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Yeah.. That's the frustrating part of it, it's not to help players keep safe, because we are now heading into black market gambling territory. The claim as I understand it is by preventing Australian residents from gambling in offshore casino's we keep money in the country.. But come on, we all know this won't stop anyone who wants to gamble from doing so, it just forces people to use different payment methods and search out less reputable casino's. I'll be having a session or two later this week, because now after reading up on all this I really, really feel like gambling.

So I'm a long way behind the 8 ball on this, as I have mentioned I'm not a regular gambler. And only the last couple of days have I realised the effect of the new Australian interactive gaming amendment act. So being a little unhappy to find one of my guilty pleasures being taken away from me like a punished child, I spent most of today scanning the Internet for information. Most of you will already know all of this, but I thought I'd make a short summary of my findings should any other disgruntled Aussie wander into this thread looking for information. So... the laws passed recently is to directly prevent gambling providers from providing services to Australian players under threat of heavy fines. what this means is that gaming providers and casino's that operate under offshore licences and regulations, that is providers and casino's that operate legally and generally come with the trust of the gambling community have withdrawn support for Australian players. The result is Casino's that have been safe havens for players are no longer available to Australians, further, providers such as Microgaming and Netent have withdrawn support for Aussie players along with payment processors such as neteller. Now it is important to note that these providers, and I will use the example of Netent here, have shown a willingness to work with various global regulations, and have applied for and gained licences with other countries in similar situations to continue to provide their games, and this includes paying tax to the countries in question. The IGA act holds that providers will not be permitted to provide their games to Australians without a licence. great! so Netent just needs to apply for and obtain a licence right? well as it happens, Australia has no government body to provide such a licence, and it would seem no plans to create such a body or implement the means to provide such a licence. So where are we now... Players can still legally gamble online there is no penalty, however providers are threatened with heavy fines, so it's up the player to find casino's that are willing to support Australian players at their own risk. currently some casino's that hold licences in Malta and united kingdom are continuing to accept Australian players with a wait and see approach, the only payment methods available in most cases are credit card and bitcoin. So the current landscape for Aussie gamblers is that there are vastly fewer safe places for online gambling, by it's very nature the law targets those casino's that offer a fair and regulated gaming environment, but it remains to be seen whether it will see any reduction in 'dodgy' online gambling venues. I tried to be objective in writing this post but to be honest I'm a little unhappy so probably doesn't come across that way. Truth is I gamble so infrequently that I can probably live without, but the handling of this law and the implications, in my opinion, has been a backward step that makes gambling more dangerous. And I don't like having my toys taken away from me. anyway that's my vent, I'm going to watch some TV now.

yes well, In Australia a packet of cigarettes costs about $35 thanks to tax. alcohol is not too much better. If the Australian government could cash in on Netent.....

Thanks again pinnit I'm reading in to bitcoin, really unhappy that it looks like it's my only option. I'm not a big gambler, so I will weigh it all up and decide whether I'm better off not participating in online gambling anymore. I just liked being able to spend a couple of hundred $ every once in a while, to be be honest I rarely even try and make withdrawals, i just burn it and move on. So I'm assuming by your comment that Mg and Netent games won't be available anywhere for Australian users... That is upsetting. If there are Australians here who are using bitcoin, I'd love to hear how you've found the experience and perhaps what casino you'd recommend.

So.. I have not gambled for a while, now I'm really confused.. Australians can't online gamble unless using bitcoin? Australians can't use Neteller now? If the laws have changed is there now a penalty for online gambling? Is it just offshore based casino's? I'm still getting a lot of advertising from Australian based casino's, I logged into Neteller and my account page is littered with gambling advertisements. I've tried searching for information online and everything seems a little vague, last time I gambled everything was business as usual. If anyone has a clear understanding of what we can and can't do, what providers/casino's are still available to Australians (if any), I would really appreciate some explanation as to where we stand on this issue. edit: Thanks pinnit2015 for replying to me about Neteller on another thread.

I have not gambled for a while, I came here to ask about something else when I saw this thread. Could anyone please confirm that Neteller cannot be used for Australian gamblers? I tried to search for any information on this and can't find anything, on my Neteller account they are still advertising it's use for gambling. I don't want to deposit any money in my Neteller account until I can confirm this, but apart from this thread I can't see any evidence to suggest Neteller can no longer be used. On an unrelated topic, I've noticed that Netent games are no longer showing on my favourite casino's, is this new restrictions for Australians? (I have not gambled for at least 6 months).

Hi, Thanks for for your response, I feel I will get the chance to try out the complaints section very soon. I think I will give them another chance to respond first, probably next week I will make an official complaint. I'm just torn at the moment on whether I should put in a withdrawal claim for my winnings at AC, or whether I should just try to deal with the pamper issue first. Like I said, I'm very new to this. I have no expectation of being paid anytime soon, If i get my winnings in the end I'll be happy and chalk it up as a learning experience. Since then I have found a few casino's that have shown great professionalism and treated me like a valued customer, and of course askgamblers is playing a big part in my 'education'. Thanks again

Hi all I'm very new to online casino's, I made a deposit with pamper using their 2000% bonus. I managed to win, earning myself $650 to withdraw. So I filled out the ticket and decided to check out the sister site AC casino, made a deposit there too. In the meantime I discovered askgamblers, and as a result found a lot of negativity towards both these sites. So i wasn't surprised when 3 weeks passed without word from Pamper about my withdrawal. I noticed my ticket had been marked as resolved, so I sent accounting an email to which I received a very speedy response telling me they were now ready to process my withdrawal. They also told me that Neteller (as i requested) would not be possible, and that i would be sent my winnings by another provider, they would be processed in $300 increments each with a $50 fee!! Another week has passed since my last contact with them, in that time i have managed to win with my AC casino deposit, $950 to withdraw. The balance in my casino account at Pamper still reads $650, and I am very hesitant to claim the AC withdrawal until Pamper has payed me.. So for the moment the cash sits in my casino accounts on both sites.. Honestly don't mind waiting all that much, but it's a bit disconcerting to worry about whether you will be receiving your money and in what sort of time frame, And the lack of communication. I'm really curious to hear about anyone else's experiences with either casino in recent times (last year or so). They have a lot of complaints here but not a lot in recent times. Also if anyone has dealt with them and has any advice I would love to hear it. Since finding Askgamblers I'm following player reviews and complaints made to make sure I'm playing at trusted casino's Thanks for reading