (VD) request.

I know (sometimes) technology fails but by me manually uploading the requested documents and them acknowledging receipt within my account and stating ‘under review’ plus them receiving the CreditKudos report, that would leave no verification outstanding. My source of wealth via my payslip and detail within my statement confirms all they want to know.

In summary – I have provided ALL documentation requested. I have complied with ALL requests and have been complicit and very reasonable throughout what has been a very frustrating process. The above is a correlation of the facts.

Outcome:

1. In light all documents have been provided, I would expect verification or source of wealth checks to have been completed or at a minimum to be completed within the next 24 hours – this after all is an internal process out of anyone’s control from outside of VoodooDreams.

2. I would like the ‘winnings’ for the amount of £1550 processed to my chosen payment method as per the withdrawal request and for this to be concluded once point 1 (above) has been finalised.

Status solved Resolved
£1,550
Delay in Payment of Withdrawals

Dear Ask Gamblers Team, 

I opened an account with VoodooDreams Casino on 29th July 2021 making a deposit of £1,000. I was fortunate enough to win £11,500. I proceeded to request withdrawals of £5,000 and £4,000 on 29th July at 9:45pom and 9:47pm respectively. I received an email at 10:19pm requesting ID documents which I duly provided. On 30th July I requested a further withdrawal of £3,500 bringing the total requested withdrawals to £12,500. Voodoo Dreams then sent me a further email on 30 July requesting source of funds documents which I sent in on 3rd August. 

Voodoo Dreams state their verification can take up to 48 hours, on 5th August, as it approached 48 hours since sending in the documents, they informed me that my case has been escalated further for review. I waited another 48 hours however there was no response. I then enquired with customer services daily for an update as to when my withdrawals will be processed as I have given them everything, however it is now 4 days on since the additional so called escalation and their customer service can provide no further update other than "We guarantee the team are looking at your case and they will reply as soon as possible" each day that passes. I have sent emails to the team that were in contact with me before but they have not replied for 4 days now. 

I only deposited £1,000 not thousands and yet because I profited by £11,500 , I feel they are stalling on paying me out given they fail to approve the withdrawals with each day that passes without providing any reason. I am deeply concerned given the similar complaints of delayed withdrawal payments against this operator on Ask Gamblers from other customers. 

It has been 10days in total now since I requested the withdrawals of a total of £12,500 and nothing seems to be forthcoming apart from excuses daily hence it clearly feels I am being given the round around. 

I would appreciate your assistance in getting this matter resolved so I can move on from this Casino.

Thanks

Status solved Resolved
Delayed Payment of €3633

Honestly, I've read lots of bad reviews from VoodooDreams before signing up. I tried my best to not be biased because of course if some does not have any problems they will not write about it online. I have to say, I am utterly disappointed with their service. I had a nice win of €3633 and made sure my verification was settled before withdrawing, so I would not run into any issues, I made my withdrawal and right away I got an e-mail that they required a selfie with me holding up my ID. Understandable... I replied right away with the right documents. One day passed, and I went on to the live chat and I got confirmed that my verification is completed and the security department is checking it out.

My withdrawal was on the 21st of February, and it has been almost a 10 full business day and still is not closed to resolved. I find it funny that the customer chat agent also had the audacity to ask me if I would like to cancel my withdrawal and keep on playing? Ah, right! That's why I was contacting the chat because I am not interested in getting paid out.

What's also funny is their current T&C, (5.6. The time for a withdrawal request to be finalized may vary due to circumstances, however a withdrawal attempt should be approved or denied within a maximum of five (5) business days, from the date by which you have submitted all requested documentation. For your protection, you may only withdraw the maximum amount of Euro 100,000 (or equivalent in your chosen Account currency), per month, unless a larger amount has been agreed by us.)

It has been well over five business days and my withdrawal seems to be far from finalized, I can't say much good about them. I've played at tons of casino's and have tons of comparison material, I know this is not the way to act as a casino.

Status solved Resolved
€3,633