Complaint #155
FortuneJack Casino
Suspicions about Dice game
7 years ago
Dear ASKGAMBLERS team,
I used to submitted a complaint about Fortunejack dice scam, you told me I don't have enough data to prove it, now I have it. But Fortunejack team only sent me my lastest 2000 rolls, and refused to provided more. As a sample, I count and ananysis the data and found the issue.
The chart in this email shows clearly that the higher you bet, the higher the chance you lose.
To put it another way, your bet amount will influence the roll.
I'll list some data here: I played with payout 1.5-1.6, win chance 66-61.87%. The overall win chance of my lastest 2000 rolls is 65.3%, well, this is fine. But the win chance decrease while the bet amount is doubled:
Bet amount 0.001, win chance 65.5% (>65.3%)
Bet amount 0.002, win chance 66.8% (>65.3%),
---here is where the trick comes in---
Bet amount 0.004, win chance 65.0% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.008, win chance 63.4% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.032, win chance 64.3% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.064, win chance 55.6% (<65.3%).
See? The higher the bet, the lower the win chance!
We can see clearly the trend from 2000 rolls, the trend will be more clearer if the Fortunejack team can provide all my history.
If you insist the data is not enough, the Fortunejack should be obliged to provide enough data against my proof and conclusion.
I used to submitted a complaint about Fortunejack dice scam, you told me I don't have enough data to prove it, now I have it. But Fortunejack team only sent me my lastest 2000 rolls, and refused to provided more. As a sample, I count and ananysis the data and found the issue.
The chart in this email shows clearly that the higher you bet, the higher the chance you lose.
To put it another way, your bet amount will influence the roll.
I'll list some data here: I played with payout 1.5-1.6, win chance 66-61.87%. The overall win chance of my lastest 2000 rolls is 65.3%, well, this is fine. But the win chance decrease while the bet amount is doubled:
Bet amount 0.001, win chance 65.5% (>65.3%)
Bet amount 0.002, win chance 66.8% (>65.3%),
---here is where the trick comes in---
Bet amount 0.004, win chance 65.0% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.008, win chance 63.4% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.032, win chance 64.3% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.064, win chance 55.6% (<65.3%).
See? The higher the bet, the lower the win chance!
We can see clearly the trend from 2000 rolls, the trend will be more clearer if the Fortunejack team can provide all my history.
If you insist the data is not enough, the Fortunejack should be obliged to provide enough data against my proof and conclusion.
Dear @Askgamblers,
I am afraid my concern was right. I am here uploading the only file left we have, its not so specific, but all the wins and losses can be seen here. We wont have problem with issuing logs, but player is asking logs from way way long period ago and sadly full logs are only kept within 3 months in our company. We have issued the betting history before and we firmly believe that it is more than enough for an expert or an amateur to state that dice game is absolutely provably fair.
Please be considerate, the complaint is called "dice scam with proof" and do not mark it as unresolved. The complaint is about if dice on fortunejack is a scam or not and it clearly is not, please ask for additional expertise from a person who is insightful with provably fair games and theory of provability. We are even open to hold a skype conversation and thoroughly explain the principle of provably fair dice to trusted askgamblers expert.
Cheers,
David.
I am afraid my concern was right. I am here uploading the only file left we have, its not so specific, but all the wins and losses can be seen here. We wont have problem with issuing logs, but player is asking logs from way way long period ago and sadly full logs are only kept within 3 months in our company. We have issued the betting history before and we firmly believe that it is more than enough for an expert or an amateur to state that dice game is absolutely provably fair.
Please be considerate, the complaint is called "dice scam with proof" and do not mark it as unresolved. The complaint is about if dice on fortunejack is a scam or not and it clearly is not, please ask for additional expertise from a person who is insightful with provably fair games and theory of provability. We are even open to hold a skype conversation and thoroughly explain the principle of provably fair dice to trusted askgamblers expert.
Cheers,
David.
FortuneJack Casino Complaint Stats
Resolved
71 / 73
Avg. Amount
$7,965
Avg. Complaint Duration
7 days
Avg. Response Time
2 days
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