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Unfair confiscation of big win


On the 14th of May I deposited $750 into my Sportsbetting.ag account. I was awarded a bonus. So I clicked on the bonus games tab and opened one of their slots. I lost the balance playing their slots.

I then made another deposit of $750 and was awarded another bonus. This time I hit a big win. I continued playing and was taking very big risks during the rollover and they could easily have won back what I had won.

Soon after I received an email telling me this email:

Hello Ms. < personal info removed >,

This is Rosie from Customer Support, hope you're doing well by the time this e-mail reaches you.

After further review of your bonus play, the decision has been made to remove the casino bonus due to Bonus Arbitrage rule.

Bonuses are for recreational players and SportsBetting.ag reserves the right to deny and/or cancel bonuses and/or winnings from said bonuses if management determines a player to be non-recreational, an arbitrage bettor, a scalper, a bonus arbitrager, or part of a syndicate - without further explanation.

Professional players or players considered by us to be abusing the bonus system may have bonuses revoked and be subject to further sanctions, including, but not limited to, closing your account. Bonus abuse may be defined as (but not restricted to) players requesting payouts for the purpose of re-depositing, depositing over an existing balance, or referring new accounts that they are using themselves.

Sanctions may be in the form of increased rollover requirements or loss of bonus privileges altogether for the offending Account as well as any linked Accounts.

We reserve the right to restrict eligibility for special offers and bonuses when necessary.

Regards,
Rosie < personal info removed >

Customer Support Department

I don’t understand this email at all. They are using the Bonus Arbitrage rule which seems to contain several vague clauses. But let's review what actually happened: I deposited and received the first bonus. I opened a bonus slot and played until the balance was at zero. So there was no active bonus or rollover left on the account. I then deposited again and received a second bonus. This time I happened to win some money. Where is the rule breach in that? Unless winning is specifically against the rules. Are people who happen to win with the bonus automatically deemed to be arbitrage bettors!? That seems mad. It looks to me like I won an amount large enough that they would prefer not to pay.

I don’t know what choice I had other than to publish my experience here. I am very disappointed and surprised at how this casino is treating me. I have played within the rules, taken big risks, was enjoying the games and looking forward to continue playing there. I hope that this can be made right.

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User name

AskGamblers Complaints Team have been provided with sufficient information and have reasonable grounds in regards of this complaint to confirm the fact that Sports Betting Casino acted in full compliance with their Terms & Conditions.

Based on the above AskGamblers Complaints Team consider the case as resolved and it being officially closed now. In case of a disagreement with our decision we recommend player to seek further assistance on the matter from the relevant regulatory body.

User name
Hello,

The player came in and deposited to obtain bonus funds, exhausted the bonus and before touching any deposited funds, deposited again to claim another bonus. This essentially creates a risk free game for the player, with original deposits being untouched. Upon the second bonus, the player did accumulate a win, which was done so after terms were broken on the site. ( If any pattern of “recycling”, “churning” (defn. ‘money being withdrawn and redeposit in effort to accrue or profit from bonuses’) or “bonus arbitrage” (defn. ‘accounts being managed in an effort to accrue or profit from bonuses’) is detected, all bonuses and all winnings from said bonuses will be removed from account without notice.)

As this was a breach of our bonus terms, the winnings were then deemed null.

Regards,
Sportsbetting.ag Support
User name

Dear Sports Betting Casino,

AskGamblers Complaints Team is kindly asking you to explain in much greater details, how exactly the player violated the aforementioned rule/s?

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Where have I “churned” anything at all?? All I did is deposit, lose and deposit again. If I’m churning because I claimed both a first and second deposit bonus then by your definition simply claiming the second deposit bonus would be churning. Why would you offer a second deposit bonus if the simple act of taking it would be defined as abusive?
And looking at point 1 my having won now qualifies me as some sort of pro who is abusing your system?? All I did is open one slot and bet the same amount repeatedly. I never even changed games or my bet. There were no rules against how I played. And now you’re making vague accusations of me playing abusively. I don’t think you’re treating me fairly. I ask that you either please tell me exactly what I did wrong or do the decent thing and pay me the money that I won from you fair and square.

Sports Betting Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 5 / 9
Avg. Amount $10,340
Avg. Complaint Duration 10 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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20k Missing with No Explanation and Refuses to Provide Transactions History

I am opening this complaint, only after having tried and failed to communicate, or settle this with SportsBetting.

I opened an account on 11/10/2022, made some deposits, and played a random selection of slots they offer. I ended up on a hot streak, at one point having my balance hit around $25,000.

I ended up losing roughly $4,000 - $5,000 and submitted a payout request for $20,000 via bitcoin. This request was reviewed and denied in less then an hour, and I was told to contact their support/security by calling their number from the phone attached to the account.

This was no problem, and I quickly called and began answering questions. After a couple minutes of answering basic questions, the tone and demeanour of the agent quickly shifted. I was placed on hold for a brief amount of time and when he returned, the conversation was apparently over, as he said that he had no more questions, and to send my documentation to their support, so that I could get verified and request a withdrawal.

This entire interaction start-to-finish was between five - ten minutes. When I sat back down at my pc, I clicked to a new page, I quickly became aware that my balance was now $0.01. Assuming this must be due to the $20,000 request still being pending or something, I quickly jump right back on live support, and speak with an agent, who informs me that there is no error, my balance is now $.0.01

I am informed that I somehow spent $20,000 in the casino, while I was speaking to support to get my payment set. Since this never happened, and I know for a fact that I did not somehow manage to wipe out my entire balance, while being verified, I requested basic pieces of information, which would clearly show the mistake was not on my end, and whatever is happening, it is not coming from me.

- I requested the transaction/history log of my recent game play. This is something I believe every online casino has, especially a large name like Sportsbetting, but I am in repeatedly told that it is impossible to retrieve this data.

- This transaction log has been the only thing I requested from Sportsbetting, and for reasons unknown to me, this is virtually impossible to receive this.

- I asked how it would be possible to wager and lost around $20,000 on a slot game that has a max bet of $20 - $25. They offered no explanation, or interest in this, and told me nothing besides "you wagered and lost, we cannot provide any logs"

I have repeatedly contacted support, security, and anyone else who may have been able to help, but I received nothing but responses weeks later, telling me their team looked into it, and they can see nobody logged into my account from a different IP address, and they cannot provide any documents, nor can they help me.

I never told them I thought someone logged in to my account and lost that money, because they time frame + the amount lost would be impossible.

The session cookies provided when you login to your account, seem designed to be used not just by sportsbetting, but maybe also the providers of some of their various slot games.

Months later, I still have not received any answers, only what feels to be a cover up, or stonewalling. If I lost $20,000 in five minutes, why could the log not be provided showing how this is possible?

I deposited at Sportsbetting because of the high ranks, reviews, and posts around the internet, which seemed to offer credibility to this brand. However, I feel as though I was misguided regarding the credibility of this sportsbook.

I would like to see my betting activity for that time period, and explained why the transaction history log on my account right now is not showing the $20,000 that was removed.

I request to receive my original payout of $20,000 via bitcoin.

Status unsolved Unresolved
$20,000