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By maria00
3 years ago
Hi it’s been 1 or 2 months they keeps my withdrawals they want from me lost of documents I already send them im always contacted them they says no updates yet they just making excuses they want a picture next to my face I already send my passport and they approve everything then they want a mobile ownership belongs to my name to carry out further verification and its been 1 months they not giving my anything just says no updates yet
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Dear MrVegas Casino,

Please let us know if there are any updates regarding this ongoing complaint.

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Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Dear @maria00,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to update your complaint accordingly and clarify the total amount of the disputed payment/s.

Please keep in mind that, as per the AGCCS Guidelines, providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks for cooperating with the AskGamblers Complaint Team.

MrVegas Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 1 / 4
Avg. Amount $1,153
Avg. Complaint Duration 4 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Withdrawal of 114GBP withheld
I opened an account with Mr Vegas on 9th February and have been enjoying their offering; I have deposited several thousand pounds, all using PayPal as the payments method, and have made some withdrawals, also to PayPal, and all without issue. I had uploaded all requested verification documents using their direct upload facility and my account was verified.
On 20th March, after finding a forgotten £100 balance in my Paysafecard account, I used this to make a deposit to the casino. I played about 10 low-value spins, before finding that I had reached a loss limit and was unable to play further. I contacted Live Chat support to confirm this, and the support agent informed me that although my weekly loss limit had recently rolled over, there were still a few days until my monthly limit would do the same and therefore I would be unable to play until that day. I said that I would withdraw the money and deposit it at another casino and the agent confirmed that MrVegas does not support withdrawals to Paysafecard. I asked whether I could withdraw to PayPal and the agent informed me that this would not be processed automatically, but would require a manual intervention by the payments team, who would start work at 8am. The agent said that he would add a note to my my account/the withdrawal request explaining the situation.
At 9:30am, I tried to log in to my account, but found that it was suspended. My attempted withdrawal of an unplayed deposit to a different payment method seems to have triggered additional AML verification requirements, despite its low value relative to my overall deposits in the preceding weeks/months, and despite the involvement of MrVegas support staff when the request was made. Shortly thereafter, I received an email telling me that my withdrawal had been cancelled; this contained no explanation, but suggested that I contact the support team for further information. I also received a further email informing me that the casino was required to confirm my "source of wealth" and asking for:
- payslips from Jan-March
- bank account showing wages credited - PDF statements from 1-Jan-23 to 21-Mar-23
- PayPal PDF statement from 1-Jan-23 to 21-Mar-23.
This email stated that access to my account would be restricted within 30 days, if the documents were not provided. This seems like a reasonable timeframe in which to complete this process, but my account had pre-emptively suspended before the document request had even been sent.
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I replied to this email with some questions, as I did not fully understand the request:
- I first asked why the withdrawal was cancelled, as agents on Live Chat support were unable to answer the question, despite me having been directed there for answers;
- I did not accumulate my wealth between January and March 2023, so I asked whether the casino had, perhaps, meant to ask for Source of Funds evidence; the distinction is significant, as I want to be able to provide the casino with sufficient, though not excessive, documents for their stated purpose. It is not unusual for casinos to presume that the documents they request will contain particular data, which they do not in fact contain. I therefore need to understand why they are asking for specific documents, or what information they hope to find there, so that I might identify the correct documents that will actually provide the information they need to see;
- If the casino meant to ask for Source of Funds, then I asked why the request asked for documents going back further than the date on which my casino account was opened;
- As far as I am aware, PayPal do not provide formal PDF statements, so I made a suggestion as to what I thought they might be asking for, and asked them to confirm whether this was correct;
- I also asked how I might provide the documents, since I was no longer able to access the direct upload facility due to my account having been deactivated. I advised that unencrypted email is not an appropriate mechanism to deliver such documents, as advised by the National CyberSecurity Centre and the Information Commissioner's Office.

I sent this email on 21st March - two weeks ago. I received no response and so I chased via email on 24th March, but this too yielded no response. I have contacted Live Chat support 3 or 4 times to ask for an update, but each time this elicited a response using the exact same phrasing: "We do not have an update at this time." Today, I pressed further, explaining that the response was nonsensical, as I was asking the casino to explain actions it had already taken, or requests it had already made. The support agent today confirmed that the relevant team had received an read my email. No research should be required before that team can explain why my withdrawal request was cancelled, or what they mean by a PDF statement from PayPal, or whether they meant Source of Wealth or Source of Funds. Ignoring my reasonable questions, to which I need answers before I can hope to understand what they have asked me to provide, is not reasonable. Withholding my funds whilst they continue to stonewall me is even less so.

In on of the chat transcripts, the support agent refers to an account I had previously held with Videoslots.com. When I signed up with MrVegas, I was unaware that it part of the same casino network as Videoslots.com and I would probably not have signed up with them had I known this in advance: after years of playing extensively on Videoslots and having passed through multiple iterations of their verification processes without any issues, I eventually experienced a downturn in the availability & quality of their customer support, after they rejected a submitted SoW document and then became wholly unresponsive to my attempts to resolve the issue for literally months. It took over 5 months for them to return my account balance of several hundreds of pounds. That all happened well over a year ago, however, so even after it became pretty obvious that they were operated by the same company, I carried on playing on MrVegas, in the hope that similar issues could be avoided. I was surprised that the agent made reference to the incomplete SoW verification process in that closed Videoslots account, because MrVegas have already allowed me to deposit around £12,000 and withdraw around £9,000 - neither of which should have been permitted if they believed that there was I had an outstanding SoW document request from 18 months ago.
My past experience, of Videoslots ignoring my many attempts to contact them over several months, is the reason that I have chosen to submit this complaint via AskGamblers.

I attach the following:
WithdrawalDeniedemail.pdf - email from MrVegas informing me that my withdrawal request was cancelled
EmailChain.pdf - shows the initial document request email from MrVegas, my initial response and a further email I sent chasing a response from the casino (messages in reverse chronological order).
ChatTranscript6DaysLater.pdf - Transcript of Live support Chat on 27-Mar
ChatTranscript13DaysLater.pdf - Transcript of Live support Chat on 3-Apr

Unfortunately, unaware that these issues would arise, it looks like I did not request transcripts of either the initial chat I was having with support whilst I made the withdrawal, or the one later that day querying why account had been locked. I am sure that the casino can provide you with these.
Status unsolved Unresolved
£114
MrVegas is holding my 3300 Euro for over 38 days denying my withdrawal

Hello!

I have account on MrVegas Casino for a long time, fully verified, I sent my ID, skrill confirmations, bank details, and selfies. Everything.

On 24th of February 2022 MrVegas Casino restricted my account, they blocked me from making withdrawals. I received this email:

"Annalisa (Mr. Vegas)

Feb 24, 2022, 14:45 GMT+1

Dear <last name removed>

We hope you are enjoying playing on our website.

We are required by law and under the terms of our gambling license to verify your source of your wealth.

Such a check is required so that we can justify your activities and transactions at Mr Vegas. This is not only to protect Mr Vegas, but also you as an individual.

For us to complete this process, and to avoid any further interruptions to your gaming experience, please provide one or more of the relevant documents listed below:

Employment income - payslip with a bank statement, documents confirming salary and/or tax returns;

Inheritance Income - a copy of the will, signed letter from the solicitor;

Investments – a copy of the portfolio statement or bank statement showing receipt of funds and investment company name;

Dispositions – legal agreements bank statements clearly showing receipt of funds;

Property - evidence of title, copies of trust deeds or signed contract of sale;

Ownership of business - audited accounts containing information on dividends;

Confirmation of your source of wealth from regulated professionals such as accountants, auditors, notaries and lawyers;

or any other type of documents which would assist us in understanding your total net worth.

If you have difficulty obtaining any of the relevant documentation listed above, please contact us.

Frequently Asked Questions

What happens if I don't answer the questions?

Access to your Mr Vegas account will be restricted within 30 days.

What will my documents be used for?

We use any customer documentation solely for the purpose of meeting our regulatory requirements. Documents provided will be held on a secure server and never disclosed to any third parties without a legal justification.

Am I suspected of money laundering?

No, this does not mean that any individual is a suspect of any fraudulent activity.

Best regards

Mr Vegas"

A few days later I sent them all documents needed, I sent them a document from a notary showing that I sold my property, that I received this money to my bank account, that I uploaded funds to Skrill and from Skrill, I was making deposits to MrVegas Casino. Also, I sent them Bitpanda crypto trades confirmations showing that I earned a lot of money on trading and this money was also used for future deposits to MrVegas Casino.

Another few days later I was asked to provide Skrill transactions, Bitpanda transactions. I sent them.

And for the next few weeks silence from them. Zero emails, zero information. When I was asking on live chat people were saying to me that this is a standard procedure and I need to wait a little longer. So far I am waiting 38 days since my block on withdrawals.

I have over 3300 Euro on my MrVegas Casino, all comes from my deposits, I never used bonuses. All is mine.

Please, dear Askgamblers, make an intervention, something is off. I am waiting over a month to withdraw my funds.

I sent them all documents they wanted, all is crystal clear, all confirmations prove my story. All is easy to read.

I don't know why they delaying everything for so long, for over a month.

I want my money back, I want to withdraw all to Skrill. I am ready to cooperate on every level.

All I want is to get back my money, please help me.

Status rejected Rejected
€3,300