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3 years ago

They keep asking for more and more documents for the KYC and keep canceling the withdrawals. As I saw here, that's the way they do business. I am not the first case.

I sent:

Proof of address:

DATE STATUS

2022-11-14 APPROVED

2022-09-24 APPROVED

Proof of ID

DATE STATUS

2022-09-29 APPROVED

2022-09-27 APPROVED

2022-09-24 DECLINED

Proof of Payment Method

2022-12-13 NOT_REVIEWED

2022-12-13 NOT_REVIEWED

2022-12-13 NOT_REVIEWED

2022-12-13 NOT_REVIEWED

2022-12-13 NOT_REVIEWED

2022-11-22 DECLINED

2022-11-22 DECLINED

2022-11-22 DECLINED

2022-11-22 DECLINED

2022-11-22 DECLINED

2022-11-18 APPROVED

2022-09-24 APPROVED

They approve the document but when I try to withdraw they cancel:

489252 2022-12-09 17:02:21 $-99.00 WITHDRAWAL CANCELLED

464155 2022-11-21 19:10:41 $-484.11 WITHDRAWAL CANCELLED

458581 2022-11-17 17:53:21 $-484.11 WITHDRAWAL CANCELLED

452918 2022-11-12 23:05:23 $-484.00 WITHDRAWAL CANCELLED

386198 2022-09-29 00:50:42 $-487.00 WITHDRAWAL CANCELLED


Thx for your help. I am waiting for the review of my Neteller account, but I already know that they will stall the KYC again.

Disputed Casino Nucleonbet Casino
Amount $795.93

Discussion

User name

Dear all,

We regret to inform you that following the submitter's confirmation that the issue, subject to this dispute, has already been raised with the relevant regulatory body and, taking into account the fact that the parties did not reach a mutual agreement of settling the dispute, the AskGamblers Complaint Team has no other option but to close this complaint as unresolved. As a direct consequence of such closure, the operator's ranking score on AskGamblers will be decreased accordingly. 

As soon as the AskGamblers Complaint Team is notified about the regulator's final decision on the case, we will comply and mark this complaint accordingly.

User name loyalty-level-2
Sure AskGamblers:

I sent here the email from MADRE. Including the zoom from the number of the complaint.

This is an active case under investigation.

Thx very much for your help so far.
User name

Dear @Bazzo,

Can you please confirm if you submitted an official complaint with the appointed ADR of the casino in question. We are kindly asking you to confirm this in a timely manner.

Kindly note that as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaints system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Should you fail to update your complaint within the specified timeframes, we will have no other choice but to reject the case and recommend you to forward it to the relevant regulatory body instead.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.


User name loyalty-level-2
"Dear Customer,
We would like to inform you that your withdrawal has been cancelled by the payments department and the amount of 695$ has been removed from your account due to the following terms of our Terms & Conditions and Promotional Term:
5. The maximum bet amount a player can place when having an Active Sports Bonus is equal to his/ her deposit.

11.1. The following practices in relation to the Services:

a) abuse of bonuses or other promotions (as defined in paragraph 11.4)

b) using unfair external factors or influences (commonly known as cheating)

c) taking unfair advantage (as defined in paragraph 11.4);

d) opening any Duplicate Accounts; and/or

e) undertaking fraudulent practice or criminal activity (as defined in paragraph 11.4), constitute "Prohibited Practices" and are not permitted. We will take all reasonable steps to prevent and detect such practices and to identify the relevant players concerned if they do occur.


11.2. You agree that you shall not participate in or be connected with any form of Prohibited Practice in connection with your access to or use of the Services.

11.3. If:

a) We have reasonable grounds to believe that you have participated in or have been connected with any form of Prohibited Practice (and the basis of our belief shall include the use by us of any fraud, cheating and collusion detection practices which are used in the gambling and gaming industry at the relevant time); or

b) You have placed bets and/or played online games with any other online provider of gambling services and are suspected (as a result of such play) of any Prohibited Practice or otherwise improper activity; or

c) We become aware that you have "charged back" or denied any of the purchases or deposits that you made to your account; or

d) You become bankrupt or suffer analogous proceedings anywhere in the world,

then, (including in connection with any suspension and/or termination of your account) we shall have the right, in respect of your account to withhold the whole or part of the balance and/or recover from the account the amount of any deposits, pay-outs, bonuses or winnings which have been affected by or are in any way attributable to any of the event(s) outlined in this paragraph.

11.4. For the purposes of this paragraph 11:

a) A "fraudulent practice" means any fraudulent activity engaged in by you or by any person acting on your behalf or in collusion with you, and shall include, without limitation:
fraudulent charge-backs and rake-back activity;
the use by you or any other person who was participating in the same game as you at any time, of a stolen, cloned or otherwise unauthorized credit or debit card, as a source of funds;

the collusion by you with others in order to gain an unfair advantage (including through bonus schemes or similar incentives offered by us);

any attempt to register false or misleading account information;

any actual or attempted act by you which is reasonably deemed by us to be illegal in any applicable jurisdiction, made in bad faith, or intended to defraud us and/or circumvent any contractual or legal restrictions, regardless of whether such act or attempted act actually causes us any damage or harm;



b) An "unfair advantage" shall include, without limitation:

the exploitation of a fault, loophole or error in our or any third party's software used by you in connection with the Services (including in respect of any game);

the use of automated players ('bots'), or other 3rd party software or analysis systems; or

the exploitation by you, of an 'Error' as defined in paragraph 18, in any case either to your advantage and/or to the disadvantage of us or other.




c) Bonus Abuse includes, but is not limited to:




i. breach of terms and conditions of a bonus, free bets or any other promotional offer




ii. the opening of multiple accounts to claim multiple bonuses;




iii. all bonuses are subject to bonus use limitation based on the bonus engine, and, unless stated otherwise, they shouldn't be used more that 6 times per calendar month; if for any reason a bonus code is used by an individual player over the stated amount, the Company reserves the right to further investigate bonus abusing pattern and deduct bonus winnings plus all 3rd-party charges arising from player's activity (payment fees, providers fees, etc)

Where there is a reasonable suspicion that the Account Holder has committed or attempted to commit a bonus abuse, either on their own or as part of a group, company reserves the right to:




i. forfeit the bonus allocated to the Account Holder and any winnings from that bonus, and/or




ii. revoke, deny, or withdraw a bonus offer from the Account Holder, and/or




iii. block an access to particular products, and/or




iv. exclude the Account Holder from any future promotional offers, and/or




v. terminate the Account Holder’s account with immediate effect.




12.11 Website reserves the right to close down existing accounts without explanation. In this event, or in the event of an account closure by a customer the gull balance will be paid out unless any fraudulent (e.g. Arbitrage, etc.) behavior is suspected. In case of fraudulent behavior, winnings will be voided and deposits will be refunded after we deduct the corresponding administrative and transaction fees and any fees that Website is obliged to pay to the competent authorities due to a customer’s complaint. Website also reserves the right to report to the appropriate authorities, if any customer is involved in any form of suspected fraudulent behavior.




12.11.1 As "Arbitrage" Website means the method certain players can use in order to abuse Sportsbook offers to their advantage. In such cases, we reserve the right to void bets, deduct winnings and remaining funds or return user's initial deposit at Website’s discretion. Indicators, including but not limited, that gives Website strong reasons to believe that a bettor is abusing our offers using the arbitrage system are as follows: i) one deposit only in order to receive the MAX bonus offered. ii) Starting his betting activity with one single bet, Soccer Pre event, Stake = his deposit + bonus money, on high odd (higher than 2) iii) Starting his betting activity with single bets, Soccer Pre event, Stakes totalling = his deposit + bonus money, on high odd (higher than 2) iv) Continuing his betting activity with the same pattern mentioned above, with stakes = winnings from first bet(s)







Do not hesitate to contact us in case you need any further help. Have a good day"

That is the e-mail I received. Please NucleonBet, explain to me what therms I am violating. And PROVE It!

This will be important for the MADRE Complaint. You have about 10 days to respond to MADRE and give me back my 695 USD plus the new Withdrawal (100.93 USD).

Nucleonbet Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 19 / 26
Avg. Amount $1,095
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Nucleonbet does not pay for days
I used nucleonbet casino as I received a message that I can get a 100% bonus up tp 100.- for sports betting.
I was able to make my bets on time, fulfilled the bonus and according to their T&C and have 534.- balance in the end.
On 18.4. I received an e-mail that my account is verified (even though I already had sent my verification documents before, but there an additional code was sent to my mobile phone to verify that).
My withdrawal was cancelled after that as new documents were asked for:

- A digital photo of you holding your proof of ID document in your hands, close to your face for verification purposes

- An official document issued from your mobile provider, stating your full name and mobile number used upon registration.

- As part of our commitment to providing a secure and trustworthy platform for our players, we kindly ask that you provide us with a selfie holding a paper that mentions:

Your Full Name
Your Date of Birth
Our Casino

After delivering each of those documents (the last one was asked for on 1.5.) I made a withdrawal, all of them were cancelled by the casino.
After accepting that selfie verification (all my documents were accepted) I tried to withdraw again but now that was not possible anymore due to a "system error". I asked them to be able to withdraw by a different method (bank transfer) and they asked me to try different things (different browser, different device...) but nothing worked.

Finally I was asked to send other documents to be reviewed (bank account) which were also accepted. Then bank account was visible for me as withdraw method. So I made a withdrawal. As there was no feedback within 48 hours (that's the time they say they need to process withdrawals) I again contacted the support. They told me due to high workload the process will be delayed.
Today (other 72 hours later) my balance was again back on my account and the withdrawal was cancelled. I was not even told that they (already yesterday) cancelled my withdrawal.....

I can deliver the e-Mail correspondence as well as some screenshots, also from that system error.

Thanks for your help, Michael
Status unsolved Unresolved