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Letting me open an account despite I was self excluded on the same license


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By Luc v.
5 years ago

Dear Askgamblers,

I had a active self exlusion under the license of N1 interactive ltd. when I was accepted as an new player at N1 casino. I excluded myself at the 2nd of June 2020 at Spinnia (a brand under the license of N1) and registered at N1 casino at the 10th of June 2020. An agent at Spinnia told me that when I am self excluded at Spinnia, it will be impossible to play at another brand under the N1 interactive license. When I self exluded myself at Spinnia, I self excluded myself forever. I only receive a confirmation of it. There where no questions like why I will be self exlcuded (because I have some gambling problems).

They ignoring the self exlusion at Spinnia and besides they are ignoring the responsible gambling law, by letting me open an new account at a different brand but same license, Because of that I would like my deposits back ( of a total of 780 euro's ) from N1 casino .

According to 10.1 of the responsible gambling law, the licensee(N1 interactive) should not give me any permission to gaming services.

According to 10.5.b of the responsible gambling law, I should be self exluded at all the brands of N1 interactive ltd.

According to point 11 of the responsible gambling law, N1 casino was not allowed to accepting me as a player, until I write a request to ignore my exclusion (what I didn't do!)

By the way, I registered at both casino's with the same details and same emailadress.

I hope we can solve this problem and serious issue.

Attached you will find:

the only email from Spinnia I received about my self exclusion.

The email (and time) I registered at N1 casino

The responsible gambling law.


My previous complaint was rejected because you needed my registered name emailadress etc.

Spinia:

Name: < personal info removed >

Date of birth: < personal info removed >

emailadress: < personal info removed > (also username)

Address:< personal info removed >

Phone number: < personal info removed >


N1 Casino:

Name: < personal info removed >

Date of birth: < personal info removed >

emailaddress: < personal info removed > (you could use this as username or luc66288 )

Address: < personal info removed >

Phone number: < personal info removed >


If I am right, I validated my account at both casino's with my ID.

My accounts are both self excluded and when I asked for my personal details I received the following: Unfortunately, we can't disclose personal information. So we will not be able to tell you this information. I am sure I filled in my information as above.

Also my deposits were made at both casinos from the same bank account at trustly or emailaddress ( email removed ) if it came from skrill.

If you need additional information like deposit receipts, the chat with Spinnia where they confirm that it should not be possible to open an account at N1 Casino or do you have other questions, please send me a message.

Kind regards.

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Disputed Casino N1 Casino
Reason Other
Amount €780

Discussion

User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
Dear all,

First I want to thank you to N1 casino for handling my refund very fast. I just received it!
@askgamblers, could you please mark this case as solved.

Kind regards,
User name loyalty-level-2
Dear N1,

Thank you for replying to this case!
I'm very glad to hear about the solution and that is all fine by me thank you for that!
I don't know if you have had any in contact with Spinia to handle this case but I would suggest something for your casino's.
If you are addicted or if you have troubles with gambling, it feels like a shame. When you have a choice between the live chat and just a button to self exclude yourself, a lot of people will avoid the human contact in the chat and choose for that button. Maybe it is a possibility to add a multiple choice option after you choose the self exclusion, to clarify why you would self exclude yourself. This will avoid cases like this in the future. It is just a suggestion :).

But N1, Thank you very much for offering a good solution!
When I have received the money I will ask askgamblers to mark this case as solved.

Kind regards.
User name
Hello dear LUC6628,

Sorry for the delay.

According to the information provided to N1 Casino, you have independently installed in your account self-exclusion at Spinia Casino on June 2. In this case, the limit does not apply to other projects licensed by N1 Interactive. As soon as you have notified the casino of gamblings problems(June 30), your account was blocked.

We would like to mention when a player puts a self-exclusion without any signs of gambling problems, a self-exclusion period sets up just for one project where it was initiated, not for all casinos under the same license.

Anyway, we made a decision to return all your deposits to your Trustly account. As soon as the funds are refunded, you will be informed here. Please, let us know if everything is fine with that.

Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
N1 Casino

N1 Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 33 / 34
Avg. Amount $3,576
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days
Delaying the payment of a large withdrawal

On august 9, 2024, I claimed the second deposit bonus at n1casino by depositing 1000 euros(payment attachment), and iIreceived a total of 1750 euros in my balance as it was a 75% bonus. I managed to win big with the bonus, and after meeting the wagering requirements early in the morning of august 10, 2024, my balance was 26,499.02 euros. the highest bet I placed was 4 euros (the maximum allowed bet is 5 euros), and I didn’t play any prohibited games, so everything was in accordance with the rules.

N1casino uses the external hooyu service for player verification, through which my id and address were confirmed. additionally, I provided the proof of deposit as requested by the casino. After that, I received an email from N1casino stating that the verification process was complete and that I could continue playing on the site (file1).

I then made my first withdrawal request for 4000 euros. Shortly after, however, I received a message that the withdrawal request was declined, and I was asked to send a selfie holding my id (file2). I sent this to them and tried the withdrawal again. This withdrawal request was also declined, and I was subsequently asked to provide my most recent month's payslip and screenshots of winnings from other casinos (file3). I sent them the requested payslip and a screenshot of casino winnings deposited into my account.

At this point, I received an email from them "congratulating" me on my huge win, which, given the prolonged process, felt extremely sarcastic and mocking (email). the email also repeated the same request to provide them with my payslip. despite submitting the requested documents, the issue still wasn’t resolved, so I contacted them via chat to ensure I was providing the correct documents to speed up the process. next, the customer service representative asked for my bank statement for the past month (file4). Even after submitting this, the issue wasn’t resolved. instead, i was asked to provide 6 months of bank statements, 6 months of payslips, and screenshots of withdrawals from different casino sites. here is a quote from their message:

"dear xxxxx, as we can see, you uploaded the payslip for july, but you also need to upload the same slips from february to july. additionally, you need to upload a bank statement with all your transactions (without filters) from february to the present (as a pdf file). our manager also requested a screenshot of your winnings from another casino (noted as an additional source of wealth)."

I have submitted a total of 30 documents to their site, as you can see from the attachment (file5), but the issue still hasn’t been resolved.

The most recent conversation with them was today, august 13, 2024, via chat (files 6, 7, 8). the customer service representative said that the documents had been reviewed and that I could try the withdrawal again, but they have delayed the process before, and I don’t trust that this will be resolved. When I asked a follow-up question about whether the documents were actually approved, they didn’t respond and closed the chat. I find it unreasonable that they keep asking for more documents, bit by bit, and for longer periods. as you can see, I have provided a total of 30 documents, which I submitted gradually as they kept asking for more (see file5 again).

I originally made this askgamblers complaint on august 13, 2024, because i hadn't received the funds by then. However, the first withdrawal came through on august 14, 2024, and I canceled the askgamblers complaint. Now, however, I have to reactivate it as the payment of the funds has been delayed, and the process has become difficult again. An update on that is below.

Status update as of august 27, 2024. so far, they have paid out 10,000 euros in withdrawals(august 14 5000 euros, august 21 5000 euros, files withdrawal1, 2, 3 4). today, I received a congratulatory message (file10) from them regarding my big win, and it again seemed somewhat sarcastic considering that i had already received a similar congratulatory message from them earlier. shortly after this message, however, they sent another email stating that they need further verification for the account and requested a skype call(file11). At this point, I was frustrated, but I tried to log in to my account to arrange a time for the call through chat, only to find that my account had been disabled/locked(account file)

This process has been mentally exhausting, and I am still owed over 16,000 euros, which will take time to be paid since their payment rate is 5,000 euros per week and 15,000 euros per month. i constantly fear that they will come up with something new to delay the payment of my funds.

This is made even more difficult because they hardly send any emails related to the issue and direct me to contact them via chat. later, when I try to review these chat conversations, not all of them are available on the site. I really need askgamblers' help to resolve this matter. I’m certain that this prolonged process is due to my winning a huge amount at the casino, and they are deliberately stalling in hopes that I will get frustrated and lose the entire amount somewhere else.


Thank you in advance

Status solved Resolved
€26,499
Deposit lost can't find it

I deposit ETransfer $50 and another $90 and this money went directly into their account.

So I waited to be credited usually u get credit right away but I wait for 1 hour nothing then I waited more and nothing so I looked on my bank and it said it was sent so I contact their support line and wow they don't know where my money went. They ask for the reference number which I gave and they still can't find my money. Then they wrote to me that I will get it back within 5-7 days! Hmmm it's been more than 5-7 days the money was sent on the 9th of march it's now 21st of march so I asked could u give me a date when I will receive it! They didnt even answer my question but to say they want my bank statement ???? Mm why? I am not borrowing money!! What is going on here? Now this is getting too much where is my money???

With the reference number they should be able to track my money so I provided them with my bank statement but I blacked out everything that is not related and I only left where it said they took $50 and $90 and I didn't black out money going I to my account so they can see that I did not get it back. Then they wrote no u have to unblack the statement.

I contacted my bank telling them this and they said not to do that and it sounds like I got scammed. And they said they got the money DIRECT I to their account meaning they could easily look me up by reference number, name, or even email. So it's really odd that they are asking me of this; only when you borrow money u must show this; but I AM NOT borrowing money. So I said no my bank said I should not do this and where is my money. Then they said there is nothing we can do to investigate more.

So where is my money this is not okay to take someone hard working money and ask for personal info when a reference number is all u need. Super odd. I GOT SCAMMED. But I will not stop fighting for what is mine. I will not just let this go. This is such a headache but I will be fighting for what is mine.

Status solved Resolved
$140
Delayed payment of $1,100 for a month here

Good afternoon editors and users.

I want to save you for the future from the situation that I got into and, as my complaint is confirmed, lower it in the rating at least.

A brief background, in a number of casinos there were single withdrawals up to 5 million rubles, and for me the amount that is not now paid by the casino is not critical, but fundamental.

On February 16, 2023, there was a deposit of 100 dollars, later I won 1100, which I put on withdrawal. Over the next days until February 18, I went through re-verification for the account and the card in particular, since I played on N1 for the last time more than 2 years ago, the rules themselves were changed. Verification was successfully carried out, despite the fact that, atypically for a casino, they demanded from me a photo of cards, a selfie with a card, an address certificate, an extract for 6 months, but also confirmation of income for half a year, an income questionnaire, and even monthly salary receipts-payslips ( was difficult to obtain, but achieved).

What we have as a result, from the moment of verification on February 18, the amount on the withdrawal by the method by which the deposit was made, i.e. Visa card. Rejected on the 19th, rejected again on the same day. I was asked to issue a bank transfer, which would be issued on the 19th and asked to wait up to 10 business days (although swift and others usually do not take more than 3 days), but I waited, I had no choice as such.

On March 1, the bank refused, the casino reported that the problem was on the recipient's side, although a couple of days later she said that this was for internal reasons. further from March 2nd to the current day, they demand to provide them with the following:

Make an withdrawal and record in video the console in the browser, check your connection, take a video of how I make the withdrawal, and provide them with screenshots of the available output methods (This is their website, but for some reason I have to provide this data, supposedly they do not have access to see which cashout methods available to me, utter absurdity)

Support says at the moment that the problem is in my card (Visa, what problem can be in the card, I received transactions from both US and EU within a month). And also, in the browser settings that they are currently studying and investigating

Attached a couple of chats with support, as well as screenshots with their tickets and requests to prove it

When asked how the settings of my browser or network or anything are connected with the fact that the bank does not process the transaction, no one answers me, and they also have an answer from the manager every 2 days, the support always says that they don’t know anything and not responsible.

What I want to say is that these are absolutely illogical requests, and they simply don’t want to pay me, although the amount is a penny by the standards of the casino, but their arguments and requests are just nonsense.

Status rejected Rejected
$1,100