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I tried to withdraw 2000€ this month and I received an email that the withdrawal was not approved and I should contact support. I did this and I was told that I cant withdraw because I havent deposited in 3 months. I tried to do a deposit then with Neteller and it was also denied. I was told Neteller was never acccepted for german players , which was a lie because I only used this method for depositing. I then asked where in the terms it states that I have to deposit after 3 months time in order to make a withdrawal. I was told its in 6.1. and more specifically here:

"All withdrawals from unverified players must be thoroughly checked as per our payout management procedures before being processed. When it becomes evident that a player never had the intention to carry out any betting activity with us, the player should be informed that funds will not be processed until his identity, age and place of residence is proven beyond doubt and/or a period of at least three months has elapsed from when the deposit was made."

I am not an unveriefied player. I got verified months ago and I did play a lot since then (500k of bets!) so that paragraph doesnt even address to me, but even if it did, it would say "not processed... until ... three months has elapsed from when the deposit was made"

I have tried to explain them that nowhere there it states what they say, but they claim they "have our terms and you have accepted them".
Disputed Casino Casino Sieger
Amount €2000

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User name
Dear @Sandrassss,

AskGamblers Complaints Team believe that we were pretty clear and eloquent in our stance on the matter referring to your denied payment. Since you confirmed the payment was finally received, we consider the case as successfully resolved and it is being officially closed now. As for your concerns regarding the fairness of particular casino and/or bonus term/s, please feel free to forward these in front of the relevant regulatory body which is the only authorized organization capable to influence somehow and/or force potential changes into these rules.
User name loyalty-level-2
I confirm that I received the withdrawal now after months of struggle. I want to emphasize that even now this complaint is NOT resolved because the complaint was about misinterpretation of own terms and I only got paid after I did what they asked even if they had no right to ask for that. I just gave in to the blackmailing because this seemed the only chance to get paid. It doesnt resolve the issue of the blackmailing itself!
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Dear Sandra,

I have to apologize in behalf of the Casino Sieger but we just realized there have been a slight misunderstanding in the internal communication in regards to your last payout wire.

The funds have been wired on 1st April but to your bank account.

We apologize again sincerely and ask you to check your bank account as those funds should have already reached you.

Kind regards,

Marie
Casino Sieger team
User name loyalty-level-2
So what is your excuse this time?
1. Why should the payment bounce from my bank when previous withdrawals always went through?
2. Why do you suddenly process to Neteller when until now you always claimed this was not possible?
3. I never saw a processed Neteller payment that did not reflect in my account immediately, so what is going on here now?

Casino Sieger Complaint Stats

Resolved 50 / 59
Avg. Amount $2,286
Avg. Complaint Duration 7 days
Avg. Response Time 3 days

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Casino still didn't payout 3000 EUR since April

This is the second time I have filed this complaint.

After my first complaint 10 days ago about a payout of 5000Euro. On 02-04-24 I withdrawed 5000 Euro from the site Casino Sieger. After a few days, the payout was approved.

Then I was told that the payout would be done in installments. This was not the first time I had done a withdrawal on the site and I received all my withdrawals on my bank account but certainly not without any issues.

Every time I had done a withdrawal there was a lot of mailing and asking before I finally received my funds. Same case now.

10 days ago I received only 1 installment of 1000Euro. The strange thing is that the day after I filled in the complaint I finally received a second installment of 1000 Euro and a reply via email that there were issues with their payment department.

This is standard every time. In the beginning, they always declared that the payment was done by their payment department, and after many times asking and after I had to proof that I still not received it they then letting me now that there where issues and that they pay me out with weeks of delay.

So now after almost 2 months I still need to recieve 3 installments of 1000 Euro.

Now they even don't reply to my emails when I ask when these will be done.

How come a casino that receives 1000s and 1000s of euros/dollars a day is not able to pay out 5000 Euros properly?

Really hope you can help fix this problem.

Kristof

Status unsolved Unresolved
€3,000
Very long withdrawal time

For quite some time, withdrawals on Casino Sieger were not an issue but recently they have done complete 180 and it seems there's always some sort of a problem with withdrawals. Here and there, they were late, usually week or even 2, with sending the funds to my bank account but this time they have exceeded their previous withdrawal problems.

On 4th of June I have requested withdrawal of 150e. After seeing that my request was still pending after 48hours (which is their max cap for approval) I have contacted their live support. I have gotten the generic answer that relevant department is currently checking my request and things will be soon resolved. I gave them additional 48hours.

After what was then 96 hours where my withdrawal was still not approved I have contacted support again with question what is going on. I have gotten a pretty similar response that they had some issues with their payment provider and things are going through right now and I should have my funds credited within few days.

Few days go by, my withdrawal is still pending. I contact support and they give me an answer that they have some technical issues and there is a queue of withdrawals they have to sort through and mine will be very soon sorted out.

Then its 7 days and I give up and cancel my withdrawal based on trusting them they had technical issues and play with funds I have previously requested. I made even some additional wins and request a withdrawal again.

This time its been now 12 days of withdrawal being in pending state of action and live support gives me the same 3 generis answers every time. Relevant department is going through you withdrawal and it should be resolved soon.

This is now in total of 3 weeks of my withdrawal being in pending state of action. They do not response on my e-mail sent to support and quite frankly I don't see them resolving this issue.

Status solved Resolved
€200
Withdrawals not received and account blocked

Hello.

I've been playing on different Condor Gaming casinos for few months after I find these through AskGamblers website. I have multiple withdrawals which have been approved by them, but those have never reached my bank account.

The first missing withdrawal of 756€ was made 12/04/2023 and approved 14/04/2023 from Casino Sieger. The second withdrawal worth of 4534€ was made 21/04/2023.

Right after the second withdrawal I was asked for the Source of funds documents which I provided and they approved those on 25/04/2023.

02/05/2023 I received an email that the second withdrawal has been approved but splitted in 1000€ instalments. The first instalment was sent on that date, second instalment 11/05/2023 and the third 26/05/2023.

I've received none of those 4 payments.

I informed them of the missing money 10/05/2023 and provided them the bank statement they wanted on 11/05/2023 showing I haven't received the money. After this they confirmed the money haven't reached my bank account and told me they'd started their own investigation into the matter. On 20/05/2023 I contacted them asking them to solve the case ASAP as I had not heard anything after they told me they'd started the investigation and I stressed out how long this had already taken. They responded me 22/05/2023 telling me that I "can expect positive feedback very soon". On 26/05/2023 I asked them update for the case and told them, that I'll file a complaint if the stalling just continues. They answered me with generic nonsense and asked for patience assuring me that they are doing "everything in their power to reach a satisfactory solution".

Today 31/05/2023 I tried to log in to my gaming accounts and all the Condor Gaming sites have blocked me without any notice. This is why I am writing this now, because I have no faith on them anymore and I feel I need some assistance to get my money.

I also have withdrawals from Tournaverse and Rembrandt which are missing. I can add the details for these, if needed or do separate complaints.

I also have screenshots from all those withdrawals made. The total money missing being somewhere around 10 000€.

I hope you can help me out with this case.

Status solved Resolved