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By karamba
10 years ago
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Slots Heaven Casino (/ Casino.com) has refused to payout my account balance 12,144.68 €.

They only gave this short explanation:

"Dear Kaj,

First of all, let us apologise for any negative experience you have had thus far. We totally understand your frustration on the fact that your winnings were cut. However we would like to confirm that a total of 12,144.68 € were voided following the account's review our security department carried out as these were accrued from promotional bonuses."

It is true that I have got several bonuses in the casino, but I have also always fulfilled all the play through requirements without breaching any terms. The casino doesn't even claim that I would have violated any terms. Thus, just giving a reason that because my winnings "were accrued from promotional bonuses" isn't even a close a good reason to confiscate my account balance in my opinion.

Casino's reference for this particular matter is 150218-002631.
Disputed Casino Slots Heaven Casino
Amount €12145

Discussion

User name
We didn't get evidence from a casino management that this player breached casino's Terms and Conditions. We consider this complaint unresolved. We recommend to the player to seek further help in front of licence authority that issued casino's licence.
User name loyalty-level-2
Yes, Slots Heaven casino has refused to pay out my account balance since February already, that is true. It is a long time! And collusion claim has totally no grounds. How could one possibly even collude in games where one sole player plays against computer? Absurd, and the most of all untrue. That is why this case seriously needs to be taken further and be published.
User name
Hi,
This customer’s winnings were removed after a security check on the account confirmed bonus abuse through collusion. This took place back in February of this year.
The decision was fully justified under the terms of our license and the terms and conditions of our website.
Best wishes,
SlotsHeaven.com
User name loyalty-level-2
Still waiting for their reply. I just emailed them saying this among other things:

"I could have lost money too and in that case I wouldn't have had any right to appeal to anything to void my losses. Equally, when playing fully by the given rules of your site, when I haven't breached anything and I have made winnings - no matter with taking bonuses or without - you can't just void my winnings."

Usually casinos have this kind of view to non-withdrawable bonuses: "All bonus money will be removed at the point of cash out, bonus money is money that can be used to help generate winnings but cannot be withdrawn as part of the winnings."

But now Slots Heaven casino has taken totally new view: if a player plays with bonuses, the casino has a right to cut the possible winnings just by their one-sided judgement however they feel like - arbitrarily. To accept a cut of winnings given that no terms and conditions were breached, the terms should have stated a maximum payout or something like that.

It is also absurd to give a reason for the cut: "accrued from promotional bonuses" when the purpose of promotional bonuses is _always_ to give better chances to bigger winnings for the players, practically the same thing as lengthening the playing experience before losing all balance.

If casino doesn't like the player getting too much benefit from bonuses the way to act it stop giving bonuses / changing play-through terms, in the most severe case even ban the player, but definitely not confiscate winnings which are legitimate. That goes to the area where the casino is literally stealing the player's money. Unless Slotsh­eav­en.c­om­/Ca­sin­o.com doesn't cancel their view and action, they should be clearly categorised as rogue casinos.

Slots Heaven Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 3 / 6
Avg. Amount $2,738
Avg. Complaint Duration 8 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Still waiting to receive my withdrawal
On Friday 28th June I made a deposit of £20.00 and was rather happy when I had a small win and decided to withdraw £82.72 I’ve been with Slots Heaven for over 1 year and I’ve always found the withdrawals to be very prompt upon the email I receive advising that the withdrawal has been processed.

I received an email on Monday 1st July to advise that the withdrawal had been processed and would be received in due course. As the email was just before 5pm UK time, I assumed that the funds most probably wouldn’t enter my account and would probably be the following day.

In the morning I checked my account and I found that the funds were not there, as it was still morning I decided I would check again later in the evening. I checked, and again no funds were available.

I contacted Slots Heaven via WebChat just to mention that I felt there could potentially be an issue with the withdrawal. Whilst I appreciate the timeframes that they supply, I’d always found previously that the funds went in the same day. I just thought I would raise it with them so they could give assurance it was credited to the correct bank account. I was informed that the funds had been sent to the correct bank account and to allow the very latest of Friday 5 July for these funds to be received.

It was to Wednesday 3rd July and I was getting a little anxious as there was still no signs of these funds. I contacted Slots Heaven again by Web Chat and I was advised by Ned that he would send across proof of payment for the funds. I received this by email, however this just looks like an audit log that they complete so they can account for all moneys leaving their business, it wasn’t actually a log from the payment processor that they use.

I raised this and was told that they would require a bank statement as the funds were definitely sent to my bank. I provided them with bank statements and I was told again that this would be escalated further, and they would provide me with an update as soon as possible. I asked if they could put a timeframe on this but they advised they could not. I was told once again that the very latest for the funds to me in my account would be Friday 5th July.

I have checked my account today and the funds are still not there. I contacted my bank and provided them with the payment reference number as given by Slots Heaven and they confirmed that the reference does not exist and I have no pending payments due into my account.

I provided screenshots again to Slots Heaven of my bank statement, which clearly shows no funds have entered my account. I also provided screenshots of the web chat conversation with my bank, confirming the payment reference was not valid and that I had no pending payments due into my account.

I was told again that this would be escalated further within their Finance Team and that they would be contacting my bank. Again, I was told that they are not able to provide a timeframe for a resolution and that they would be in touch as soon as possible.

I’ve contacted my bank again today who have informed me that Slots Heaven / Onisac have not been in contact with them, they provided me with a global payments telephone number for my bank but I was told that unless a payment was sent by Slots Heaven there would be nothing they can do until they actually send the payment.

Due to never having issues in the past, I have made further deposits into my account, in good faith that they will resolve this issue. However, I now have a further £150 in winnings which I’ve requested for withdrawal but I’m now worried that I’ll never receive this payment either.

I assumed with them asking for my bank statement, that they would then arrange the payment to be sent again as you can clearly see that I’ve not received any funds. But instead I’m just asked to wait longer and longer… Whilst I appreciate it has only been 7 days since I requested this withdrawal, whenever I make a deposit this money is taken straight away… so I’d appreciate to at least receive my withdrawals within the guidelines that they set.

I have screenshots of my bank statements and WebChat with my bank (Barclays) – all of which Slots Heaven have been provided. I feel I have been highly co-operative and all I’ve received back is requests to wait longer and ‘appreciate they’re doing everything they can’.

I would like to say though, this is the first ever issue I’ve had and before this Slots Heaven have been truly amazing. I just feel that as this is my first ever issue and as I deposit thousands with them that this could have been handled a lot better and they could have actually given me more insight into why I’m having to wait and wait each time.

Whilst I appreciate they’re going to contact the bank, that’s perfect.. however, I feel like I’m the one being penalised for a mistake that isn’t my own. I’d say it’s pretty obvious now that these funds are not going to be received, so I’d like to know what now? Do I just lose the withdrawal? Am I safe to be withdrawing £150 with the risk of the same issue occurring again?

Thank you for your help, I hope we can reach a mutual resolution as I do love playing on Slots Heaven.
Status solved Resolved
£233
Passport Id not accepted

Hi

I have sent requested documents twice now to slots heaven in order for me to withdraw winnings. I sent passport which shows pic, full number and all other information, my bank card back and front, recent tax letter showing my address along with doctors letter showing same and direct debit info from bank.

First time they said they never recd docs via email so I uploaded them on their site.

Recd email saying they accepted my bank card but passport and letters were not acceptable yet pics show all details required. Below is copy of email they sent.

Thank you for contacting Slotsheaven.com with your documentation which has been received and passed to our Security Department for verification.

We are pleased to inform you that your credit card copy has been verified and your Slotsheaven.com account updated.

Unfortunately, the ID and Proof of Address copies you sent us could not be verified by our Security team and didn't meet the document requirement. Please note that those documents are cropped and that your proof of address does not show any transaction on it.

Please resend us following valid documents:

1. A valid ID copy (driving license, national ID card or passport). Please send us the complete copy, we need to see the whole document. To see an example of an acceptable ID copy please click:

http://www.slotsheaven.com/images/id_french.jpg

2. A valid proof of address that is dated within the last 3 months. Please send us a utility bill or bank statement showing your full name, address, a company logo and transactions or bills paid. To see an example of an acceptable proof of address please visit:

http://www.slotsheaven.com/images/id_bill.jpg

To see examples of acceptable documents and withdrawal timeframe, please visit:

http://www.slotsheaven.com/about/withdrawal.html

Once we have received these documents, we will confirm this via email.

You can send the necessary forms of identification via:

Status solved Resolved