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By Rafalec
10 years ago
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Hi,
I created an account there 2-3 months ago. During that time I made many deposits but did not win anything. Last time I was lucky and I have won +1500 euro. When I loged in to payout my winning there was no money on my account. I asked support what is going on the said only due to multiple IP my winning was refused. I was asking many tumes about details answer always was that same. I have only ane account, nobody else using my phone, computer, Home address ir even nobody from my fruends ir family do not have an account ib their casino. When I plaied ib their casino I used ony my mobile phone using my home Wi-Fi or using Internet connectuon provided by my mobile phone operator. I never connected to other provider, wirales or Wi-Fi plaing in their casino so my money cannot be refused regarding this reason. Please intervent in this case because as I see many people have this same problem with this casino. I want to aware everybody to play in this casino because you money will be refused without any reason. I did not recice any information regarding IP issue when I made many deposits. Futhermore, money was refused after winning, I even did not request withdrawn! I think this is niemal practice in their casino and as far as I know stolling money is a crime.
My username is rafalec.

Regards, Rafał
Disputed Casino Casino Adrenaline
Amount €1500

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AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this complaint as successfully resolved and the case is being officially closed. We are happy that an agreement has been reached and we would like to thank both parties involved into this case for their cooperation.
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Dear Rafał,

Once again we would like to thank you for playing with us and congratulations on your wins. We understand and apologise for the inconvenience, but we have standard checks for every player before proceeding out winnings. Your particular case was unfortunately very complicated because of some very similar account, so Fraud and Risk Management needed time to investigate everything in detail and gather up all the evidence to be sure the right decision was made. The investigation showed that everything was clear and so the winnings were returned. These things take time sometimes and our decisions have and always will be based exclusively on our Terms and Conditions and Fair Gaming rules.

We value our players and in the end we wouldn’t exist without them, so as an apology of more than words and as a thank you for your patience we have decided to add an extra €100 to your wind. Congratulations and good luck!

Kindest Regards,
Casino Adrenaline
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Hi there,

Case can be closed, money Has been psid out. But if I can say something, this is very sąd that I received money after askgamblers intervent. I tried many times to solve this problem Wit casino adrenaline but everytime I received this same answer "money Has been refused due to ip issue with my account. Please be inforned that our decision is finaly" and that is all. Once again thank you askgamblers for help!

Best regards,
Rafał
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Dear Rafalec,

Our Fraud and Risk Management still investigating your case in order to make a fair decision. Thank you for your patience and we will come back to you as soon as possible.

Kindest Regards,
Casino Adrenaline

Casino Adrenaline Complaint Stats

Resolved 33 / 34
Avg. Amount $1,140
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Voided funds due to unclear and unproven bonus terms violation

First, let me start off by saying that I have requested a transcript of every live chat since this has started and my email still hasn't not been sent a single one. After being told by agent and the screenshots show provided show the terms that I needed and did make my 1st deposit in the amount of 10 dollars for verification. The agent and also in the terms it states the the funds from the verification needed to be wager 1x through minimum prior to being able to request a withdrawal. For crypto deposits it required the fund be wagered 3x through prior to request a withdraw. Prior having made the deposit of $10 dollars, my balance from $440.00. Having made that deposit with crypto I to the balance down to $400.00/ This made clear that the 10 deposited was wagered as well a 3 times that 10. And just to be sure I was covered as for a the wagering requirements for the verification deposited funds I left 20 still on the account and made the request to with 380.00. Withdrawal for $380 was rejected and the funds were not returned back to my balance as the now say they were voided. In a catch twenty-two the reason was terms violation for "mixing" funds. I did exactly move by move play by play what there live chat support agents also in black and white what there terms state need to be done in order to make a withdrawal and have it be from your first withdrawal having to still need to make a 1-time verification deposit what happened. This is what there terms stated and what the agent told me I needed to do to get my balance withdrawn. That was my 1st withdrawal after making my 1st deposit in order for verification to make that withdrawal I had to make a deposit of $10 1st period then in order to withdraw the money I had to wager through the deposit I had just made Or else I wouldn't be able to make the withdrawal. There was no mixing of funds and I would never try to go against the bonus terms or do anything that would jeopardize the Available balance and I was only doing what I was told I needed to do in order to make and process that withdrawal via the terms. Please get back to me as soon as possible so that way we can get this fixed as I have been told by live chat and by there pitboss and email support those fund are voided and that I have been mistaken and violated there terms. List In every email and ever live chat which there were 6 separate live chat transcripts from individual agent who 5 out of the 6 just closed the chat and hung up on me, The last one gave me the common courtesy of not doing that. But none of them could or did answer me when I asked them what the procedure would be and where I went wrong in making the request and deposit. How would someone "properly" of withdrawn those funds. No one answered me. Because they know as do two of my good buddies who referred me to them know that that procedure and the process that followed was the exact way to cover all ends and make sure all terms are being met. Finally one of the last thing they said during the final and last live chat I had about 50 minutes ago was that the way would've been to make that deposit, do no wagering and requested the withdrawal of 440.00. I wish I am joking here but I am not. As this I know to be the procedure of some other types of welcome no deposit free spin pokies casinos out there. The real time gaming and there sister casinoextreme.eu for example. But see I was specifically told not just by my buddy's who've been through this process and successfully withdrawn but by there own live chat support and specifically in their terms I have provided screenshots of that any and all funds need to be wagered through once or 3 time depending on the funding source. They know i would've been glad to not of wagered anything and requested that immediately right away. The agent responded and said that this is the procedure because with that 10-dollar deposit the required the documents as well. And that when I caught him in a bold face lie because I have emails sent to other players and myself after having uploaded identity documents them asking and requesting the when take those files back and that as we are crypto depositors that there no need for identification documentation. He didn't hang up that chat but only responded back with your not getting the 380.00 refunded to your account. P.S I have more files to provide like the screenshots I was referring to and the emails as I was only able to upload 5 documents when sending this in. If they ever actually send my the transcripts of the live chat supports that I requested each and every time I had one I will happily send those ein too. People need to know that this is a bait and hook and one of the oldest tricks in the book that shade tree casino use to take advantage of player and or try to get of of having to pay out funds. And the exact type of crap that gives us hobbyist players and all online casinos a bad rep and look and this has to stop and they need to reimburse the funds ether.

NOW IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME:

Could you please advise if your account is already verified and if yes, since when exactly? Did you accumulate your winnings with real money or did you use a bonus? If bonus, what kind of? When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?

I WOULD REPLY:

Yes, my account is verified. They verify accounts with a minimum deposit equivalent of $10 USD in the cryptocurrency of your choice. No documents need to be uploaded and if you do upload identifying documents, you receive an email asking you to remove them from that section of your account, along with a statement from someone from support letting you know that that no documents are needed because of being a crypto depositors and to kindly remove those documents. So my account got verified the moment when the my first deposit of $10.00 hit my account wallets balance. I did recieve and played 100 free spins from them prior to that deposit. For being a new player, their welcome gift is 100 free spins and can be activated in the promocode section using the code "ADRENALINE". The free spins did have a high wagering/play-through requirment. I think between 30x-50x. I managed to complete that requirement and had around $350.00 dollars in my balance. At this point, I reached out to support to ask to make sure my playthrough requirement was completed and also how I could go about withdrawing them funds. I was told and I qoute, "I had completed the wagering, but that I could not request a withdrawel of those funds yet. That those funds can be played and used in any section of their casino to continue enjoying their slots, tables, etc. But that in order to withdraw my funds from my account, I would first need to verify my account. That in order for me to verify my account, I needed to make a verification deposit. A verification deposit that requires me to fund my wallet with at least one deposit containing the minimum funds amount equivalent to $10. I was told after those funds are deposited, to be aware of their terms for any deposits and funds being added, that any account holder who funds their accounts wallet needs to wager those funds a minimum of 1x prior to before they will grant any withdrawal. Also that theres a 3x wagering requirement of deposited funds for those who have chosen to fund their accounts using crypto. This is in order to prevent fraud and money laundering. That only after I had accomplished those steps and completed all the requirements and followed theirs terms that I could go to my wallet and request a withdrawal and it be granted. And the answer your final question the last time I spoke to the casino was about two weeks ago. It was through live chat and was about the voided funds. The update on my request for those funds to be returned to my balance due to my explanation of,"mixing funds" as that was what they said the cause of the funds being voided. Told them that I would file a dispute and grievance if needed but that I wanted them to have the opportunity to review the issue in house. I was told that those funds were voided, I violated their terms by, "mixing funds", and that I would not be getting them returned to me.

Status solved Resolved
$50
Took my money and wont reimburse
I played a 100% match bonus at adrenaline casino. I deposited $90 and was matched with an additional $90 for a total of about 180. The wager was one times and the max cash out was none. I always make sure I read very carefully before I use any bonuses so I started out with a little over 10.??? in btc and after about 3 minutes of playing and about 20 spins in, my balance suddenly changes to zero and a pop up says out of money but the last spin I had 5.???, so in short I started out around $180 then 3 min later got down to almost 90 and then it took it all away suddenly. When I went to chat to inquire what was going on and where my money went they told me to hold while they looked into it and then continued to keep me waiting for 5 to 10 minutes before coming back and telling me that I need to send an email to the pit boss and he’ll explain what happened that they are not able to tell me anything, so after arguing about why they can’t tell me now and why do I have to email, I do send a email to the pit boss about the situation, but I’m also still in chat with the rep who then tells me a few more minutes later that there’s so sorry it was a system error, and that it will be fixed that I just need to wait on the manager or pit boss and I am sure that I will be more than happy with the offer that he will provide me with. About an hour or so later I get a reply back from the pit boss very short sentence or two saying that sorry for the situation and to wait on a response. One of the reps will get back to me and help me with it so basically they’re going back-and-forth giving me the runaround, so I go back in chat and also reply to the pit bosses email and let them know they’re pointing the finger at each other when it comes to fixing situation. Why don’t they just fix it and chat at this moment if it’s a system error then all they need to do is give my money back in the chat. The rep said that it took the $90 bonus money from my account so basically I deposited $90 and then added their $90 bonus to it. I played $90 and then they took $90 away from me for no reason and for some reason I am waiting and waiting to get it to be fixed. They’re giving me the runaround about fixing it telling me to email this person email that person about it. I don’t understand why they can’t just fix it in chat all they have to do is give me the $90 or whatever they took out back. . When I received the email I went back to chat and told them the pitboss said the reps will let me know but the tried to tell me the email what is an automated email and it was not as you can see an automated email if it was, it would say so at the bottom and it does not. I don’t understand what is going on if it’s a system error on their part why don’t they just gave me the money back? now, anytime I try to open a chat and when they see it’s me they either never respond or automatically end the chat. I have screenshots and copies of the email and the chat.
Status solved Resolved
$90