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Energy Casino Not Paying 5500 EUR Win


I won on the 25th of June 5500 EUR which they refuse to pay. I played exactly the same 2 weeks before on June the 9th and they paid in full, I won over 5000 EUR back then.

I emailed them and they replied that the terms and condition were changed on the 25th the exact same day I played.

There are ways to prove the time they changed the terms from older to new using google cache and thepogg.com website who track terms and condition but I did send them an email asking what was the time in the day the terms were changed - I played early in the morning - 3 times I asked them this question but they ignored and instead gave this answer

'Next update took place on the 25th July as previously communicated.

Please note that irregular play pattern apply to all versions of T&C and is the reason why your winnings were confiscated.'

This email very surprised me because only a day before they said this:

'Before the 25th of June 2015 when the old T&C applied bonus bets were not limited at all. Therefore, your winnings from one of the previous bonuses were paid out freely.'

Anyway, they applied a spirit of the bonus clause in order to avoid paying.

I was playing ThunderStruck 9 a spin and gambled up my bet in the Gamble feature. I played exactly the same couple of weeks ago and was paid smoothly.

Disputed Casino EnergyCasino
Amount €5500

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User name

Based on submitter's last post AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is officially closed now.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

User name loyalty-level-2
This is great news, I consider the case close
User name

EnergyCasino management has reviewed this case in depth, and will now end this impasse with a positive decision on the side of our player.

We are now making arrangement for the payment of the €5500 in full.

We want the gaming public to understand that we are an institution of integrity, that there was a valid reason for both the confiscation, and also our U-turn on that confiscation.

Due to the second amendment to the terms and conditions taking place on the same day of our player’s play, it is indeed reasonable to accept that: They were playing under a set of terms that ruled our players’ wins with bonus money “irregular” (and subject to winnings confiscation) only broadly and not specifically, as they occurred within a subgame of the game.

We hope now the deadlock is broken that our winning player, our gaming community, and your readers, continue to look on EnergyCasino as an online casino of great repute.

Thank you to all involved.

Best regards,

EnergyCasino Team

User name loyalty-level-2

Your post just shows how right I am about my complaint.

Right after I played you added (including additional features such as gamble and/or mini games) this happened on the 25th after I played not before.

You are lying about the fact there was no max bet before the 18th, you did have a max bet of 20% of the bonus amount.mWhen you sent me the reason of non payment you mentioned the clause (including additional features such as gamble and/or mini games

By changing the terms exactly in the same day I did the gamble and the fact you gave it as the reason of non pay just show I am right and this additional term was the reason of non pay.

Saying that before the 18 you had no bet limit is a 100% lie, go check your records and older terms, you had 20% max bet rule. According to this max bet rule if gamble count as a bet you shouldnt have paid even the winnings before the 14 but you did pay it, because you knew that according to the old terms gamble is not counted as a bet.

Only under your new terms from the 25th which was after I played gamble is considered a bet.

Moreover, just for the public, askgamblers and yourself to know, in order to prove by 100% my point lets look at your additional claim, you wouldnt raise this claim if you were sure gamble was not allowed.

You brought something new to support yourself, saying gamble is an irregular play.

How can gamble be irregular if the game offer you that ? you have to blame your game designer to create an irregular game and not the player by choosing to gamble or collect.

One day you will say a player that always collect his win is irregular and one day you can say a player that gamble his win is irregular, one day you can say that a player that gamble 2 times after collect is irregular and next week when you really want to be creative you can say that player that clicked on another minigame to be considered irregular, maybe a raise and double iin Blackjack will be considered also as irregular.

The irregular claim is useless and nonsense and nobody is going to buy it as a reason not to pay.

You added it out of the blue when you saw that actually I played under the 18th of june rules and gamble was not mentioned as considered a bet of its own.

This is the only difference between the 2 terms and this is the original reason you decided not to pay in your email the term

(including additional features such as gamble and/or mini games

EnergyCasino Complaint Stats

Resolved 12 / 17
Avg. Amount $4,890
Avg. Complaint Duration 22 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

EnergyCasino Complaint Summary

Most user complaints about this operator fall under the Payment category.
So far, 9 out of 13 complaints in this category have been resolved.
This operator's average complaint duration is 22 days, while the average duration across all operators is 8 days.

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Unlawful withholding of 30000 PLN in winnings

Dear AskGamblers Team,

I am lodging an official complaint against the operator EnergyCasino regarding the unlawful withholding of my winnings.

The total withdrawal amount was 40000 PLN, which was divided into four equal parts due to the limits imposed by the casino. The operator paid out the first part amounting to 10000 PLN only after 10 days of my daily contact. This indisputably confirms that my account is fully verified and the funds are legal.

The remaining amount of 30000 PLN has been withheld by EnergyCasino for over two weeks now. These funds still have a status allowing them to be cancelled, which indicates that the operator is deliberately delaying the transaction process. Customer support via live chat avoids providing any specific reason in their daily messages. They hide behind generalities about withdrawal queues or technical issues, merely repeating the formula that my funds are safe.

I have exhausted the path of direct contact with the casino, having written multiple times via live chat, to the responsible gambling department, as well as to customer support; however, my demands for the due payout are being ignored.

EnergyCasino's actions against me violate the MGA licensing standards and the principles of fair player treatment.

I kindly request your intervention and assistance in enforcing the payout of the 30000 PLN owed to me.To substantiate my claims, I have attached screenshots of my chat transcripts and relevant emails.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,

<full name removed>

Status unsolved Unresolved
zł30,000
Excessive delay and no payment
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Status solved Resolved
€30
Energy Casino - Account blocked after requesting €5,000 withdrawal without giving any reason why
Hello. I joined Energy Casino 3 months ago, i enjoyed playing on sports bet and at their casino, especially european roulette. When i first tried to withdraw money they have sent me an email to send them my documents, which is normal procedure, i sent them all of my documents and all of them were approved. I had 5236e on my account and i tried to withdraw 5000, i waited for 1 day and then i contacted them through live chat, they told me that the withdrawing process may took up to 3 days. I was ok with that and waited for additional 2 days. There was not a single message from Energy Casino and i decided to contact them through live chat again and now they told me that they need new additional phone verification and asked me what's the best time to call me. They called me, i gave them all the answers they asked correctly, even the girl that called told me that this process will finish in the next morning (18.06.2018), she said that their financial department will send me an email in the next morning. They didn't. 2 days after that i tried to log in into my account and i saw that is blocked, went to see if there is some email from Energy Casino, but there was not, there is still no email from them explaining why i am blocked. I was nervous and i contacted them through live chat right after i saw that i was blocked, they told me that they don't know the reason, the financial department blocked my account, they told me that the only thing they now is that my account is still under verification process. I also called them and they told me that i should send email to their financial department, i did again and there is again no email from them. I have screenshot from one chat with them where i ask how can they block me without explaining why and they told me that they can according to their terms and conditions. When i asked can you send that part to me, they started to make excuses. This afternoon (24.06.2018) i wrote with Energy Casino again and i was asking again same questions, when will i get email from your financial department and etc and started to be a little bit sarcastic and asked May they need more than 2 months to send me email back? Their answer was Yes. I hope that i will solve my problem. Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
Status rejected Rejected
€5,000