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BitCasino.io - Won't pay 2,2 BTC unjustly accusing me of having "multiple accounts"


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Por simon r.
há 7 anos
Hi askgamblers.
I played at bitcasino with my second part of the welcome bonus that were 50% of the deposit witch was 60 mbtc and played the slotmachine "caishens gold" with a bet/spin that were 1.14mbtc per spin. After i had waged the requirement i had 2.2 Btc that i had won without breaking any of the terms, after i had played a couple of more spins I tried to make a withdrawal of 1 Btc but got declined due to "security reasons" witch i completely understand due to the amount that i won and waited a day and nothing happened and the only notice i had was when i once again tried to make a withdrawal and there came up a notice that i couldnt withdraw and that i should contact the support witch i did, and i went to the live chat support-thing who told me that i should mail the security section of bitcasino and i had no futher information from the chat so i mailed them and i finally had some answer two days after my withdrawal-attempt and they told me that i due to security reasons had to do a KYC and i fully understood that and have done many KYC´s at the other places i have played at and never have had any suspicion towards me and have always had my documents verified without any problems and never would imagine that i should have that here either so i gave them the information and documents (passport and adressproof) and hoped that it would soon be finished.
Another day goes and its now 3 days that has gone since my first withdrawal-attempt and they now wanted me to make a sort of camera verification at some online partner to them that was named VERIFF witch i never even heard of so i followed the link that i got privided in the mail and followed the instructions were i had to take a photo of first my face and then i had to take a photo of my passport, after i finished the whole thing and had it registred i sent a mail to the casino and told them so and waited again for a answer.'

After 3 days of waiting i finally got a answer from bitcasino that told that i had to finish my registration without any futher explanation, i sent a reply in witch i asked what i have missed without any answer so i sent one more the same day in hope of a answer because now its a week since i won and i started to lose my patience and a bit worried too because i have never waited this long and have read that they use to pay their winning customers fast, and the support just told me that from now on i should only have my future dialouge with the security section and that i should mail them instead of their live chat-support that i now had learnt only sends one mail per day, and i have had enough of this by now and was tired of all waiting and delay.

So the next day i got a answer from them where they told me that i had not initiated the veriff-verification witch i offcourse had 4 days earlier, however so i did the Veriff-thing once again and this time to a screenshot in case they would tell me the same thing again and mailed them and attached the screenshot and told them that it was done. And i thought that maybe now they finally can give me a ok because this whole situation has turned from being one of my best moment to a complete nightmare and never in my life would even imagine anything like this. And the day after i got a reply from them witch had me very confused and they now told me that i had been flagged by a second level investigation(?) and told me that i was suspected of having multiple accounts and then asked what relevance i had to the following usernames: lolablack, pyromanen, speedmail, and that they hoped for a honest reply in order to proceed.

At this state i did not know what to think and i was wondering how they even can have been connecting me to them when i never even have heard of them, not a single one of them and mailed them back and told them that i dont know either one of the usernames and asked them why they thought so. And i couldnt be any more honest than so and dont know what they expected for a answer but i knew that i had my innocence and even gave them my number and told them if there was any problem or if they wanted to ask me anything they could give me a call and gave them my number and all but nothing happened for several days and it have at this state been 2 weeks since my first attempt and i had mailed them two times since they had me accused of those things mentioned and i had been given them the honest reply i had to give and any other answer than that would be a lie and couldnt do much more than that. And after i sent them a mail where i told them i still had no answer from them and it had been 5 days since they asked me for the honest reply, and thats when i had the reply that i certainly neither expected nor wanted in withch they stated that my verification wasn´t succeful due to the reason that they had evidence(!?) in whitch i had breached their bonus terms and that my account would be terminated even though i had nothing wrong or in any way had acted in a any kind of fraudent behaviour and without any chance of give them futher proof or so, and this is their conclusion after two weeks of verifications in witch i had given them proof after proof of who i am.
They then asked me to provide a walletadress to where they could deposit the sum that i had deposited to them and if i in the future would open any account at bitcasino they would confiscate all of my deposits.
And i was wondering if this was a joke and was thinking how they even can think that i under any circumstances would even think of such a thing after all of this?? Any way after they gave me the final judgement with their false evidence i tried to reach them on the mail but have not had any reply from them since and it seems like they dont want to discuss this errand anymore and choose to do whats easy for them so that they dont have to pay me the money that i won and i have not been able to prove my innocense any futher to them and got judged without any evidence due to the fact that there cant be any connection to those things and those names when i first of all always play with one account with my OWN name and second of all due to the fact that i cant have any connection to usernames i never had nor will have connection to when i dont even heard of them so i am really curious of what kind of evidence they will provide to askgamblers. And this is my first complaint so if its a bit messy and so I apologize but did not know what to do since i am in a helpless state right know and hope that this will be solved the right way.
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AskGamblers Complaints Team has been provided with enough information and evidence on behalf BitCasino.io management in regards of this complaint to confirm and justify the casino actions.

Based on the above, AskGamblers Complaints Team consider this case as Resolved and it is now officially closed. In case of a disagreement with our decision we remind player that further assistance on this matter could be requested from the relevant regulatory body.

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Hi,

We have provided AskGamblers with clear and irrefutable evidence collected by our security team which proves multiple links of multi-accounting and bonus abuse.

The player’s actions and resulting multiple matches breached our terms and conditions all players must agree to. As we have proof that the T&Cs were violated we are within our right, as stated in the T&Cs, to forfeit any associated winnings or funds.

The specific T&Cs the player is in breach of are listed below:

2. Binding Declarations
2.1.3. You participate in the Games strictly in your personal and non-professional capacity; and participate for recreational and entertainment purposes only;
2.1.4. You participate in the Games on your own behalf and not on the behalf of any other person;
2.1.5. All information that you provide to us during the term of validity of this agreement is true, complete, correct, and that you shall immediately notify us of any change of such information;
2.1.10. In relation to deposits and withdrawals of funds into and from your Member Account, you shall only use Bitcoins that are valid and lawfully belong to you;
2.1.12. The computer software, the computer graphics, the Websites and the user interface that we make available to you is owned by Bitcasino.io or its associates and is protected by copyright laws. You may only use the software for your own personal, recreational uses in accordance with all rules, terms and conditions we have established and in accordance with all applicable laws, rules and regulations;
2.1.16. You accept and acknowledge that we reserve the right to detect and prevent the use of prohibited techniques, including but not limited to fraudulent transaction detection, automated registration and signup, gameplay and screen capture techniques. These steps may include, but are not limited to, examination of Players device properties, detection of geo-location and IP masking, transactions and blockchain analysis;
3. Your Member Account
3.6. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member Account being blocked.
3.10. We have the right to carry out "KYC" (Know Your Customer) verification procedures and access to your Member Account may be blocked or closed if we determine that you have supplied false or misleading information.
5. Withdrawals
5.4. Bitcasino reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 1 Bitcoin or €2,300, whichever is lower, and further reserves the right to carry out such verification procedures in case of smaller withdrawals, as demanded by our gaming license. Account Holders who wish to recover funds held in a closed, locked or excluded account, are advised to contact Customer Support.
5.10. If you are eligible for a bonus, for example a login bonus or a deposit bonus of 100% up to a certain amount, wagering requirements will apply before you are eligible to make any cash-outs of the bonus or winnings. The wagering requirements, which can vary, will be displayed when receiving the bonus. If you would like to request a withdrawal before the wagering requirements are fulfilled, Bitcasino will deduct the whole bonus amount as well as any winnings before approving the withdrawal. Bitcasino reserves the right to impose, at our own discretion, geographical limitations to individual bonus schemes. Local wagering requirements may be applied. Bonuses/freespins at Bitcasino can only be received once per household/IP. Bitcasino's wagering requirements do not apply to risk free bets.
5.11. Bitcasino.io reserves the right to cancel any bonus or bonus program (including, but not limited to free money bonuses, deposit bonuses, reload bonuses and loyalty program) with immediate effect if we believe the bonus has been set up incorrectly or is being abused, and if said bonus has been paid out then we reserve the right to decline any withdrawal request and to deduct such amount from your account. Whether or not a bonus is deemed to be set up incorrectly or abused shall be determined solely at the discretion of Bitcasino.io.
5.15. Where any term of the offer or promotion is breached or there is any evidence of a series of bets placed by a customer or group of customers, which due to a deposit bonus, enhanced payments, free bets, risk free bets or any other promotional offer results in guaranteed customer profits irrespective of the outcome, whether individually or as part of a group, Bitcasino.io reserves the right to reclaim the bonus element of such offers and in their absolute discretion either settle bets at the correct odds, void the free bet bonus and risk free bets or void any bet funded by the deposit bonus. In addition, Bitcasino.io reserve the right to levy an administration charge on the customer up to the value of the deposit bonus, free bet bonus, risk free bet or additional payment to cover administrative costs. We further reserve the right to ask any customer to provide sufficient documentation for us to be satisfied in our absolute discretion as to the customer's identity prior to us crediting any bonus, free bet, risk free bet or offer to their account.
5.16. All Bitcasino.io offers are intended for recreational players and Bitcasino.io may in its sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in all or part of any promotion.
10. Bonuses and Promotions
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10.3. Where any term of the offer or promotion is breached or there is any evidence of a series of bets placed by a customer or group of customers, which due to a deposit bonus, enhanced payments, free bets, risk free bets or any other promotional offer results in guaranteed customer profits irrespective of the outcome, whether individually or as part of a group, Bitcasino.io reserves the right to reclaim the bonus element of such offers and in their absolute discretion either settle bets at the correct odds, void the free bet bonus and risk free bets or void any bet funded by the deposit bonus. In addition, Bitcasino.io reserves the right to levy an administration charge on the customer up to the value of the deposit bonus, free bet bonus, risk free bet or additional payment to cover administrative costs. We further reserve the right to ask any customer to provide sufficient documentation for us to be satisfied in our absolute discretion as to the customer's identity prior to us crediting any bonus, free bet, risk free bet or offer to their account.
10.4. All Bitcasino.io offers are intended for recreational players and Bitcasino.io may in its sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in all or part of any promotion.
10.5. Bitcasino.io reserves the right to amend, cancel, reclaim or refuse any promotion at its own discretion.
10.6. Bonuses can only be received once per person/account, family, household, address, e-mail address, IP addresses and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc.). The Operator reserves the right to close your account and confiscate any existing funds if evidence of abuse/fraud is found.
13. Breaches, Penalties and Termination
13.1. If you breach any provision of these Terms and Conditions or we have a reasonable ground to suspect that you have breached them, we reserve the right to not open, to suspend, or to close your Member Account, or withhold payment of your winnings and apply such funds to any damages due by you.

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Bitcasino
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Hi,

We have sent further info to AG as requested.

Best Regards,
Bitcasino
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hi
how come i still havent recieved any evidence as a suspect of your fraud accusation?

Raio-X do Bitcasino.io

Resolvido 9 / 11
Valor médio $22,662
Duração média da reclamação 6 dias
Resposta média 2 dias
Withdrawal declined without explanation

Hello,

So, 1st of May I've deposited some funds, played a bit and won a small amount, tried to withdraw to see how instant it is. My withdrawals kept being rejected without any explanation, 3 times, 0 notifications or emails to inform me something is wrong (as visible on the screenshot). First chat, agent says it was processed and I should receive it. Funds returned to my balance and I think, "oh I'm stupid I've used the deposit address for withdrawal, my bad". Second chat: "You need to send en email to [email protected]" Ok, I send an email and wait for 3 days, no reply. 3rd chat I ask about the email and the same agent from the second chat says you should be fine to withdraw now, just make the request and let me know if it worked. 25 miuntes later I ask on chat and my withdrawal is declined while I am on chat and the agent tells me to contact [email protected] again.

I did again, first email wasn't replied ever so I don't expect it to happen this time. In any case it will take 6+ days to get 6mBTC out to exactly the same address it was deposited from, so there is no reason to really confirm anything. I've played at Bitstarz, never had a single issue, never had anyone harras me for days and chat agents actually gave me information about what is happening and I verified my account when they asked. This...

I honestly do not care about those 6mBTC, take them, but what is exactly going on and why are you harrasing me with constant wrong and incomplete information? I understand those are small amounts for Bitcasino but this type of treatment of anybody is just horrific.

Status solved Resolvido
Withdrawal still pending after 6 days
I successfully requested a withdrawal of AUD $700 on September 26, 2020 at 2.58pm which was accepted and put into pending after requesting the withdrawal. As I am from Australia, i requested a bank transfer as I have done with all my past withdrawals at this casino. I usually only ever have my withdrawals sitting in pending for no longer than 1 day maximum before the status changes to accepted and my winnings are reflected and paid in my nominated bank account. This time however, my withdrawal is still PENDING and it is now the 2nd October (6 days later)!!! I have tried chat support many times seeking an explanation as to why such a lengthy delay only to be told to be patient and that my money is safe and to continue to wait as this is with their processors. The terms and conditions pertaining to withdrawals made via bank transfer are very clear stating "All Bank Transfer payouts are processed within three (3) banking days." It has now exceeded this time frame and i have just been informed yet again that i need to be patient and wait. I find this highly unacceptable considering I play at this casino respecting their rules and terms but yet it seems that when i query them regarding a valid inquiry which contravenes their own terms, i am told to be patient and wait. I requested that their processor be contacted and for my payment to be fast tracked but this was refused and told i had to wait. It is now Friday and an entire business week has passed (5 days) and my withdrawal is yet to be processed to be paid to me, this is unacceptable and I am extremely upset given that a valid and reasonable request to escalate my inquiry refused. Every single past withdrawal at this casino was requested and paid to my nominated bank account within 3 days maximum. I am now seeking your help to ensure that the casino's terms and conditions around my withdrawal using bank transfer is adhered too without further delay especially as it is now Friday in Australia and I expect to have my winnings paid into my bank account today before the weekend.
Status rejected Rejeitado
$700
Account closed unjustly
I registered for the first time on bitcasino on 30 april 2020 and started playing after making a first deposit by bitcoin.
I had never had another account on that website, it is my first and only account.

I then made multiple other deposits and played for hours with a lot of money.
I had read the terms and conditions of the website and played on it strictly respecting it's rules. I didn't do any fraudulent activity.

On 13 May 2020, I tried to log on my account and it was written "Your account is disabled - Please contact client service"

So did I, I received a quick answer telling me that "due to being linked to another account which is currently under a self-exclusion, your account has been added to your original self exclusion"


As I never asked for any self-exclusion whatsoever and never had another account or linked, I didn't understand what was the matter. I was reassured, my account was not disabled for fraudulent reason or anything, It was a mistake and I just had to tell the support about that to get my account unlocked.

I went to the terms and conditions to learn about it and saw

"Self-exclusion requests must be made by email from the account’s registered email address to our customer support department at [email protected]."
" To proceed with this process, we will require an email response. If we do not receive a response within a further 24-hrs, your account will be reopened and confirmed by email."
" If after reviewing our self-exclusion options you decide you would like to proceed with a permanent self-exclusion, please, inform us of this in your response."

I never did any of that so this must have been a mistake. Terms and conditions are clearly saying that requests must be made from my registered email and that I would receive an email to confirm the exclusion . No email was ever sent by me and I didn't receive any email about that from Bitcasino.
I contacted the CS again telling them that this was a mistake, providing them with my name and everything so they can check that I only have one account on the website.
They redirected me to their security service, I explained the issue again and the security service ignored me for days.

After 5 days of being ignored at security service, I replied to the original client service mail telling them that security service isn't answering, I got completely ignored as well on this email.

I opened another ticket by email telling them that I never asked for any suspension and never linked my account to another one (I still don't even know what it means). I asked for more information about this exclusion and they answered me with the exact same answer as first time, telling me that my account is self-excluded. I already knew that but they didn't give more information. I replied again asking for informations and got ignored.

I contacted them again multiple times, explaining clearly that I never asked for self-exclusion and never linked my account but they always either completely ignored my request or answered with the copy paste answer not providing any information, only telling me that I am self excluded.

They added things such as "under a self-exclusion, at your request, we can confirm that your new account has been added to your original self-exclusion."
"We hope that you find this time away beneficial. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any more information."

I have never asked for any self-exclusion, there is no "original self-exclusion" this is my first and only account on the website, but bitcasino blatantly refuses to review my case and always answers me with a copy-paste.

I have played a lot of money on this website and climbed quite high on the fidelity program. I respected the terms and conditions. My account got "self-excluded" without any warning and without any action on my part.
I am willing to send any necessary proof of identity to Bitcasino so they can see that I have only one account but I have been contacting CS for two weeks now, they are refusing to review my case and ignore my request.
Status solved Resolvido