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Unfairlry removed 200,000 NOK of legitimate winnings


7 years ago
I will try to make this short, after our dialogue on e-mail and the clear evidences I have sent you:

A couple of weeks ago I opened an account at Dream Vegas. I did a deposit of 1500 NOK, and I got a bonus of 3000 NOK. Even before the bonus money was touched, I started winning big. After some days I did withdrawals of 50.000 NOK. At this point, I still had 50.000 NOK left on my balance.

As you have gotten evidence of, I took a screen shot at this point, clearly showing both 50.000 NOK out for withdrawal, and 50.000 NOK in my balance. In the same picture you can see "Bonus Balance: 0.00 NOK".

That means that all wagering demands already is met, completed and done.

The next 24 hours after this, I kept playing till my balance was at a total of 150.000 NOK. I also sent you the screen shot at this point, with all this money won OUTSIDE the wagering/bonus money, completely separated from the welcome bonus.

The next day I logged in to my account again, only to find out that Dream Vegas had swiped out 50.000 NOK pending for payout, along with 148.500 NOK from my balance! Over 20.000 euros. As you can imagine, I was shocked.

They said that I had broken the rule of welcome bonus because I had played for over 50 NOK per bet. Unfortunately for them, I have a lot of experience with casinos, and I know that it can be a problem to get your money if you win big.

Therefore, I took a total of over 20 screen shots, showing balances, winnings, withdrawals, dates, everything from day one.
As you can clearly see from my evidence, at least 150.000 NOK of this money is won fairly, outside ANY rules of wagering, bet limits, etc.

Hopefully, you can help me claim my rightfully earned winnings back, so I don't have to take this process through the legal system. Thank you.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Dream Vegas Casino management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions. Player breached maximum betting amount of 50KR, while bonus was in play, moreover he continue to play with these funds and accumulated his winnings. By his actions he was not entitled to his winnings after bonus were cleared.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

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Hi DIAMOND884
Thanks for your respond. As you know, you exceeded NOK50 whilst the welcome bonus was in play.

The Welcome Bonus terms are clearly outlined and accessible on the Promotions page, as well the Promotional Terms and conditions, as follows:

https:­­//­w­w­w.d­­re­­am­v­e­ga­­s.c­­om­/­e­n/­­pro­­mo­tions



https:­­//­w­w­w.d­­re­­am­v­e­ga­­s.c­­om­/­e­n/­­pro­­mo­terms


As a result of the breaches that occurred, the withdrawal was cancelled, the winnings confiscated and the deposit of NOK1,500 made, was returned to the depositing method that it originated from on 5 February 2019 and would have cleared within 2 - 5 business days thereafter.


@AskGamblers we have sent you an email with the full game-play, as well as the breaches that occurred.


If you feel there is something else you want us to escalate, please email us at suppor­t@d­rea­mve­gas.com or contact us via our live chat. From here we can send you your full game play that we have sent to @AskGamblers.

Kind Regards
Dream Vegas Casino
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Thanks for your reply, even tho you only are repeating yourself.

I know I played for more than 50NOK a bet at some point while the welcome bonus was in play, but that is not the point if you read my complain properly.

The welcome bonus, wagering, everything was done and completed. At this point I had pending withdrawals of 50.000 NOK.

AFTER THIS I won around 220.000 NOK, and played down to 150.000 NOK before I stopped.
The wagering was long done, and met by at least 100x times at this point!

Do you understand what I am trying to say? You have no right to take the 150.000 NOK I won long after, without anything attached.

It seems like I need to make one thing clear; I will fight this case till I get my rightfully earned winnings.
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Hi DIAMOND884
Our team has noted that you were found to be in breach of Clause 7(vi) of our Promotional Terms and Conditions https:­//w­ww.d­re­amv­ega­s.c­om/­en/­pro­mot­erms, which state '(vi) The maximum bet allowed while the Welcome Bonus is in play is 50kr. Should You bet higher than this while the Welcome bonus is in play, the casino reserves the right to confiscate all winnings.'

This was as a result of placing 839 bets exceeding NOK50 whilst the welcome bonus was in play.

The Welcome Bonus terms are clearly outlined and accessible on the Promotions page, as well the Promotional Terms and conditions, as follows:

https:­//w­ww.d­re­amv­ega­s.c­om/­en/­pro­motions



https:­//w­ww.d­re­amv­ega­s.c­om/­en/­pro­moterms


As a result of the breaches that occurred, the withdrawal was cancelled, the winnings confiscated and the deposit of NOK1,500 made, was returned to the depositing method that it originated from on 5 February 2019 and would have cleared within 2 - 5 business days thereafter.


@AskGamblers we have sent you an email with the full game-play, as well as the breaches that occurred.

We hope this helps to understand your case.

Kind Regards
Dream Vegas Casino

Dream Vegas Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 21 / 29
Avg. Amount $5,319
Avg. Complaint Duration 6 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Over 3 weeks and still not received my withdrawal

The issue that I have experienced was: At Dream Vegas Casino one of White Hat Gamings On the 12/05/2022 at 19:08:55 I withdrew £2800 on the 13/05/2022 at 21:22 My withdrawal was accepted and processed. However, this is where it goes very very wrong. I had two PayPal emails on my account one as <email address removed> and the other as <email address removed> which is now my PayPal email as I recently changed it from <removed>.

For some strange reason, the casino took it upon itself to send it to <email address removed> an email address I have NEVER EVER used for PayPal and certainly have NEVER EVER deposited from at the casino. I have always thought that UKGC anti-laundering rules mean your withdrawals should be sent back to the payment method you deposited from. I have been in touch with Dream Vegas many many times over the past 22 days via live chat and multiple emails and their customer service is shocking, to say the least, staff have very little knowledge and are very abrupt and rude. This is an error that Dream Vegas has made yet I'm being treated like it's my fault. I would like something done about this matter URGENTLY

It occurred on: 2022-05-13

This meant that I feel belittled and frustrated

I want my withdrawal sent to my correct PayPal email.

I look forward to your prompt response on this matter. As recommended by Trading Standards, I would like to keep a complete record of my case, so please reply to this email address.

Yours faithfully,

<full name removed>

Account number <removed>

DREAM VEGAS CASINO


<full address removed>

Status unsolved Unresolved
£2,800
$15,000 not paid out and account closed
I attempted to withdraw $3000CAD via e-transfer on September 27th and everything seemed fine. It showed in my casino account it was processed and I even received my gigadebt withdraw email. So I assumed I'd have the money relatively soon.

October 1st I spoke with TJ in chat who first told me it was paid out and I'd recieve it soon, then upon further investigation he mentioned it was a issue with interac. I told him it was a lil stressful not getting it yet because I wanted to use my winnings to help my father with the mortgage (not pay my own bills but as a gift to help him) chat TJ did mention I shouldn't use the money for bills witch I completely understand, I simply mentioned I'd never had a e transfer withdraw issue before so I counted on the money I was gifting my dad and felt stressed I didn't have it to help him yet.

The next Chat I spoke to was Jacob on October 2nd. I told him the same thing being the honest person I am and said that reason I was so persistent is that I was wanting to give my dad money to help with his mortgage. I even told him how much when he asked. He then told me he was closing my account and I had breached the terms for problem gambling and sent me some links for help. I was thinking huh?? I don't have a problem, I just figured if I mentioned my good intentions to gift most of it they might be more understanding/quicker.

At this time I also had an almost $12,000 cash balance and about 250,000 loyalty points. I believe this was an attempt to (for a lack of better words) "get rid of me" because I had so much more to cash out. It is now October 12th and I have yet to see a penny. I've played tag with accounting & chat off and on but I have been told multiple times it's being escalated to deal with my original $3000 and the almost $12,000 balance in my account.
This isn't me trying to trash Dream Vegas, I think they are a great casino. I don't think it's fair that they closed my account due to me wanting to help my father, as well why does one chat block me and the other not? I told them both what I was using it for...

I hope Askgamblers can help mediate this issue because I'm worried that on my own I will just be blown off again and again or eventually Ignored...
Status unsolved Unresolved
$15,000