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By Tomi S.
4 years ago

Hi,

First of all, sorry for my bad English. I hope you can understand me/my point.

I will copy paste the text that I sent to compla­int­s(a­t)g­ami­ngl­ice­nce­s.com 5 months ago. That is the only email I could find that I think could have helped me. Like you can see, I gave them plenty of time to answer or solve my case, but I have got no answer.

"I have some problems with BurningBet and now I have decided that I need to send this case to you guys to get this thing resolved. I have been in contact with them many times, but I cant get this case going further with them. English is not my first language, so I hope you understand everything I say. Sorry about that.


Me:

< personal information removed >

Casino:

-BurningBet, operated by Altacore N.V. (License No 8048/JAZ2019-049)


The problem:

They claim that i had opened an second account to their website and that is the reason why they wont accept my withdraw worth of 400€.

My evidence:

(These have attachments included in this email, so please find them with the same number. If there is no attachment, you can check my claim from the logs provided to you by BurningBet and see that everything I have said in this email is 100% correct.)

1. Like I said they are claiming that I have opened a second account and that I have done it with using my bank codes. I opened my original account using username and password.

2. In these emails they are saying that the time for the second account creation was 2021-09-07 13:01:09 (attachment 2.1) and it was made by using bank codes (att 2.2).

3. Zimpler (att 3) is their provider for online bank services for Nordea bank (the bank that i use). I asked them about my recent logs history (att 3.1). And from this file (att 3.2) you can see that I did not use my bank codes to register an account at the time BurningBet is claiming. I did made a deposit of 30€ few minutes earlier (12:58:07) after i logged in using my username and password. In this file (att 3.3) you can see where I used my bank codes (burningbet.com). The only time i used my bank codes to login into BurningBet on that day was later in the evening, after i heard about this problem from their Customer Support, just to check what is going on.


My thoughts:

I think it's very clear that I have not opened a second account. As you can see from the files from Zimpler, I did open an account using bank codes to Stelario 1st of September and Altacore N.V also owns that casino. My guess is that opening that account has somehow messed up their systems. The problem become right the next time I logged into BurningBet, after creating the Stelario account with my bank codes. But that's just my guess. The main point I have is that I have not done anything wrong.

!!!!!!!!! Its also clear by looking the times that the different events have happened, that its impossible that i could create that 2nd account. The time for my deposit was earlier than the time when the account was created, so how could I make a deposit to an account that was not even created yet at that moment. !!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much and i hope you can help me to resolve this case once and for all.

Have a nice week!

< full name removed >



So yeah, that's it. It would be great if you can help me with this. I sent plenty of emails with them (BurningBet) at the time and talked in the chat, but they just didnt want to understand me and the points that make their claim impossible. In the end, they just stopped to answer me.

I have a history of working in an online casino (MGA) so I know what is allowed and what is not. Pretty much the stupidest thing you can do is to open a 2nd account. You will get caught 100%.

If you think my case is something you guys can help with, I will send you the attachments mentioned in my text if you want.

Thank you so much and have great day!

-Tomi

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Discussion

User name

Dear all,

Following a careful review and consideration of all the information, details and/or proof presented by the parties during the complaint process, the AskGamblers Complaint Team reached the conclusion that BurningBet Casino management acted in accordance with their Terms and Conditions.

Based on the abovementioned information, the AskGamblers Complaint Team considers this case resolved and it is now officially closed. While we understand this might not be the outcome expected by the complainant, we would like to remind you that, in case of a disagreement with our decision, further assistance on the matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body and/or appointed ADR entity.

User name loyalty-level-2
Hi,

Feels amazing to finally have someone who gets my point in this case, thank you AskGamblers Complaint Team.


"2021-09-07 - you created a second account with your Zimpler." -BurningBet

Nope, i did not. And luckily i have 100% clear evidence from Zimpler to prove that.

I dont think you guys are trying to scam me (or at least i dont want to believe that). Like said, my guess is that something really weird have happened in your system and it created that 2nd account.

I hope you finally take this case seriously and really check all the information/facts with a thought.

Have a nice weekend you all.
User name

Dear BurningBet Casino,

The AskGamblers Complaint Team is kindly asking you to provide a detailed explanation of the issue along with all the relevant facts and evidence that could support your accusations towards the player, that there was more than one account registered. Please send the required information to suppor­t@a­skg­amb­ler­s.com directly.

Please note that according to the AGCCS Terms, we consider all the information presented during the course of our complaint process confidential, and as such it will not be shared with third parties.

Please be aware that in case you fail to respond and/or provide the requested information within the given timeframe, the complaint will be closed as unresolved.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

User name
Dear Tomi,

After reviewing your complaint in detail, we would like to notify you.
2021-08-08 - you created your first account with the username DAVORED, where you made 2 deposits and proceeded to play.
2021-09-07 - you created a second account with your Zimpler. bank account and you made a deposit again. (this account is considered a duplicate account).

According to the regulations:
2.6 When creating an account, your personal data must be accurate and, where necessary, kept up to date, such as name, email address etc. You're not allowed to create multiple accounts: only 1 account per person. You're not allowed to create an account for any other person, family member, address (mail or IP), email or device. Any other accounts besides your main BurningBet account are considered duplicates. The Casino reserves the right to block multiple accounts without notice.

If you had not had any deposits on your first account, we could have made a meeting and kept your second account as the main one, but in this situation, you have violated the rules of the project, that's why your second account was blocked and the winnings were canceled.

Your game login DAVORED is active and you can use it, deposit, and withdraw without difficulty.

BurningBet Casino Complaint Stats

Resolved 6 / 6
Avg. Amount $3,663
Avg. Complaint Duration 18 days
Avg. Response Time 2 days

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