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By Dreaho
6 years ago
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Hi there,
I was hoping you guys could help me with my issue. I deposited $150 and received a $60 bonus at Dream Vegas. While playing through my wagering requirements I bought a bonus feature for $80. This feature was for the game Legacy of Ra. My bet was for $0.80 and the bonus feature can be bought for 100x the bet, allowing you to be guaranteed the bonus feature. I have always been very careful not to bet anywhere near the maximum amount which is $5 and did not in any way think that buying a bonus feature was a bet since my bet was still only $0.80. The casino ended up confiscating $4550 in winnings because I have breached their terms. Nowhere in their terms do I see that this is not allowed. They even list games that contribute 0% towards wagering requirements which are restricted. When you enter these games your bonus funds do not show up. No where in this list does the bonus feature show up as being restricted. As an average player I feel that this situation needs to be clearly defined in their terms. I noticed a similar situation that was resolved through you guys. https:­//w­ww.a­sk­gam­ble­rs.c­om­/ca­sin­o-c­omp­lai­nts­/dr­eam­-ve­gas­-ca­sin­o-w­inn­ing­s-c­onf­isc­ate­d-d­ue-­to-­mys­ter­iou­s-b­et-­in-­vio­lat­ion­-of­-bo­nus­-terms
Please help.
Disputed Casino Dream Vegas Casino
Amount $250

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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Dream Vegas Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

User name loyalty-level-2
I found the following information online from the Code of Commercial Communications Consultation Document-FINAL. It states the following:
Part VI – Misleading and Unfair Promotional Mechanisms
14. Promotional schemes operated by authorised persons shall be subject to Parts V – VIII
of the Consumer Affairs Act (Cap. 378 of the Laws of Malta).
15. (a) ii.A scheme cannot omit or hide material information, or present it in a manner which is
unclear, unintelligible or ambiguous;
iii.A scheme must delineate all material information, including wagering and deposit
requirements which must be fulfilled by a player in order to become entitled thereto,
as well as all or any applicable restrictions or other conditions in a clear and
unambiguous manner:
Provided that any ambiguity shall be interpreted in a way that is least prejudicial to
the player;

I believe it is therefore the law to be specific in regards to the bonus and wagering terms outlining "any applicable restrictions or other conditions". The ambiguity in this case is certainly not in my favor.
User name loyalty-level-2
Askgamblers or Dream Vegas, would I be able to get a copy of the game-play please? I find it rather suspicious that I am no longer able to look at my history of gameplay on the Dream Vegas site.
User name
@AskGamblers we have sent you DREAHO game-play , as well as an index of the breaches on tab 2

DREAHO, your latest information has been sent to the relevant department.

Regards,
Dream Vegas Casino

Dream Vegas Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 21 / 29
Avg. Amount $5,319
Avg. Complaint Duration 6 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Over 3 weeks and still not received my withdrawal

The issue that I have experienced was: At Dream Vegas Casino one of White Hat Gamings On the 12/05/2022 at 19:08:55 I withdrew £2800 on the 13/05/2022 at 21:22 My withdrawal was accepted and processed. However, this is where it goes very very wrong. I had two PayPal emails on my account one as <email address removed> and the other as <email address removed> which is now my PayPal email as I recently changed it from <removed>.

For some strange reason, the casino took it upon itself to send it to <email address removed> an email address I have NEVER EVER used for PayPal and certainly have NEVER EVER deposited from at the casino. I have always thought that UKGC anti-laundering rules mean your withdrawals should be sent back to the payment method you deposited from. I have been in touch with Dream Vegas many many times over the past 22 days via live chat and multiple emails and their customer service is shocking, to say the least, staff have very little knowledge and are very abrupt and rude. This is an error that Dream Vegas has made yet I'm being treated like it's my fault. I would like something done about this matter URGENTLY

It occurred on: 2022-05-13

This meant that I feel belittled and frustrated

I want my withdrawal sent to my correct PayPal email.

I look forward to your prompt response on this matter. As recommended by Trading Standards, I would like to keep a complete record of my case, so please reply to this email address.

Yours faithfully,

<full name removed>

Account number <removed>

DREAM VEGAS CASINO


<full address removed>

Status unsolved Unresolved
£2,800
$15,000 not paid out and account closed
I attempted to withdraw $3000CAD via e-transfer on September 27th and everything seemed fine. It showed in my casino account it was processed and I even received my gigadebt withdraw email. So I assumed I'd have the money relatively soon.

October 1st I spoke with TJ in chat who first told me it was paid out and I'd recieve it soon, then upon further investigation he mentioned it was a issue with interac. I told him it was a lil stressful not getting it yet because I wanted to use my winnings to help my father with the mortgage (not pay my own bills but as a gift to help him) chat TJ did mention I shouldn't use the money for bills witch I completely understand, I simply mentioned I'd never had a e transfer withdraw issue before so I counted on the money I was gifting my dad and felt stressed I didn't have it to help him yet.

The next Chat I spoke to was Jacob on October 2nd. I told him the same thing being the honest person I am and said that reason I was so persistent is that I was wanting to give my dad money to help with his mortgage. I even told him how much when he asked. He then told me he was closing my account and I had breached the terms for problem gambling and sent me some links for help. I was thinking huh?? I don't have a problem, I just figured if I mentioned my good intentions to gift most of it they might be more understanding/quicker.

At this time I also had an almost $12,000 cash balance and about 250,000 loyalty points. I believe this was an attempt to (for a lack of better words) "get rid of me" because I had so much more to cash out. It is now October 12th and I have yet to see a penny. I've played tag with accounting & chat off and on but I have been told multiple times it's being escalated to deal with my original $3000 and the almost $12,000 balance in my account.
This isn't me trying to trash Dream Vegas, I think they are a great casino. I don't think it's fair that they closed my account due to me wanting to help my father, as well why does one chat block me and the other not? I told them both what I was using it for...

I hope Askgamblers can help mediate this issue because I'm worried that on my own I will just be blown off again and again or eventually Ignored...
Status unsolved Unresolved
$15,000