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Bonus winnings "confiscated" unfairly


I successfully "opted in" to a Betsafe bonus offer on 12th January 2017. The offer was deposit and wager £50 for a £15 bonus with 35x roll over requirement. I wagered the full £50 (losing) and 2 days later accepted the £15 bonus. I span £1 spins, completing the wagering requirements with a final account balance of £974.25. Having made a full withdraw request on 14th Jan, I received an email 2 days later saying my winnings had been confiscated. The following reason was given

12.1 Any Bonus is only available once per person, family, household, address, e-mail address, credit card number, bank account, telephone number, computer/device and / or IP address.

20.1 If we suspect that you have breached these Rules, we may refuse to open, suspend or close Your Account. We may also withhold any money in Your Account (including the deposit) and set off any money or damages due to us against the money in Your Account.

I can confirm I am the only person who has lived at this address for the past 10 years with a Betsafe account. I do not hold an account with Betsafe under any other name, with my or any other bank account, email address or phone number. I am unable to prove this but I can categorically say that Betsafe cannot hold any information to the contrary as this would be impossible.

I sent the following to Betsafe:
Dear Madara,

Further to my email yesterday which I understand is now with the relevant team, I would ask that the following information also be forwarded on my behalf.

Firstly I would like to confirm that I (removed), email (removed) am the only individual residing at (removed) with a Betsafe account. The only other person living at this address is my mother (removed) who has personally assured me that she does not have or has ever had a Betsafe account, or any other bookmaker account for that matter.

I would like to point out that since I opened my Betsafe account, I have used the site on a few occasions, two of which resulted in a withdraw request. Both the withdraw on 24/07/2016 and the more recent withdraw on 12/12/2016 were successful, with no issues being raised. It is with this in mind that I indicate my good faith when completing the promotion on your site last week. The promotion was showing on site when I logged into my account, I was able to opt in to the promotion successfully, deposit and wager (unfortunately losing) and the £15 bonus was applied to my account 24 hours later. No issues appear to have been flagged until I was successful in completing the required wagering and attempted to withdraw my winnings.

Finally should a favorable response not be forthcoming with regard to allowing my withdraw, may I ask you to confirm that with regard to your internal dispute procedures all avenues have now been exhausted. In addition I request that all information pertaining to my account be forwarded to myself in accordance with current Data Protection protocol.

On a more personal note due to financial constraints I am not often able to indulge in online gaming. The excitement and elation that I felt on Saturday when completing wagering with a £974.00 balance was I believe akin to winning the lottery! I cannot express my feelings when I received your email on Monday "confiscating" my winnings. This has not been a pleasant experience and I sincerely hope that this matter can be concluded satisfactorily without the need for further action being taken.

They are still stating the reason for not paying is a breach of their terms 12.1, which is not the case.

I am hoping you may be able to intervene on my behalf, and avoid the more lengthy legal route.

Many thanks.
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Amount £974

Discussion

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Dear @David1976,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to update your complaint in a timely manner and confirm if you consider the issue resolved. Please note that, in case you fail to respond within the given timeframe we will consider your case resolved and it will be closed accordingly.

Please keep in mind that as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaint system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Hi,

I would lime to confirm that after review, the winnings were paid out and customer has proceeded to withdraw these winnings successfully.

Roger

Betsafe Customer Support Manager
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Dear all,

Kindly be notified that this complaint is being reopened following the declared willingness on behalf of Betsafe Casino management to do everything within their power to resolve their outstanding AGCCS cases. The AskGamblers Complaint Team will gladly assist by giving any of these old cases an additional chance for a successful resolution.

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Dear Betsafe Casino,

Please let us know if there's some update regarding this case.

Betsafe Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 30 / 31
Avg. Amount $2,768
Avg. Complaint Duration 8 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Delayed verification and rejected withdrawal
I started using Betsafe on 22.6.2024 when I deposited 1000 euros into my account, after that I generated some winnings and I withdrew my initial deposit of 1000 euros + 50 euros winnings (1050 euro withdrawal made 6.7.2024), the withdrawal that time was succcesful. I made another withdrawal of 300 euros 13.7.2024, that one also was successful. Now when I tried to make a withdrawal 30.7.2024 of 2002,99 euros, Betsafe wanted additional verification. Of course I have used betting sites before and I understand their KYC process, so I provided every document that they asked for. I sent in many documents (bankstatements, proof of income, etc.) so that they got exactly what they wanted, but it is all correctly sent in and accepted by Betsafe. Every document they have asked for, I have provided.

8.8.2024 I sent in the last requested document and I have now awaited any news since then. There have been no updates from livechat or email support and they are telling me that they are unable to help until the relevant department have reviewed the documents. I cannot understand why this verification is taking so long.
The requested withdrawal I made of 2002,99 (30.7.2024) euros has now suddenly been cancelled without any action on my behalf so now I am getting worried that there is something else going on.

I have given Betsafe a lot of my time and patience but now I am hoping that this forum might help me solve this case, so we can all move on with our lives.
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I have been charged too much on deposits

Hello.

First of all; I'm fully aware of that both the casino/ casinos provider for deposits and withdrawal, and the bank can have their fees. But now I have made deposits to Betsafe the whole month.

In the beginning of February, a deposit on 2000NOK was 2005NOK total, wich is completely normally.

I'm used to the casinos taking some valuta exhange fees, and the total amount if often various.

Sadly all my deposits on 15th-17th February was charged a lot more than just the exhange fees. Here a deposit on 4000 NOK got the total amount of 4377 NOK. The even worse is that there was NO verification at all on my deposits, and I was fully charge without the possible way to accept/decline the transaction, which is something that should be able when it's in different currencies.

When i asked the casino about this, they started with blaming my bank, which here is Revolut. The best part about revolut is that they are saying how much the seller is taken, and how much they are going to take in fees. Revolut even use dynamic valutas, so they are using the real exchange rate at the moment.

When I tried to tell this to the casino, they told me that they haven't taken anything at all, but gave me 442 NOK back. This is a lot under what I have been payed.. I'm missing 2332NOK from all of my deposits in a period of three days.

As told earlier. In the beginning of the month the total amount was around 1-50 NOK over what i actually depositing, which is totally fine, but when its nearly 10% on some of the deposits, its to much. Even when I have no possible ways to decline it, and tell them about this.

I even tried with Mastercard, where they are charging me even in NOK. This was even HIGHER than using Visa. So when they were charging in the same valuta, the total amount was on 8110 NOK, when I was trying to deposit 7500 NOK.

The worst part of this experience is that there is absolutely NO verification when i do have enough on my bank account. But when tried on an empty one, the verification was coming, and here i could see that they are charging a lot more in different currencies, before my bank have something to do about it.

I'm therefore requesting my differences back, which is now on 1890 NOK (since they have already paid 442NOK)

The attached files is showing that this is just being happening the last week this month, and the support is declining that they have something to do about this.. Sadly its neither me or my bank who have taken those money.

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On the other hand, if you won something from a normal round or a bonus buy it will show you the exact amount of winnings as well as the word “WIN”

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There is no $150 bet size on that game that’s why I thought it was a glitch or some kind of technical error.

I attached a screenshot of the bet sizes on the game I played as well as the activity page but I was given a false response from them. The support team insisted that I bought a $150 buy in bonus game and that I won $120.50, then where is it? Why is the $120.50 not visible on the activity page and was replaced by $10 of winnings. I told them that they could review and even replay the bonus game but all my efforts of telling the truth and also my time was just wasted not getting the right answers from a whole support team.


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I hope all paying customers get what they deserved.

I’ve attached screenshot from Betsafe’s activity page and the stake sizes for Chronicles of Olympus X Up.

I also got a screenshot of the history page for 5 Lion which I haven’t got any response until now.

Thank you very much
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