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By Mroiri
5 years ago

On Wednesday Feb 3,I attempted to complete a “wire transfer with my correct (used before at other casinos, IBAN number). I checked my bank a few days later, no payment. A week now passed and I was checking my bank regularly but still “No Payment Received''. I then made contact with MaChance Casino to find out where my €2000 wire bank transfer withdraw had got to. Only to be told, Due to the change of law in NZ they are unable to complete a wire transfer and that “suddenly a week after me being told by them that the approved method for me is wire bank transfer” It seems a week later without any communication from MaChance to advise me there was an issue. I finally make contact to ask where the money is, I’m then told “I may only deposit and withdraw via bitcoin wallet which I do not have. This was most definitely not told to me, nor specified to deposits and withdrawals to NZ in their terms. After being told the problem was “incorrect iban” they then email me saying it is a “payment issue” so I try and email them only to get no response, even asked them to call me by phone, I received no phone call, I then attempted a second attempt to withdraw the money via my skrill account which along with wire bank transfer is still to this day, an open offered option on their site for NZ players. I have included some evidence of communication. Will I ever get my money?

Disputed Casino MaChance Casino
Amount €2000

Discussion

User name

Dear @Mroiri,

Following a careful review and consideration of your case, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached the conclusion that, unfortunately, your complaint is not compliant with the AGCCS Guidelines, section Balance played off while waiting to be paid and, therefore, is being rejected. Please keep in mind that following all AGCCS Guidelines is mandatory.

Please keep in mind that while we could understand your frustration and disappointment of probably not being paid within the time frame specified by the operator, it is up to you to refrain from playing until the processing of your payment is being finalized accordingly. Instead, you kept playing and lost your balance subsequently which means that unfortunately, you will also lost the validity of you claim against the operator which led to rejection of the complaint.

And while we understand this might not be the outcome expected by the complainant, we would like to remind that in case of disagreement with our decision further assistance on the matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body and/or appointed ADR entity.

We thank you for your cooperation

User name
Dear customer

it is not something new, it is now almost 2 years that in NZ people can deposit and withdraw only via BTC
The customer support informed you many times. All NZ players know it immediately, they can deposit only via Bitcoin.

Askgamblers, please thank you for closing this case
Best Regards
The Machance casino team.
User name loyalty-level-2
Dear Ask Gamblers,
Kindly Close this complaint and mark this complaint as Resolved!
Due to the contradicting statements, and the difficult task of opening a / the correct required bitcoin account in my country, I decided to Play the balance down as a faster way to put the problem behind me,and take it on the chin as "lesson learnt" This was a last minute fast turn around decision, However,I would like to thank you so very much for your fast acting help with this and to also let you know : It is very much appreciated by myself and I'm sure many other gamblers that come in to unforeseen circumstances with online casinos, To know that there is someone there for them and to help them just like "AskGamblers". To date there is only one casino that I hold strong, and trust them with my life because they have never made any stress causing problems for me at all,, never: contradicted themselves, told me incorrect info, withheld a payment, requested repeat endless documents before paying, judged/pressured me about not spending enough or too much, just easy fair relationship, so I will stick with them only from now on. But big thankyou to you guys Ask Gamblers, So nice to know your there, Keep up the great work team.
User name loyalty-level-2
No you did not tell me this from the start at all,If this were true,I would not have received an email stating congratulations on my win and that my withdrawal via bank transfer "is successful"!
However,Thankyou for your reply,this issue is now RESOLVED!

MaChance Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 19 / 20
Avg. Amount $3,777
Avg. Complaint Duration 6 days
Avg. Response Time 1 day

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Dropped withdrawal limit
Hello Askgamblers family,
Once again I have to complain about Machance Casino. I have a Gold status in casino and on my way to Platinum (93%) soon.
I made a small deposit and managed to win a decent amount. Then I withdrew 1500 EUR that was approved within 4 days. Got the money and was happy.
Now I see they have lowered the limit to 500 EUR per week. I read T&C and did not see anything written that this can be done with higher VIP statuses. This seems not to be anything at their point of view.
I contacted my VIP manager and she said:
"Unfortunately, I have to confirm that the withdrawal limit was set automatically by the system, based on your activity and especially the amount of withdrawals in relation to your deposits, which results to be a little unbalanced. Once a limit or VIP level was set by the system, we no longer have a manual option to modify it, since it is calculated based on specific parameters. I'm sorry to confirm that you will have to be patient if you wish to withdraw the whole amount. 😕 "
Still got 6k on my account, I have deposited probably more than 50k to the account, to me this excuse is just unacceptable.
Please can Casino rep tell how much I have to deposit or lose, so I can get my winnings in timely matter. Currently it would take at least 12 weeks to get them. In reality even longer as I can only make 1 cashout per week and it counts from the approval not the date it was made. I just want my winnings and that is all.
I can provide all screenshots of account, limit, emails with casino etc.

Regards
Status solved Resolved
€6,000
Balance held hostage, €1,500 weekly limit prolonged

Months ago I have a large win at Machance Casino. I send my documents and pass the verification. After making some withdrawals with success my balance today at the casino is €20,425. I then have to verify my account again because Machance un-verifies the account after some months to ask for new documents. I pass a difficult verification and notice that my withdrawal limits have been changed. They are now €500. They used to be €1,500.

Machance casino can only process one withdrawal in a week. Although what happens is that you ask for a withdrawal and it takes 4-5 working days to be approved. By then you are into the second week and you are then blocked by the cashier for making new requests for 7 days. In my experience you can realistically expect one withdrawal every 2 weeks because of this. So for me to receive the rest of my winnings in withdrawals of €500 it will maybe take nearly 2 years!

I send an email to Machance because I think this must be an error and asking them to increase limits. They reply saying that they will not because I have not deposited in a long time. They say to increase my limits I must make a more active account. As I said to Machance I like their games and their casino. But how can I deposit when even if they do increase back to €1,500 it will still take such a long time to be paid the balance. This is not like a normal casino where if you win they settle with one large withdrawal. Any more money that I deposit or win at the casino will be put on the back of a long queue and I will not get it back for at least months. So why would I want to do this?

Machance have me in a situation where they are holding my balance hostage unless I deposit or gamble. If I do this more money is stuck in the casino unless I lose. Losing is the only transaction that can happen quickly. I did not want to complain because if it was not for this treatment I like the casino. It is a shame that they want to punish winners. I think it is a mistake to have this policy because if I had received my win immediately like with a high quality casino I would have deposited and played by now likely many times. Machance makes no incentive to do this.

Status solved Resolved
€20,425
Casino that threatens to close my account for not paying me my winnings

Hello,

I registered at the casino with my luck during the month of March. During my registration I deposited 6 withdrawals for a total amount of 320€. Following the last deposit, I made a total gain of €28,000 on the FIRE JOKER game.

I then submitted my documents to the casino and waited for their validation. I proceeded to the first withdrawal of 1500€ as indicated in the general conditions of the casino. This was validated within 72 hours as indicated in the conditions of the casino. I made the week following the second withdrawal of €1500, however this was validated within 7 days against 48 hours indicated in the general conditions. During the 3rd withdrawal, I noticed that the casino had lowered my initial withdrawal capacities from €1,500 to €500 without informing me. I immediately contacted the casino's customer service to understand the reason for this drop. The agent told me that this drop was due to too high a withdrawal rate and that the casino had deliberately limited my withdrawal capacities.

I also found that it had not been validated under the conditions indicated for 48 hours but again in 7 days. I contacted customer service again to tell them that by delaying the approvals of my withdrawals, it would no longer allow me to make a total monthly withdrawal of €1000 against €6000 indicated in their general conditions. I decided to discuss this with a manager (Melanie) in order to solve this problem of withdrawal. This one came back to me telling me that the casino felt that I should not withdraw all of my winnings and that they offered to pay me only €2500 and close my account when the amount of my balance was of 22500€.

I refused this proposal indicating that this approach seemed dishonest to me and that I wanted to continue to withdraw all of my earnings. The manager came back to me again to threaten me that if I did not accept this proposal the casino would close my account and I would lose all my winnings.

Could you help me so that the casino can pay me my winnings as indicated in their general conditions, namely €1,500 per week with a maximum monthly amount of €6,000? I obviously took a picture of all of our exchanges in order to justify these exchanges.

I can, if you wish, make them available to you on request.


Thanks for your help

Status solved Resolved
€22,500
Refund needed

Hi,

I started signing up in MaChance Casino and I was new to online casinos at the time. I didn't know about the country restrictions. I am a Vietnamese citizen living in France.

I then immediately verified my documents and they were accepted so I just assumed that I could play on their casino. I, later, had a chat with live support and they said I could play as a Vietnamese living in France. So I trusted them. I started playing and depositing furthermore, and they kept sending emails about promotions and everything, anything to attract you deposit more and more. So I kept depositing and playing...

After a while, I learned that the law in France (or Vietnam for that matter), prohibited online casino, any online casino for that matter. And my documents were clearly French and Vietnamese and they accepted it. I feel like it's just for me to trust them and deposit. Then the chat confirmed that I could play and deposit as well.

I then decided to look at their terms and conditions and it clearly says on there that they are not allowed to accept players from France or Vietnam (as file attached below). I just felt like I was new to online casino, and I've been tricked to deposit and play, and deposit furthermore, then the chat lied to me, told me I could play, and documents not properly checked.

I sent them emails telling them that they weren't allowed to let me play from the beginning and that I was new, but now I know the rules and terms, and the law. They just accept players from forbidden countries for them to deposit, and they would verify yes to everything as long as you keep playing on their casino.

I showed them the terms and conditions and told them that they weren't allowed to take my deposits and wrongfully verified my documents from the beginning. I requested a refund of all my deposits, since this was against the law and they knew it because it's in their terms. To which email, they responded that the conditions is not updated and that France is allowed: again, lying! The law of France doesn't allow online casino! They said they would change their terms soon to allow France. What?

The law is the law, they shouldn't have allowed me to play from the beginning given my address and documents but they still did.

2 people responded to my emails, the first one doesn't seem to know the own terms of the casino and she didn't see the problem, and the second one told me the terms are outdated. That's their problem, not mine! Very unprofessional. I was very disappointed about this whole situation and my experience there, especially about the outlaw and the risk/mistake I made signing up here, on this online casino. Plus, the chats are never helpful...

I'd like to request refund of all my deposits please. They weren't supposed to happen or allowed in the first place. I need my deposits back.

Status solved Resolved