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Refuse to self-exclude me despite letting them know about my gambling addiction


Dear AskGamblers

I have tried to sent you this case before, but you told me to wait for answers from the casinos regulator. I told you that they havent answered me, and you told me to attach the mails I have sent to the regulator with the date visibly stated. I have attached the mail that was automaticly sent when I used the form to contact the regulator from Evolve Casinos website. This clearly shows what I wrote to them and the date is clearly visible in the header of the mail. The mail is attached in jpg-format.

Here you get the explanation of the case once more (btw. sorry for my bad english)

Dear Askgamblers

I have contacted you about this case before, but you denied to look at it, since I also had contacted the license provider. I have now decided to contact you again, since this casino use a Curucao license that do not respond at all. At that reason I hope you will take a look at this case, since its a very good example on a casino who simply not act according to responsible gambling.

First of all; Im gambling addicted and need help, but its hard to ask for help, when casinos like Evolve casino make it so hard to leave.

After I lost alot of money on their casino I contacted livechat to get self excluded. They told me to sent a mail, which I did with the topic "URGENT - delete account now - gambling addicted"

Some hours later they responded, just to tell me that they have forwarded the request to the relevant department.

TWO DAYS!!! later I got a mail telling me that they needed a proof of my identity to self exclude me. I was shocked! Why on earth should I sent them proof of my identity to get me self excluded? They didnt need anything when I should deposit money into their site. I asked them about that, and the only answer I could get was "its a procedure" Nowhere on their homepage it says, that you need to get verified to get you self excluded and I have never ever seen that on any other casino before.

. Anyways, I sent them what they asked for - a utility bill (payment service from my bank) and a copy of the front of my driving license.

Later that day they responded telling me that the documents was not accepted. They needed both the front and backside of my driving license and the utility bill I sent must not be a screenshot?!? How should I know that, when they didnt tell me that in the first place? It makes no sence!

Instead of senting them more documents, I asked them why they didnt do anything to prevent me from playing untill they got my documents - they knew I was addicted and actually didnt do anything to prevent me from playing. Their answer shocked me!!

They basicly said, that if they didnt get the documents they asked for, they wasnt responsible for anything.

I gave up... and played again at their casino and lost even more money. 10 days later I contacted them again telling them about my addiction once more. This time they tried to persuade me to stay at their site telling me all the benefits they give to their customers, such as cashback and other promotions.
Do they really think thats responsible gambling? Their job is not to let me keep playing, but help me getting self excluded, but the only thing they did was to make it as hard as possible to leave, and even tried to persuade me to keep playing, by telling me about cashback and other good promotions. I denied and asked them to self exclude me. Untill today they have still not self excluded me and im still able to login to the site and play.


In my eyes, this is a clear proof of how Evolve casino will do anything to prevent their users from excluding themselves. They have long response times and do not write what the requirements are for the documents to be submitted to them. They only do this after you have sent them, so that they make sure that the user can still play in the meantime. Despite the fact that I tell them countless times that I am gambling addicted, they do absolutely nothing to stop me from playing. Untill today, im still able to login to their site and play.

I mean, I'm entitled to a refund of the money I lost after I first asked to be excluded - a total of $ 175.

I have attached the whole mail correspondence I had with Evolve Casino together with a picture of me transaction history (the transactions made after I asked for self exclusion are marked with a black frame) and a picture of my profile on Evolve Casino.

I look forward to hear from you.
Disputed Casino EvolveCasino
Reason Other
Amount $175

Discussion

User name

Dear all,

As apparent from the submitter's latest post, the AskGamblers Complaint Team is pleased to announce the case has been resolved and closed.

We thank both parties for their assistance during the complaint process.

User name loyalty-level-2
Dear Askgamblers

I got my refund.

After 6 month of waiting time Evolve Casino finally seems to understand the concept of Responsible gambling, but it was first when I made a complaint in here, they finally woke up.

Evolve casino should really explain on their website that their users need to get verified if they want to be self excluded from their casino.

Thanks Askgamblers

You can mark this complaint as solved.
User name

Dear @flowplow,

Please let us know if there are any updates regarding your ongoing complaint. In case you fail to respond within the given timeframe, please be notified that we will consider your case resolved and it will be closed accordingly.

Kindly note that as per the AGCCS Terms and Guidelines which you accepted upon registering and using our complaints system, you are obliged to provide the necessary level of assistance and cooperation during the process and providing updates in a timely manner is a must.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

User name loyalty-level-2
I have recieved the message EvolveCasino just posted in here in my mailbox.
I would prefere to let the complaint stay open untill the refund is on my bank account.

Thank you

EvolveCasino Complaint Stats

Resolved 16 / 16
Avg. Amount $759
Avg. Complaint Duration 9 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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Since my first complaint against the Evolvebets.io casino could not be upheld, and based on your instructions, I am therefore reformulating the problem this casino poses for me regarding a purely and simply unfairly declined withdrawal of €859 (fraudulently, since the casino accepts my deposits but doesn't pay me).


1. I play at the Evolvebets.io casino, where I have been depositing for several months and, after a win, I requested a withdrawal of €859.

2. When I make my withdrawal, I routinely wonder about the KYC verification of my player account.

3. I am concerned that my player account appears green as verified in my casino lobby, even though, to my knowledge, I have never sent any documents. I am surprised that the casino doesn't offer to upload my documents from my player area.

4. Following my withdrawal request, I received a notification from the casino in the lobby, but not immediately, telling me that my account needed to be KYC verified.

5. I then contacted the casino via chat to inform them of my wish to verify my player account. They initially replied that they were sending the link to my inbox, where I normally receive all their communications (offers, support communications, etc.). This link didn't arrive in my inbox immediately, as I'd hoped in this type of situation. I was told to wait a bit, but still nothing, and I contacted the casino again the next day to discuss this issue. They told me they were resending the link and to check my spam (blah blah blah). I still haven't received what I'm owed, namely this infamous link.

6. During my last communication with the casino via chat in the lobby to discuss the fact that I wasn't receiving the link to verify my account, the agent asked me to refresh my account. I then ask for a refresher on what since for this term we are talking more about a web page. The person told me to refresh my inbox, which I did, but of course, still nothing. At the same time, I refreshed (not me, because I'd been getting frustrated for a while) the casino's website, and, oh surprise, the page says "your connection is not private, no connection to the casino..." And I haven't had a connection to the casino for three days. As indicated in attachment 1 with my complaint, the casino tells me that they sometimes have 256-bit SSL errors... lol.

7. The casino, of course, informed me that my withdrawal of €859 (attachment 2) had been canceled outright on the grounds that I hadn't verified my account. I told the casino how surprised I was that they wouldn't allow me to verify my account, and I still haven't received a response, of course.


So, in conclusion, this is what my complaint is based on: the taking of my deposits and the cancellation of my withdrawal under conditions that are beyond fraudulent. Disgusting.

Looking forward to hearing from you. Kind regards.

Status solved Resolved
€859
Withdrawal declined invoking unfair terms and conditions

Greetings,

Today (19/07/2022) I got my 200.13€ withdrawal decline at EvolveCasino.

I got an email informing me that my most recent withdrawal was declined and the reason was:

4.26 Bonuses offered by Evolve casino are solely intended for genuine recreational players only. Bonus/Promotional abuse will not be tolerated. Player betting patterns and activity are constantly monitored and in case of bonus abuse, Evolve casino reserves the right to cancel, suspend or lock any player account found guilty of abuse as well as void/revoke any pending gaming activity and refund the original deposit. Evolve casino can also decide at its own discretion to ban any player from participating in Evolve casino’s promotions for a definite or indefinite period of time as decided by Evolve casino’s management.

4.27 In the event that Evolve casino considers any player to have cheated, taken unfair advantage of bonuses or in other ways have acted in bad faith in relation to a promotion offered on the site, we reserve us the right to block or permanently close the players account. In the event of this Evolve casino is not obligated to refund the players assets on the account and all will be confiscated.


As you can see the reason was very generic and I asked for more information via live chat. The answer was:

''These were breached as you have played 2 games at the same time and this is considered a breach of Terms and Conditions.''

This was the first time I saw a casino forbidding playing 2 slots at the same time, this seems unfair for the player and ISNT is explicit on their Terms and Conditions at all.

As I stated above this was an extremely unfair reason of a ''breach'' of their Terms and Conditions'' and they are using against their customers in order not to pay withdrawals.

Thanks in advance.

Status solved Resolved
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Waited Over 1 Month For Wire Transfer Withdrawal to Arrive to No Avail
My withdrawal of CAD 2500 via wire transfer was approved on December 18, 2020 after submitting all required documents and bank account details.


After waiting 18 days without receiving mt withdrawal, I contacted Evolve Casino on January 5, 2020 to inquire about the withdrawal and obtain wire transfer reference code as instructed by my bank (to trace the wire transfer). Evolve Casino did not provide the wire payment reference code, instead asked me for updated bank statement which I provided.

I was told that Evolve Casino would contact me by email regarding this issue. At this time I gave the Casino the option of sending my withdrawal via Interac Etransfer since they offer this payment method for deposits and I have successfully withdrawn via Interac from another Mountberg casino previously.


After waiting 26 days, I still did not receive my withdrawal nor an email response from Evolve Casino (per my previous chat) regarding this issue. I contacted Evolve Casino again via chat to ask about the withdrawal and obtain the wire transfer reference code.

Evolve Casino again failed to provide the wire transfer reference code, instead telling me to wait for email response. At this point I told the rep that I will be filing a complaint at Askgamblers if there is no progress on my withdrawal after one month from date of approval.


It has now been 38 days since my withdrawal and I still have not received the fund in my bank account. I also have not received the wire transfer code via email. In fact I have not received any email response from Evolve Casino at all despite the two chats.


I am looking for immediate processing and confirmation of my withdrawal of CAD 2500 either via wire transfer with the reference code for tracing by my bank or via Interac Etransfer.

I have provided the pdf of email from December 18, 2020 confirming approval of my withdrawal along with the amount and Evolve Casino transaction number.

I have also provided the chat logs from Jan 5 and Jan 13, 2020. They are in form of screenshot as there was no option of receiving the chat transcripts.
Status solved Resolved
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