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I believe Stake is using misleading terms


2 weeks ago

Hello AskGamblers Team,

I am filing a complaint about Stake.

Issue: 

My bet of 451.5 USDT was incorrectly settled as lost.

What happened:

I placed a live bet on "Away Win Other" in the market "Correct Score (90' + added time)". The final score was 1:2. Stake marked my bet as lost.

My argument:

1. In live betting, Stake only offers "Other Home Win" and "Other Away Win". They do NOT offer exact scores like "1:0", "2:1", "1:2".

2. Attached are 2 screenshots proving this. One for 251.00 USDT and one for 451.5 USDT. Both only show "Other Home Win" / "Other Away Win".

3. Since the exact score "1:2" was not available to bet on, the market "Other Away Win" should have won when the score was 1:2.

4. I asked Stake about this. They admitted that "1:2 is not included under Others Winners" but they refused to pay.

I believe Stake is using misleading terms. If they don't offer "1:2", they must pay "Other Away Win".

Please help me get my 451.5 USDT winnings.

Thank you.

Disputed sportsbook Stake Sportsbook
Amount $451.5

Discussion

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Dear @Victor99x,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to update your complaint in a timely manner and confirm if you consider the issue resolved. Please note that, in case you fail to respond within the given timeframe we will consider your case resolved and it will be closed accordingly.

Please keep in mind that as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaint system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Dear Victor R,

Thank you for your patience while your case was being investigated.

We have reviewed your complaint together with our Sportsbook team, and as previously communicated to you, we can confirm that your bet was correctly settled as a loss.

To clarify the settlement once more: your bet was placed on "Other Away Win" in the Multiscores market, and the match ended 1: 2.
The Multiscores market works by grouping exact scorelines into separate selections. One of the selections available in this market was "1:2, 1:3 or 1:4", which is visible in the screenshot you provided. This selection directly covered the final result of the match.

"Other Away Win" only applies when the away team wins by a scoreline that is not already listed in any of the other selections of the market, for example, an unusual result such as 0:5 or 2:6. Since 1:2 was already covered by its own selection, "Other Away Win" cannot be a winning outcome for this result.

We understand your point about the Correct Score market not offering the exact score 1:2 in live play. However, your bet was not placed in the Correct Score market, it was placed in the Multiscores market, where the result 1:2 was available under "1:2, 1:3 or 1:4". Bets are always settled based on the selections and rules of the market in which they were placed.

For this reason, the settlement of your bet stands, and no winnings are due on this selection. This applies equally to both bets placed on this selection.

Should you have any other questions, please let us know.

Kind regards,
Stake.com

Stake Sportsbook Complaint Stats

Resolved 9 / 9
Avg. Amount $1,013
Avg. Complaint Duration 6 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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