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By cndns
7 years ago
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I made 200e deposit to 18bet last Friday (3.5). I first got bonus after deposit, but I forfeited it before started playing, so I had 200e real money and no bonus on my account. Then I played blackjack and got 750e winnings and decided to withdraw them.

Withdraw was pending-status 5 days, and now I got e-mail that my account has been closed and remaining funds have been forfeited. The message I got was this:

"Dear xxxx,

We are reaching you to inform you that our Anti-Fraud Department detected that your IP address is already in use by another account.

You may refer to the "Player Registration & Deregistration Process" section in our Terms & Conditions:

"3.8 The player’s account must be registered in his/her own, personal and correct, name and personal details. The individual has to ensure that all data given at registration stage is true, complete and free from error. This therefore also means that the player has to register personally. Furthermore, a player can only have one account. Any other accounts which a player opens with Shark77 Limited, or which are beneficially owned by the player shall be considered as duplicate accounts. We shall close any duplicate account/s consequent to the identification of the main account. If we close a duplicate account, deposits will be refunded, and all bonuses, free bets and winnings acquired from such promotions using that duplicate account will be void and forfeited.If the amount in the duplicate account does not cover the amount to be refunded to us, we shall seek to recover the loss incurred directly from any other of your accounts."

Here is a link for reference: https:­//w­ww.1­8b­et.c­om­/en­/pa­ges­/te­rms­-an­d-c­ond­itions/

In accordance to our policy your account has been closed and all remaining balance has been forfeited.

Yours,
18bet Team"

I have usually used my own home internet or mobile internet when I have playing in 18bet. Sometimes it is possible that I have been logged to my account when using workplace internet. I am sure that no other player have used my home or mobile ip and if have been logged workplace internet I don't know if someone else would have opened account in there.

However I have just one account and I don't know any other account opened with same main IP I use. My document verification was very slow process in 18bet and I have sent many documents, but got finally my documents approved. Then I have got withdrawals few times after slow prosess. Now I have made 200e deposit, got fair winnings without bonus and made withdraw and they just decide to take them.

I am sure I haven't used any dublicate accounts or broken rules ( I haven't any desire to break rules), so I want get my winnings I have deserved. After that it is up to 18bet if they want keep my account open.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf 18Bet Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

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I still have no idea who is the account id '173113', is it possible to get name?

'VEGAS' is regular Friday bonus which I have used, SHUFFLEUP was Tuesday bonus, I have used these just once per week as allowed and I don't know who the other user is. I can't see any link with my account. Could you tell when this 'IP-match' have been appeared. It is impossible that someone else would have created or played in 18bet account via my home IP.
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Dear AskGamblers team,

Following your request in regards to providing further evidence for a relation between customer CNDNS and the other account please refer to the attached screenshots. Both accounts’ users participated in same bonus campaigns during the same time. In addition find below detailed information concerning both bonuses’ T & C as well as site’s full General terms of use:

VEGAS T & C - https:­//w­ww.1­8b­et.c­om­/en­/pr­omo­tio­ns/­pro­mot­ion/345
SHUFFLEUP T & C - https:­//w­ww.1­8b­et.c­om­/en­/pr­omo­tio­ns/­pro­mot­ion/344

More specific:
“14. Registration and participation is allowed only once per person, family, household address, email address, payment account number, IP address and shared computer, i.e. Public library or workplace. Bonus will be refused to players who do not comply with this term and multiple accounts will be closed (Please, refer to General Terms and Conditions – Duplicated accounts policy). We reserve the right to withdraw the availability of any offer and to reclaim all bonus and winnings money accumulated by any customer or group of customers at any time and at our sole and absolute discretion.”

“18. General Terms and Conditions apply.”

General T & C - https:­//w­ww.1­8b­et.c­om­/en­/pa­ges­/te­rms­-an­d-c­ond­itions/

Point:
3.8 The player’s account must be registered in his/her own, personal and correct, name and personal details. The individual has to ensure that all data given at registration stage is true, complete and free from error. This therefore also means that the player has to register personally. Furthermore, a player can only have one account. Any other accounts which a player opens with Shark77 Limited, or which are beneficially owned by the player shall be considered as duplicate accounts. We shall close any duplicate account/s consequent to the identification of the main account. If we close a duplicate account, deposits will be refunded, and all bonuses, free bets and winnings acquired from such promotions using that duplicate account will be void and forfeited. If the amount in the duplicate account does not cover the amount to be refunded to us, we shall seek to recover the loss incurred directly from any other of your accounts.

If any further clarification is need please let us know.

Best Regards,
18bet team
User name

Dear 18Bet Casino,

Allow us to remind you that as per AskGamblers Casino Complaints Service /AGCCS/ Terms all the information exchanged with our complaints team is strictly confidential and it is not disclosed with player and/or any other third parties.  

AskGamblers Complaints Team would also like to use the occasion and inform you that when it comes to the privacy issues, users of AskGamblers Casinos Complaint's Services agreed on our next Term:

  • You authorize the AskGamblers Complaints Team to request and/or receive from the affected casino operator information related to your casino account, registered details, gambling logs and activity and/or any other information which could help us identify the issue in completeness and come up with a justified and fair judgement. https:­//w­ww.a­sk­gam­ble­rs.c­om­/te­rms­-co­ndi­tio­ns-p74

In addition, we could request written request from the player, in regards of providing us more information for this particular case.

Considering the fact that the term you quoted is not listed within the general rules, AskGamblers Complaints Team do not find your statement to be fully relevant to the dispute unless both affected players who used the same IP /including complainant/ claimed and used the same bonus. We could support your accusations, but only once we receive evidence/s confirming such actions. If that was not the case, then we strongly recommend you to reconsider your decision, and pay the player in full. 

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Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
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Account closed and no explanation so far why €4,900 balance is still not paid

02 December 2019 when i tried to log into my 18bet account that has around 4800-4900 euro balance but i couldn't and saw message that the account is closed. And to this day I still can’t log into my account. As i was not asking for account closure i assume it was closed by casino management. Last time i successfully signed into my account was 15 October 2019. There was no correspondence about account closure on my e-mail, and no funds were paid to my neteller account or my card. But casino stopped sending promo e-mails from 2 november, so thats probably a time of account closure. I sent e-mail to support and received no answer by this time. Chat support tells nothing.

Account opened on 18.06.2018, account was verified long ago, i played mostly on casino section. Balance was there because when i previously tried to withdraw 15 october and 24 july casino asked for fresh utility bill and i had none available at that moment. Last deposit to 18bet was made 05 april 2019 and last time i received a withdrawal from them was 21 july 2019 for 4000 euro (to my neteller account), around 4800-4900 left on account.


As casino support is unresponsive and i can not get explanations why the account was closed i need help from third parties in resolving this. I'd like to reinstall account and get my funds paid.

Chat transcripts Chat started on 05 Dec 2019, 10:20 PM (GMT+0)

(10:20:20) *** Artem joined the chat ***

(10:20:20) Artem: Why i see message account closed?

(10:21:22) Customer Service: We apologize for keeping you waiting. Our operators are busy at the moment, please leave us a message with your email address and we'll get back to you shortly.

(10:22:23) *** Stan D. joined the chat ***

(10:22:26) Stan D.: Hello.

(10:22:33) Stan D.: May I have your username so I could better assist?

(10:23:08) Artem: *******

(10:23:20) Stan D.: Thank you, allow me a moment to check, please.

(10:25:58) Stan D.: Yes, I can see that you have sent an email regarding this matter. Please kindly await for a reply from our side.

(10:26:03) Stan D.: You will be contacted as soon as possible.

(10:28:52) Artem: Then tell me my account balance please

(10:29:19) Artem: it was around 5000 i need the exact amount

(10:30:46) Stan D.: Yes, correct, however, as I mentioned, you will be contacted with the full details regarding this matter as soon as possible.

(10:30:55) Stan D.: This is all I can share as information at the moment.

(10:31:48) Artem: Correct but i can not write everywhere "around 5000"

(10:32:06) Artem: it was 4850-4860 i just need the exact number

(10:33:12) Stan D.: As I mentioned, you will be provided with all the details in a reply to the email you have sent. This is all the information I have at the moment.

(10:38:52) Stan D.: Since there has been no reply from you for over 5 minutes, this chat session is to be considered finished and will be closed. Thank you for contacting our live support. Should you require further assistance, please feel free to contact us again anytime.

(10:38:54) *** Stan D. left the chat ***

(10:39:49) *** Artem left the chat ***

Status solved Resolved
Closed my account, won't paying my €3,900 withdrawal

I have decided to withdrawal all my balance - 3900€, because they started to reject almost all my bets.

First I was asked for:

1. A photograph of the front and back of my ID

2. I do not have utility bill with my name as I am living in house that belongs to my parents so they are paying utility bills, but I am sending you scan of car registration document from December as it is most recent document I could find with my name on it.

3. A screenshot of your Neteller account, with the page URL and your personal details (name, address, phone, etc.) clearly visible

4. A valid phone number you can be reached at:

Which I have provided. Then they asked for:

1. A screenshot of your Neteller account, with the page URL and your personal details (name, address, phone, etc.) with the drop down menu clearly visible (head icon)

And after that they asked for:

1. A self-certified photo of you (selfie), holding your ID document.

I have also provided them with selfie.

Next day I got this email:

Dear Lubomir,

We are reaching you to inform you that our Anti-Fraud Department detected that your IP address is already in use by another account.

In accordance to our policy your account has been closed and the total of your deposits, minus fees for administrative costs, have been returned to your Neteller account.

I have never had or used any other account with 18bet.com .

For me it seems like they are trying to avoid paying my winnings.

I am using DSL internet connection with dynamic IP (which means that everytime I connect to internet my ISP will assign me one IP from pool of IPs he has), so I am not sure if this could be problem. Therefore IP can not be even used as proof that I have used or made any other. account at 18bet.com . They did not provided me with any proof, but they only claimed that I my IP address is already used by another account, but I have never ever made any other account at 18bet.com ... so it seems like they are trying to avoid pay me winnings.

Status rejected Rejected
€3,900