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Von Cedermark
vor 3 Jahren
Hey Askgamblers! I really need your help in this situation. I've sent more then 14 emails, 30 documents that provided my adress, proof of payment, bank details etc.

I have been told on chat that it would not take more then 48 hours and it has now been over 14 days. I've read the t&c carefully and they don't ever mention that I can't move or change my adress. I have provided the casino with all documents to shows my adress and they are ignoring all emails, support or chats.

I've not violated any terms or conditions and all they say is nothing. I've asked for the reason of my block for the account and the cashout but they have not informed me with any details what to do or have not shown any t&c that stops me from moving or change my adress at the account.

They have also approved all documents once and then in the chat telling me that I'm not verified. I really need help here because I'm being ignored and they don't answer at any emails.
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Dear all,

We regret to inform you that following the submitter's confirmation that the issue, subject to this dispute, has already been raised with the relevant regulatory body and, taking into account the fact that the parties did not reach a mutual agreement of settling the dispute, the AskGamblers Complaint Team has no other option but to close this complaint as unresolved. As a direct consequence of such closure, the operator's ranking score on AskGamblers will be decreased accordingly. 

As soon as the AskGamblers Complaint Team is notified about the regulator's final decision on the case, we will comply and mark this complaint accordingly.

User name loyalty-level-2
Thanks once again for your response!

Well now you use your own T&C against me when you have violated your own terms and conditions by not letting players know that they cannot live in postal box adresses. And that's a very big issue here becasue if you would have said that in your own t&c that I agreed on I would have never played, made deposits, place bets or even creating an account.


I've did email you several times that the adress was not correct and it needed to be updated to my real residantal living. Wich I'm force to upload documents to you and that I didn't have any problems with. The problem was and still is that you ignored the email and the requested change to the correct adress while i kept playing and made deposits and then you blocked the account and asked for documents wich I sent and you never took responsibility to read the emails, change the adress or give me an answer.

More then 14 days went by and you never answered but you let me kept playing and then when I uploaded my real documents you specifictly told me that, and I quote:
Players with box adresses are not accepted and your uploaded documents did not match the adress. Do you have a explanation for that. "End of quote "

Then I answered you again that I have provided you with such details and such info that I live on the street Box ********


And then you kept stalling, stalling and ignoring all sent documents and I was in the chat several times per day to have you informed why and how the adresses was box. I also said that it does not say in your T&C that you do not accept players with box adreeses. Therefor since I am not accepted as a player all deposits shall be voided and refunded to the player.


This request was also made the second I received an email that it's not accepted. And you answered that of course we will take care of that but that it not what you have done. You have not been following the rules of your own rules to keep the funds on the account and wanna take the easy way out and make me tired of this. But that's not gonna happen, you have broken the rules that you are entitled to follow and you have ignoring and issue that could have been solved withing a minute.


This case will be solved when the confiscated funds are returned and that you withdraw it back to my account.



I also wanna let Askgamblers that the game providers, play and go, yggrasil, payment provider and the MGA have been notified of this case and the payment providers Zimpler is a Swedish business that take this very seriously becasue they have also seen the emails and the lies that this casino has been saying in chats.


A response from the MGA has not yet been received or the game providers. But payment provider Zimpler have been and they are looking for a force chargeback for a solution of this case since they have not been written down the accepted players rules.


I have also tried to make a friendly and kind solution on email with twin but my email is blocked and I can't send anything to them.

But I also wanna say that the casino is a great casino overall if they would have taking things seriously and treated players with respect as any other casino would have. If Askgamblers wants to receive all details and also want me to put them on this complaint I will be happy to do that.


But I hope that twin see a solution to this matter and fulfill my request due to the error in their T&C. I have the old one saved since I made the account and there is no point at all in there that says Players with box adress are not accepted.


I hope that we can solve this issue Twin. I really do and it's not even alot to refund I think this is really unfair and not justified

Looking forward for your response
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Hello Cedermark,

In regards to your reply we would like to inform on the following:

We make every effort to respond to verification inquiries within 48 hours. However, due to unforeseen circumstances, our reply may sometimes be slightly delayed. Rest assured that we never intentionally ignore messages from our customers.
You can sign up or change your address with and to any address you are officially residing. This is stated in our Terms and Conditions:
“2. On registration, you must provide the following valid personal information that matches your identity documents:
Residential address
3. You must inform us of any changes to your personal or financial details (such as address, bank or e-wallet account) at registration and from then on, which may affect the use of your player account.”

We will not be held responsible for any typing error from your end.

We have not stalled or refused the acceptance of any valid documents. We informed you on the fact that we cannot accept a BO address if you are not residing at this address. You confirmed after that this is the case, therefore we would not have rejected any valid proof. Our records show that the Proof of Address submitted by you was rejected as it was a screenshot and not an acceptable document as per our standards. However, all other documents submitted by you were accepted.

No withdrawals have been refused or delayed due to the unverified status.
The account was permanently closed due to a refund request from your end and was in accordance with our internal procedures.

No funds were confiscated or withheld. You have created an account with us, made deposits and then played. There is no remaining balance that could be refunded.

We consider this matter closed.

Kind regards,
Twin
User name loyalty-level-2

Okey! This whole response is based on a lie and for many reasons.

First of all you have had a timeframe on 24-48 hours to approve or not approve documents that you have required.

Source of wealth was never approved and uploaded on the 19th and you never approved them or gave any answer what so ever in any circumstances.

I've provided all documents for this and reminded you everyday that you need to fix this and have it sorted out. But you never did even though I reminded you more then 10 times.

Second of all you where given proof of payments with bout PDF, screenshot, payment history, shown URL. And explanation that if you double tap on the picture you will connect to the source of the bank. You never approved them even though I sent alot of different proof that I'm the owner of the account.

You have after that said that the documents was approved but after one hour later your chat said once again I need to send proof of payment wich I did.

And now for the account blockage and the illegal funds that you're holding without any reason what so ever. Your only escape from this was to permanently close the account because that's your only way to act when you know you've been lying and ignoring legitimate documents for your own winnings.

There are not stated in your T&C that players with box adresses are not allowed to play at this casino.

When I opened the account I reas all T&C and there was no such thing as an order to follow. For the easy use of creating the account I've used autofill wich is not illegal and it had my old adress on it. I then saw that and came to the chat and said I wanna change the adress because it's not correct. They responded that you need to contact the security team to have it changed.

Wich I did several times without any answer, response or explanation for the delay of the change.

When I said my adress is Box address you said players with box adresses are not allowed. That had me thinking oh that's a big problem becasue I can't give you anything else and I can't see that in your T&C. I never got any response from that at all but you clearly said in the chat aswell that box adresses are not accepted for players.

Therefore I said well you need to change your T&C and refund the deposits and void all bets. But you never answered on that either and I kept sending everything I have and could get my hands on.

Birth certificate

IRS tax plan

Utility bills and more that every single document had Box 4413 ****** Stockholm and my name on it.


Once again you answered why is your adress not the same as the account wich I gave a clearly response and explanation on that you never responded to.

I kept sending document after documents that you never responded to and once I said that you have violated your own T&C you kept on stalling and ignoring all sent documents and said the same thing. Your adress is not the same give me a reason for this?

I have already given you this several times and you never responded.

And then for the last part when I told you I will submit a complaint because of you can't accept players that are let's say homeless or have protected ID for their jobs andbox adresses. you need to say this in your T&C. You never responded to that and you have not in anyway treated this with professional care or support as a legitimate casino should.

If the T&C have said players with Box adresses are not allowed I would never have played or made any deposits what so ever. Therefore all deposits shall be voided and returned to player becasue a casino is out of luck or unlucky and you can win or lose! But in my case it would have been giving away money for free bacsue I'm not allowed at your casino due to the adress and if I cant play and live where I live the deposits or any winnings would never been able to withdraw. You have said clearly "PLAYERS WITH BOX ADRESSES ARE NOT ACCEPTED" but it didn't or doesn't say that in your T&C.

But however!! I did after several days find an document that shown my latest adress that was filled in automatically you said: Documents is to old

But I explained this to you several times with money on the account that you need to change the adress to the correct one but you never did. You ignored it and you have closed the account and confiscated the deposits without any realistic reason except you made want to "protect me as a player"

That is not regulated by any law or any T&C that you have on your website. It's made up and it's a illegal process to make.

I've been nothing more then fair and respectfull in every chat and in every email that has been sent but you have been ignoring and stalling everything for over two weeks.

Therefor the only solution to this matter is to void all deposits and send them back to me. I could never have won, I should never have been accepted to play and ignoring the time-frame to solve this you could have stopped this from happening.

If Askgamblers wants me to send all documents, emails and more emails and chats that prove you wrong I will be happy to do that. But I hope that we can fix this without name dropping every person that has lied in your chats and email..

I have full responsibility to read any terms and have not violated anything and should have not been accepted as a player and would never have been able to play if you had your T&C fulfilled.

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Casino deliberately doesn't accept submitted documents

Hello!

I have trouble with Twin Casino. The casino deliberately doesn't accept submitted documents that meet the stated requirements.

After the verification request, the following documents were sent to the casino.

On March 25, I completed and submitted the "Source of Wealth - Questionnaire"

On March 28, I sent documents confirming funds received as winnings from another casino to make a deposit at Twin Casino:

screenshot of my casino account with my personal details,

screenshot of casino winnings,

the transaction history of my Skrill payment wallet, which shows the receipt of winnings from the casino.

On May 08, I sent the following documents to the casino:

Skrill statement for the last 3 months (02/07/2023 - 05/08/2023). The preamble of the statement contains my personal data: Customer ID, and email.

The Skrill payment system statement does not contain my personal data, such as first and last name, address, and phone number. In this regard, I provide you - A screenshot of my personal Skrill profile with my personal data: last name and first name, address, phone number, Customer ID, and email.

Screenshot of my casino account with my personal information: first and last name, phone number, email, date of my birth

Screenshot of my casino deposits for the last 90 days.

Screenshot of my withdrawals for the last 90 days.

The casino did not accept these documents, asking them to provide them in the best quality, but an extract from the Skrill payment wallet indicating the name and surname. to do this, I contacted Skrill directly with a request to send a statement in accordance with the requirements of Twin Casino.

On May 12, I sent the documents sent earlier in good quality to Twin Casino, as well as a Skrill statement indicating the name and surname.

But, the documents were not accepted again!!!

None of the casinos had such problems when passing verification! Moreover, having studied the information about the casino license, I hoped to receive high-quality services, but instead, for 2 months I send various documents for verification.

I can't solve the problem on my own, please help me.


Thank you in advance.

Status unsolved Ungelöst
Seven flawless proof of address refused
Hello.

I made my withdrawal three weeks ago and have been in constant contact with their verification team since then.

They keep rejecting my documents even though I have provided them with seven different proof of address.

They ask for some of the following documents:

Proof of Address
An official document such as:
• Utility bill. (including electric, natural gas, water, and waste)
• Bank statement
• Council tax bill
• Recent mortgage statement.
• Home Insurance certificate or policy.
• Letter from national or local governments.
• Landline, internet and/or TV broadband bill
• Credit reference agency
• Health and car insurance documents
or any official letter from the government issued to you, showing your name, address and date of issue (not older than 6 months).

I have provided statements from all the norwegian banks where I am a customer, I have sent several documents from norwegian authorities as well, including the military and norwegian police.

I feel totally hopeless since this process has taken forever and I keep refusing documents that are valid based on the list above. I have won ≈1300 EUR and it is obvious to me that they simply don't want to pay me my winnings and that they will refuse whatever document I send to them. I feel bitter and irritated, the treatment has been nothing else than highly unprofessional (sometimes they don't respond to my emails even in four days).

I really need help, I did not expect this from a MGA licensed company.
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€1,300
Delayed withdrawals for almost 2 weeks

Hi

I have 15 pending withdrawals of 5k EUR each on Twin Casino.

These are winnings from different days: December 30-31, January 2-4, and now from a major win on January 8.

These withdrawals (almost 2 weeks old) are delayed due to a gameplay check by the provider, I was told in my contact with the casino.

Their Loyalty program customer service is always very helpful and assures me that my winnings are on the way and that these are pure routine checks. But for every day that passes I'm getting more and more worried that my winnings will not be paid out.

The "problem" is that I have kept playing during this time, since they assured me that any new possible winnings are not affected by this delay and should be processed regularly, and have (after first losing a large amount of the winnings) kept winning more and more. So I'm now up to 75k in winnings that have not yet been processed or paid out.

I'm actually very happy with my overall experience on Twin and have nothing negative to say about the casino except this delay that worries me. I have had previous withdrawals that have taken a maximum of 3 days on Twin.

I have read and reread the terms of the casino and I have not broken any rules or regulations also my account was verified twice, the last time on December 23 (only a week before the first withdrawal request in this "issue").

During my contact with the casino I have asked many times if they have everything from me to process these withdrawals after the GP check is done, and I have been assured many times that they have everything they need from me and are only waiting on the green light from the game provider. However, this morning I woke to find an email about needing to send proof of wealth, documents that I have already sent to them in December.

I uploaded these again immediately (about 10 hours ago) and haven't heard from them again, even though I tried emailing and live chatting with them to get an explanation after this request.

I'm hesitant to create this issue with you, but I'm very concerned now that my winnings will never reach me, and I am no longer getting a response from the casino, so I'm asking you for help.

I have screenshots of all the withdrawal requests and also from my game transactions with large/major wins and some screenshots from the actual game when I won. I also have all the written contact conversations (e-mails) with the casino saved and attached.

Thank you in advance!

Status solved Gelöst
€75,000
Seven working days and still waiting for withdrawal processing

As suggested by your customer care I am filing this complaint, since it been 7 working days already.

I won over 900000 Indian rupees (about 10600 Euros) in Twin casino (win links attached). When I requested the withdrawal, Twin casino asked me to submit my payment verification, which got approved within a day. However, upon asking when they will process my withdrawal request, they told me they have submitted the request to the management (all chat with support is attached). First, Twin casino told me that withdrawal will get processed within hours, then Twin casino told me that withdrawal processing will be done in 3 days, after 3 days when I asked them about the withdrawal processing, Akiko (customer support) from Twin casino told me it will take maximum 7 days (transcript attached). Now it’s been more than 7 working days and a total of 9 days, Twin casino still hasn’t processed my withdrawal request. Moreover, they haven’t responded me through email since I have already sent 2 emails to them.

Now I am concerned about my withdrawal and decided to put forward an official complaint.

Things to note:

1. no bonus is used, the money I deposited was all raw money.

2. All my verification is done

3. I am their VIP customer

4. I have attached most of the required files (transcript of chat with customer support, withdrawal page screenshot, Link from the provider of my winning “https://replay.nolimitcity.com/show/gibibomediho?device=desktop&language=en”)

I request you to please solve this issue since now I am concerned that I won’t be getting my withdrawal.

Status solved Gelöst
₹900,000