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5 years ago

Hello Askgamblers,

I'm asking you to step in on my behalf on this issue as I'm not satisfied with the way FortuneJack have handled it thus far.

FortuneJack run a fantasy football style competition for the champions league, where you submit a team for each matchday and can win prizes for placing in the top 3 of all entrants. In the most recent leaderboard, I have placed in the top 3. This matchday ended on the 5th of May and I have attached both the leaderboard and terms and conditions of the competition.

As you can see, there are 3 separate prize categories; one for your overall aggregate placement of all game rounds with a prize pool of 3BTC; one for your placement in a singular matchday with a prize pool of 90mBTC and lastly one for your overall aggregate placement of all game rounds past the group stages of the champions league (to my knowledge) with a prize pool of 550mBTC.

I fall under the second category, coming joint 1st place for a singular matchday leaderboard (the most recent). If you would look further down the terms and conditions there are two clauses pertaining to my case:

"Free bets and tournament prize pool amounts will be credited to the participants in the period of 3-5 days after them being eligible." - bear in mind the matchday ended on the 5th of May, at the time of writing it has almost been 3 weeks.

"If two or more participants score the same amount of points (for the PER MATCHDAY + overall matchday + an overall leaderboard + player’s jackpot), prize amounts will be divided equally." - I am in a joint first position with 2 other players, I would like to ensure that I am paid an amount in accordance with their own rules. 90mBTC split 3 ways is 30mBTC each in the form of a free bet.

It is so frustrating watching the price of bitcoin tank in recent weeks with the knowledge that, in my eyes and as the terms clearly set out, prizes WILL be credited in a period of 3-5 days after results are calculated. I have talked to their live chat several times about this issue and have been told countless times that I can expect an update via email tomorrow regarding the issue, which never happened. The lack of transparency and answers are really bothering me. If they were to tell me the prizes are delayed and a date I can expect mine I would be perfectly happy with that, but they don't. Attached also are some chat logs so you can hopefully understand my frustration. In one, I was even told prizes have already been credited which is simply not true.

24/05

Now, I am told that the casino do not credit prizes after the "playoffs" by their own words. This is found nowhere in their own terms of the competition and outlined nowhere on the site. Separate chat logs even contradict this policy. I am told the decision of the casino is final and that they refuse to pay out my prize. They are failing to comply with the terms they set out, very dishonest in my view. I feel if anybody were to read these terms and then place in the top 3, they would firmly believe they have won a prize as I do. It's not unreasonable to have expected a prize.

To conclude, I am extremely unhappy with FortuneJack's responsiveness and transparency in regards to my concerns and as of now they are breaching their own terms and conditions which they have set out. I have waited patiently for nearly 3 weeks and been led down avenues that go nowhere. It took 3 weeks to get a definitive answer and it's a kick in the teeth.

I hope we can come to an agreement that satisfies both parties.

Regards

Disputed Casino FortuneJack Casino
Amount BTC0.03

Discussion

User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
I can confirm the prize has been credited to my account. Thank you to Askgamblers for your help and FortuneJack for addressing the complaint.
User name

Dear @twist22,

As per the Terms of the disputed competition you are owed 30 mBTC, therefore the AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to update your complaint in a timely manner and let us know if you have received the disputed prize. Please be notified that, in case you fail to respond within the given timeframe, we will consider your case resolved and it will be closed accordingly.

Please keep in mind that, as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaints system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

User name
Updating the case one last time:

Despite the fact that we strongly disagree with @TWIST22's point of view, we as a reputable and trusted company respect every single member of the community by all means. That's the reason why we've already credited the OP with the free bet at the amount of 30 mBTC as suggested and approved by the team of AskGamblers.

On top of that, the Terms and Conditions of the Jackmate Fantasy has been updated according to the recommendations provided within the complaint, so everyone can now easily understand the meanings that was though to be misleading to some of the participants.

Kindly asking the OP to confirm the payment along with the AG team to mark the case as solved.


Cheers
Tornike,

FortuneJack Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 71 / 73
Avg. Amount $7,965
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Unjustified confiscation of $1,825

On June 7, I registered on the site and made the first deposit of 1300$. June 8 After the game, I won and asked for money for withdrawal. Immediately received a notification in the mail - you need to pass the KYC verification. On the same day I passed it, and the next day I received a payment. Now my account is fully verified! It is important! On June 10, I make a deposit of 1200 dollars. I lose everything. June 11th I deposit $1900. I lose everything. June 16 I make a deposit of 2000 $. After the game, my account becomes 6375$. On June 20 in the morning I make a withdrawal request. Fortunjack won't pay out my money citing some standard check... June 21 in the evening they send me an email saying that my account was linked to some other account, which was previously blocked for some bad actions and now all my winnings are canceled! I that I can only take the deposit because they are so kind! As a result, my deposit was 6375 dollars, and they allowed me to withdraw only 4550 dollars!!! $1,825 was withheld!

I repeat once again - my account has been fully verified! While I was losing, Fortunjack turned a blind eye to everything??? Or was there no connection? But as soon as you saw a large amount on my account, you immediately didn’t want to pay???

Now my account is already blocked. Fortunjack covers his tracks very quickly. If you ask me to make new screenshots, I won't be able to make them for you. But I have done some.

My deposits and my balance - https://prnt.sc/Fr35N2X5Jvw6

Ask KYC - https://prnt.sc/BhdzupGtGMid

KYC finished - https://prnt.sc/OkoU2ubqAHo_

Delay of my last withdrawal - https://prnt.sc/W0sr7AMosFp2

fortunejack not want pay - https://prnt.sc/YxtyeVc9qemM

my bets https://prnt.sc/-V98g3_fxaK1


Fortunjack is not consistent in his actions! A fully verified account suddenly decided to be accused of having links with some other accounts! Clearly a scam! Fortunejack, you can close the dialogue by mail! And here you will have to answer for your theft! In order to close this dispute, I demand the return of my honestly won money! Fortunejack, you have no right to steal money unilaterally like that! And then close the dialogue! I have verified my identity! You are obliged to carry out such a check on each account so that there are no matches! Then people will bet safely! Before leaving a complaint here, I corresponded on another forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457112.0. It was there that I was offered to file a complaint with you. Fortunejack, in his uncertain answer, wrote something like this - we do not have any evidence, but the analysis of the behavior on the account allowed us to draw such a conclusion! If you look at my rates, then the answer Fortunejack will seem very strange to you! Approximately the same thought from the bitcoitalk community. Especially when I was losing at first, they let me bet. And as soon as I won, they refused to pay. For example, if I lost, then the Fortunejack remained in a very big plus and there would be no problems! It turns out a very tricky game!

Status solved Resolved
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