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Casino Cruise -Delaying my withdrawal and poor customer support


vor 7 Jahren
Dear Askgamblers,

I would like to make a complaint against Casinocruise. I initially made a withdrawal of £1500 and £400 on the 26th of March 2019, having initially deposited £500 the day before. On the 27th of March 2019 you asked me to verify my documents, as per KYC, which is the standard for all casinos so I obliged and did this immediately. On the 29th of March 2019 my documents were verified, at 10:16. Previous to that I had reverse withdrawn the £1500 and £400, and made it into two withdrawals of £1900 (totalling £3800), with £700 left in the balance. On the night of 29th of March 2019, I went to login to my account where I received the message "your account is currently blocked because you have chosen to self-exclude". With the grand total of £4500 in withdrawals and balance, I would never self-exclude so I went straight to live chat.

After quite a while of waiting, live chat told me my account was under review. After a bit more digging, the live chat operator told me they are "confirming that my account is not linked to any self-excluded account". My first issue about this is, why did I have to log in, see myself "self-excluded", then spend over 45 minutes speaking to a live chat operator to find out this is the reason why? Very poor communication initially, a transparent line of communication from the casino would have alleviated any initial stress I had when I tried to log into my account. Secondly, I understand that with certain operators, if you self-exclude, you self-exclude from their sister websites. That I understand, which is why I always use the same details. I also understand that the software will self-exclude you if you are self-excluded from other websites, which did not happen. Additionally, having provided my information through kyc identification, I was verified, which leads me to believe the reason behind my account being "under review" is to delay the withdrawal process, and try and find any excuse to not pay out.

Since Friday, I have asked live chat on two more occasions for an update on my account, culminating in today, Thursday 4th of April 2019, where I was further told "there is no update on your account". Having gone through previous complaints made by askgamblers members about casinocruise who have had similar issues to me, I want to escalate this as soon as possible as I fully expected to have the money in my account by now. My £500 deposit was pure cash, no bonus attached to it, so I spent it on the stakes I wanted to, on any game I wanted to, without restriction. On Friday they told me, as per the chat transcript I will attach, it would take a few days to invesigate, yet 6 days later I have heard absolutely nothing. No email even notifying me they were investigating, so without my own efforts I would have no idea! Additionally, I would also like to refer to the point in the live chat which says:

"Yes but we will need to see this once their review is complete as if they see your are linked to a self excluded account and any details on account were entered to by pass system then yes in this case they can have the right to cancel your winnings.
But if system let you create account and it wasn't your fault here funds should be sent as normal"

Now I understand attempting to circumnavigate the self-exclusion policy if you want to use bonus money, but my deposit was pure cash, and I have access to other websites which I play on regularly, so this doesnt benefit me. This line tells me, that the only way they can try and prevent my winnings is if I "deliberately" circumnavigated the self-exclusion detection software (IE, putting in different emails, dates of birth, etc), which I clearly have not. And my understanding as well is if I happen to be self-excluded on a sister website, but the software has not worked in detecting me, they are still liable to pay my funds. Can Askgamblers confirm that my interpretation of this rule is correct?

I lastly believe that besides all of this, I have not self-excluded on any sister website of casinocruise, so this is all a waste of time, and a deliberate attempt to delay my money, but that is my personal opinion, shared by many members of this website that have had money delayed by this casino operator. I wish to get the wheels in motion so my withdrawals and balance are processed in a timely fashion, and I can enjoy my winnings without stress for once.
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Betrag £500

Diskussion

User name

AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf Casino Cruise management in regards of this complaint to confirm that player had an active self exclusion at the sister casino site so casino's actions related to the account block and deposit refund are justified enough.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

User name
Good morning Caitbok,

thanks for keeping in touch with us.

Regarding your complaint, we kindly invite you to refer to our T&C ‘29.1.2 We endeavour to apply your Self Exclusion as soon as practically possible, however, please be aware that this process takes a reasonable working period to implement. In order to avoid inadvertent self-exclusion, You shall be sent an email to confirm your request, you must follow the instructions of that email to complete your request and Your self-exclusion will not commence until it has been fully implemented and communicated to you.’

In addition to it please note that your winnings were voided and deposits refunded.

Regards,
Casino Cruise Team
User name

This complaint has been reopened as per Casino Cruise request and AskGamblers Complaints Team would like to give it one more try and help both parties involved into the dispute reaching to a satisfactory resolution.

User name loyalty-level-2

Askgamblers, here is a transcript of the first live chat log, my name and email address removed for data protection.

Hello! A member of crew will be on deck to help you soon. Please enter your username and postcode to verify your account.

Me 10:38:49 pm

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Kaya 10:42:08 pm

Hi there, my name is Kaya, I will be your casino agent today. How may I help you?


Me 10:42:37 pm

Hi there, I went to login to my account and it says I have requested to self-exclude. I have not done that, and have £3800 in pending withdrawals and £700 in balance on the account

Can you explain what has happened?

Kaya 10:45:04 pm


Let me take a look at your account. One moment please.

Me 10:56:08 pm

Any news?

Kaya 10:58:31 pm

Still checking account for you

Me 10:58:40 pm

Thanks

Kaya 10:59:38 pm

Could you please confirm e-mail address

Kaya 11:01:59 pm


Thank you

I have checked with the department and they have informed me that your account is under review and they should be contacting you back with an update form their end once reviewed.

Me 11:03:48 pm

Do you have any idea why my account is under review? As I obviously have outstanding withdrawals this is very important

I suspect its because I actually won something from your casino, which is a poor way to treat relatively high stakes players

Kaya 11:06:51 pm

No actually what I can see is how you said they are confirming that account is not linked to any self exclusion.

But do not worry this check wont effect your withdrawal.

Department will give you an update on the account once reviewed for you.

Me 11:07:37

Oh right, so you are saying if I am self excluded on another website, that is owned by your platform, I will get all my money including the money in balance, but may be excluded from your website?

Best case: Withdrawals and I get to keep playing, as I do like you website.

Worst case: Withdrawals and I dont get to keep playing on your website?


Kaya 11:11:38 pm

Yes but we will need to see this once their review is complete as if they see your are linked to a self excluded account and any details on account were entered to by pass system then yes in this case they can have the right to cancel your winnings.

But if system let you create account and it wasn't your fault here funds should be sent as normal

This is why I advised you we will need to wait for their review.

Me 11:12:23 pm

Any idea how long that will take?

I think that is ridiculous you are able to forfeit money if I am self-excluded on another website. I passed KYC checks, and was able to deposit. That is completely unacceptable


Kaya 11:13:55 pm


I'm afraid this is all stated in our terms :/

With regards to responsible gambling, due to new regulations gaming companies take this very seriously.

Me 11:15:30 pm


I dont believe I am self excluded on any of your websites, so I expect my withdrawal to be processed, and how does that make sense? You allow somebody to make a deposit, and you try and forfeit their winnings on the basis of responsible gaming?

Kaya 11:17:33 pm


When applying for a self exclusion on an account you aggree to terms of having this cross brand and from not creating any accounts with us. If a customer would do this this is obviously breech of terms. The system is programmed to block self excluded customer from creating account but if obviously details are changed to bypass the system then the company is not held responsible for this.

Me 11:19:36 pm


OK firstly, I do not believe I have self-excluded from any of your sister casinos. Secondly, you are saying you only have the right to forfeit the withdrawals if somebody altered their details (like different email address, phone number etc), correct?

So if that wasnt the case, and the fault was an error from your software, which should automatically ban any account that has a self exclusion on any of your sister websites, then my withdrawals will still be processed, correct?

Me 11:21:09 pm


Yes then in this case they will still be processed for you

This is why I asked you to wait for an update of their review.

Me 11:21:46 pm


OK, I feel better about that


Kaya 11:21:47 pm

As we can see better after

Me 11:22:08 pm

Sure, lastly how long approximately will it take? I wanted to use the winnings for a holiday next month

Kaya 11:22:44 pm

Review of account can take a few days to complete. But you are more then welcome to check in with us for any updates.

Me 11:23:38 pm

Alright, I will keep checking my emails and if I dont hear anything by the end of the weekend, I will get back to you

Thank you



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Casino Cruise Beschwerde-Statistik

Gelöst 84 / 93
Durchschn. Betrag $4,967
Durchschn. Dauer 8 Tage
Durchschn. Antwortzeit 2 Tage
Month holding withdrawal

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Where do I start.....

On the 18th of October, I set up an account with Casino Cruise.

I was not allowed to deposit due to documentation. I kindly sent all my documents, UK driver's license, Bank statement.

Had the confirmation back saying everything was fine on the 19th of Oct.

I then deposited then around £450 pounds and won £800 pounds. The withdrawal was 72 hours to review, which was fine. This then went over the allocated time frame, then I pushed customer service, within minutes I was asked to send a selfie with my driver's license, which I kindly did.

My account then was blocked I could not log in, they then advised I had a self-exclusion ban... I actually had that removed and kindly sent the certification from GamStop.

I still have not received any withdrawal from them, I continue to get the same email.

"Thank you for contacting Casino Cruise Support with your request.

I can see that your withdrawals are in the final stages of processing and you will be notified directly as soon as this has been completed. I apologize for the delay, I know it can be frustrating but rest assured it is being looked into.

Unfortunately, at the moment I do not have any further updates however I have alerted the relevant department to complete this for you as soon as possible.

I apologize for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your ongoing patience.

Thank you once again for contacting us and if you need anything else, do not hesitate to contact us. We are always happy to assist you"

This was a further 6 days ago, I emailed yesterday on the 16th of November still nothing.

I have lost the will to live on this, no casino can justify months of waiting and saying I am a top priority.

Thanks

Status unsolved Ungelöst
£800