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By George
11 years ago
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Dear AskGamblers.com,

VideoSlots.com / Panda Media have decided to close my account in a very abusive manner: telling me things which are not real and refuses to cooperate on finding some satisfactory solution no matter what countless proofs I bring to show how wrong they are towards my situation so I feel I have no choice but to bring my issue to the large public with my try to obtain my account re-enabled. For the record, there is no money involved in this dispute.

Now let's get to the facts:

1) On 16th July 2015 1) VideoSlots.com informed me via Jennifer P. live chat agent that my account has been closed because after a discussion with Neteller the Finance Department concluded that I was abusing Neteller Points System.

2) I am copy-pasting point 2.9 from VideoSlots.com Terms & Conditions which read: "2.9 A player may withdrawal as many times as he wishes as long as the thresholds are always exceeded. If a player withdraws more than once in a 1 day period a processing fee of €2.5, $2.5, £2.5, 25kr shall apply. All withdrawals with normal bank wire are free of charge regardless of how many times he wishes to withdraw per day."

3) I am also copy-pasting a VERY RELEVANT chat transcript which I had with VideoSlots.com live chat agent Carl A on 6th July 2015:

"16:41 Constantin D.: I have deposited €858 and wagered exactly €858 on blackjack. If you count splits and double downs, then yes I have wagered much more than my deposit.
16:42 Carl A: I understand. There will not be a fee on your withdrawal. :)
16:45 Constantin D.: Thanks for confirmation. So the minimum turnover required is to wager the deposit in full, as per initial wager, in order to be considered sufficient game play for a free withdrawal?
16:47 Carl A: You are most welcome. Yes basically that is how it works. :)"

Please note that I have been in contact with Neteller myself and it has confirmed me that I conducted all my activities in a fair manner according to Neteller's Terms and Conditions and I've never been in breach or abusing any terms or benefits that me as a VIP player enjoy. (I can save Skype conversation with my Neteller VIP manager as a proof, but nobody contest it.)

And my Neteller VIP manager also told me that Alexander Stevendahl from VideoSlots.com informed Neteller that my VideoSlots.com account has been closed at VideoSlots.com will "due to deposit and withdrawal abuse".

Also please note that while VideoSlots.com / Panda Media terms & conditions EXPRESSLY allow for more than one withdrawal per day (up to €10,000 per single withdrawal), and I have only asked for a single withdrawal daily (around €2000) and I was not playing with any bonuses. And I have always wagered in full (and even much more) the amount deposited before requesting a withdrawal. So I have always respected all Terms & Conditions of both VideoSlots.com and Neteller.com and all policies.

SO VideoSlots.com first time accuses me of Neteller Points-System abuse and after I prove them word from Neteller that I have conducted my gaming in a fair non-abusive manner from Neteller's point of view, VideoSlots.com comes to say that I was actually abusing deposits and withdrawals system of VideoSlots.com

OK, as I see it, the word "abuse" is something that cannot have a clear definition but is rather something to the acceptable limit (although still not breaking any rules, terms or conditions clearly spelled out). So when VideoSlots.com allows for unlimited deposits and withdrawals per each and every day up to €10,000 clearly spelled out in their own Terms & Conditions, it now comes to accuse me of deposits and withdrawals abuse in conditions that I never had more than one (€2,000) deposit and one (€2,000ish) withdrawal per 24 hours after giving them generous rollover wagering (much) more than my deposit amount?!?

Also if possible, on this occasion I'd like to know how AskGamblers.com see this whole situation: say I was registered at VideoSlots.com via AskGamblers, so if my account remains closed AskGambles lost one loyal customer who was inevitably generating some constant commissions by playing at this particular casino. - How is this VideoSlots.com decision welcomed towards casino and affiliate relationship?

Sorry for the long post and Thank You in advance for any help.

All the Best,
PlayHunter
Disputed Casino Videoslots Casino

Discussion

User name
We consider this complaint unresolved. Casino management didn't provide evidence to back their statement. We recommend to the player to seek further help with a licence authority that issued casino's licence.
User name
Hi PlayHunter,

Every time you deposit and withdraw via Neteller, you earn VIP points at their site, we have to pay processing fees to to them, which also affect Askgamblers commission on their players they have referred to us. Let’s say you deposit 50,000 eur and withdraw 50,000 eur and we have to pay 3% on that, while you only wager 10,000 eur and gone break even. This would have cost us and Askgamblers as your affiliate 3000 eur in fees to Neteller. If everyone would do this, we would make losses on all our players and would have to close down. That is why this behavior is classified as “abusive” and due to our policy your account was closed for that reason.

Best regards,

Philip
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Hi Everyone,

AskGamblers.com I think it's crystal clear VideoSlots.com lack of cooperation and abusive behavior towards my account. I agree they have the right to select customers, but not to give out false reasons and when I clearly show they are the ones in the wrong they still reject any amicable solution.

And by their decision to close my account surely they also hurt the affiliate I signed up through because that affiliate will no longer receive the commissions for my constant loyal play at VideoSlots.com - On this occasion, I would appreciate if AskGamblers.com can express their view on how is this VideoSlots.com decision welcomed towards the affiliate and casino relationship?

Other than that probably there is nothing more to be said, people can read the whole story as it happened and decide fore themselves who was abusive towards who.

I propose this complaint be closed and marked as unresolved since the casino has failed to present any evidence of my abusive behavior (other than "they think so" and a few couple of false statements) and also rejected to cooperate on all the amiable solutions I proposed.

All The Best,
PlayHunter
User name
Hi PlayHunter,

We reserve the right to close an account without an explanation which is stated in our Terms and Conditions. However, we think that your behaviour is abusive and that is why we closed your account.

Best regards,
Philip

Videoslots Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 37 / 42
Avg. Amount $1,686
Avg. Complaint Duration 8 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

Videoslots Casino Complaint Summary

Most user complaints about this operator fall under the Payment category.
So far, 21 out of 25 complaints in this category have been resolved.
This operator's average complaint duration is 8 days, while the average duration across all operators is 8 days.

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Casino error in a customer manual payment

Videoslots made a manual international payment to me of £14.40 on August 5th 2024. However, they did not detail all the correct Swift/IBAN information on the transaction. My provider Barclays traced the transaction and said as Videoslots did not input the correct information, then it was sitting in limbo and needed to be either re-called or have additional information sent to it in order for Barclays to re-direct it to my account.

On informing Videoslots of this and also using RESOLVER, they seemed unable to understand the situation and all their replies to me were along the lines of " Our provider has informed us the payment was paid and there is nothing else we can do"

After numerous correspondence to Videoslots telling them what Barclays needed them to do I got nowhere, so Barclays then returned the payment back to them ( something they don't usually do but tried to help Videoslots out)

As of October 26th, Videolsots have informed me there is nothing they can do and the payment was made on August 5th, even though myself and Barclays have tried to walk them through step by step what has happened and what they need to do.

I find the whole saga very tasteful and the ignorance of Videoslots very disapoointing. I know it is only £14.40 but the principal of the matter has now gone way beyond that for me. They do not seem interested in solving a mistake that they created and have constantly put the ball in my court to solve it with numerous telephone calls to my Bank.

Barclays has told me that this practice from Videolsots is appalling behaviour. A very helpful guy from Barclays Investigation Team tracked the life of the transaction to where it is now. It was returned to CitiBank ( Videolsots ) as a payment with insufficient information a few weeks ago. I have given Videoslots the reference number and they still will not act on it.

it is my belief that Videoslots have now washed their hands of this and are wanting me to just give up and go away. Please do not let them get away with this, it is only £14.40 I know, but the ramifications of the little punter being outgunned by the big casino disgusts me and I am trying to fight for others who may be victims of this activity in the future.

Status solved Resolved
£14