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Von Shane O.
vor 10 Jahren
Had issues with Betfairs Live Black Jack . It would hit or stick when i didnt want it to or do the opposite what i said. This resulted in me loosing a fair amount of money when i didnt issue the commands. When i contacted them the fist response was to question my laptop or internet connection. I have a brand new laptop and fibre optic broadband so no issues there. aThey did refund me slightly but no where near the amount i lost. I must advise anyone to stay clear of betfair as they are no where near as helpful as bet 365 or other online casnios when there is an issue. I Have since closed my account and still awaiting a response.
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Based on player's last comment, we consider this case as resolved and it is now officially closed.
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Well ok in terms of the refund ok I wasn't really complaining about it. However two things you forget to mention in your message. Your customer service is very hit and miss. There are people who are very interested in helping and others that are rude and arrogant, and I would be happy to tell exactly who as I remember. Also it took me to make a complaint and this website for you to respond to me. I was promised a personel email and it's nearly four days later and I haven't received any response. So your team promised me an email within 24-48 hours. So how do you respond to that? Also I am very aware of unlimited black jack as you should know as it's all that I play on your website and I only started to have issues with it latley and I'm only telling you what happened on my computer! I'm not looking for anything anymore I just think you should deal with things better and if you promise someone a response then keep to the time frame you give them.
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Hi Shane,

First of all, apologies for the issues you faced playing Betfair Live Casino.

Please be sure that the helpdesk & Live Casino team have undertaken a full investigation of your issue and have come back to me with the below details.

The game being played was Unlimited Live Blackjack where 100’s of customers are playing on the same Blackjack box – for example, if you have 14 and you choose to ‘stick’ another player may decide they want a card – it does not affect your total of 14. So from the perspective of a player unfamiliar with the rules you may click the ‘Stand’ button but they see a further card being dealt, not realizing the extra card/s do not affect your total.

When you load this game there is a message which warns you of the different rules, please see in the attachment

There are a handful of instances where helpdesk has been contacted about issues with the Casino.

• Disconnections on June 26th were caused by a DDOS attack on Playtech (our game supplier), which effected all players on the network. You accepted a bonus as compensation for this.

• All games on the 29th & 30th appear to have been played with solid blackjack strategy and you were fully able to make decisions as far as we can tell on every single hand

• On these days you also received €23 of goodwill cash bonuses (your loses on these 2 days were €28), not because we suspected there was a game error, simply to ensure your experience was and is enjoyable, and that you left the live help chat with a positive experience – We believe this is the case as on a number of occasions as you kindly took the trouble to advise the chat operator how impressed you were with the service and attention they were supplying and had supplied previously.

From the above it appears the issue was that you weren’t aware you were playing Unlimited Blackjack where the rules slightly differ to standard Blackjack, causing some confusion but not directly leading to any losses as you were always in control of your hand and playing solid basic blackjack strategy.


Please let me know if you would like to discuss further

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1950 skrill withdrawal never received as well as 249 trustly deposit not arriving
Dear sir/madam,

After 4 years of being a loyal customer, unfortunately it seems Betfair is turning rouge on their customers.
On the 11th of August I made a deposit using their “Instant” deposit service Trustly. For 249 euro’s. This payment had the following ID: 2538116405. It never arrived, but did show up in my transaction history on Betfair.

I’ve spoked to many people in their customer service chat, as well as with several managers which all admitted to Betfair having issues with Trustly and assuring me that I wasn’t the only one with this problem. They assured me to be patient and that the issue would get resolved. It had happened twice before several weeks, so I was patient and was confident they would resolve the matter. Unfortunately though, today the deposit was also deleted from my transaction history. After speaking to customer service I was simply told “you never deposited – there’s nothing we can or will do for you – you have to contact Trustly.”.

Right before posting this message I have sent Trustly a message, so hopefully I’ll be receiving a response swiftly. How-ever, I do want Ask gamblers to be aware of these problems since I doubt Trustly is the problem here due to the following reason:

Next to the deposit problem, which has now occurred three times. I’ve also encountered a withdrawal problem. On 2020-08-14 at 00:07 I have made a withdrawal of 1950 to my Skrill account. After waiting for 5 days I decided to ask customer service why I hadn’t received my withdraw yet in time and was simply told it got denied without any particular reason. I was told the withdraw would be reversed and I had to withdraw again, also stating that It might get denied again since it was denied without reason (and thus nothing changes when I make another try at withdrawing. This essentially results in an endless loop in which I don’t receive either my deposits or withdrawals.

Personally, after being treated very rude by customers service (note; I wasn’t too pleasant myself – but I always get generic copy paste messages and missed thousands in arbs/bonuses due to their broken promises which aren't compensated for at all after paying thousands in commissions). I’m not convinced I’ll ever receive my money back from this company.

I can prove everything I spoke about with screen captures / bank notes etc. If anything is needed – please tell me where to send it to and I’ll make sure it’s being dealt with accordingly.

Also, Betfair, if you’re reading this: please do the right thing and make the refund. I need the money and I rely on the reliability of the betting exchange for my livelihood. You’re the only constant in the betting world, so please make sure you stay constant and do the right thing and make your loyal customers whole again.

Thank you very much in advance,

Kind regards.
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Good Afternoon,


I am emailing today to raise a complaint about Betfair. I have included my account details below for completeness:


< Personal data removed >


I recently created an account with Betfair as I had read online of their excellent reputation - I am fairly new to the gambling scene so I thought I would pick a reputable brand. However, after my experience I can say I am less than impressed with their fairness and how I have been treated.


I deposited £500 to fund my Betfair account and it was accepted almost immediately with no problems. I then started gambling and was fortunate enough to get a mixture of winnings from the online casino and sports betting to get my account balance up to £5000. I then decided I would withdraw my winnings – this is where the problems began.


The following day, I received an email asking for verification documents in the form of ID and proof of address, to verify my account. I was fully expecting this as with every other gambling site, so I sent in my driving license, a photo of me holding my driving license (with my face in view – I thought I would go the extra mile) and a bank statement. I then received an email the following day saying my account had been closed by the security department on business grounds and in line with their terms and conditions – at this point my initial deposit of £500 was returned. I emailed Betfair querying this and their response was “it was a business decision and once your documents have been approved your account will be re-opened and you will be able to withdraw your funds” I was reassured that that my remaining account balance of £4500 would be kept safe and payed out once my account had been verified. To be honest this was a load of rubbish. 3 days later after chasing the live chat agents’ multiple times and after being told the same thing time and time again. I was eventually told (on the 5th time of asking) via live chat that my account was going to be kept closed and the remaining balance in my account was voided. All email contact has been ignored and I am having to chase Betfair via live chat to get any form of response.


I deposited my own money, risked losing my own money - I could have lost, but on this occasion, I won, and I fully cooperated with question and the verification process. However, my winnings and being withheld. Betfair have to pay out what is fairly and rightfully due to me. I can assure you if I had lost my initial deposit of £500 Betfair would most certainly not have returned this.


I would appreciate it if you could take a look at this case, and hopefully Betfair pay out what is fairly and rightfully due to me. I have no interest in them closing my account indefinitely as to be honest I have 0 respect for this company.


I look forward to your response,

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Good afternoon.

At the end of December, I registered at Betfair casino. since the casino was new to me, I started with small deposits. But for some time I made small deposits from 100 to 500 euros.. then I started making relatively large deposits through the Neteller payment system from 1000 to 2000 euros. I played various games: slots, blackjack, and sports betting... 10.01.2019 I made a Deposit of 2101 euros, played slots, card games, then put the money on the withdrawal.. I didn't receive any money for several days. the support service said that according to their withdrawal rules, the period can be up to 48 hours. I was waiting for the money, but after 2-3 days I received a notification that my account was blocked, Betfair holds the money, and this decision is not subject to discussion (See the letter in the attachment: message of blocked account.jpeg).

I never received any emails about violating any of the rules of the game or anything like that from them during the entire game.Instead, immediately send a message about blocking.

I was shocked.

I immediately responded to the email with a request to explain the reason for blocking (see attachment: the answer about the account blocking.jpeg). In response, I received only the standard response that this decision was made by the security service and they do not name the reasons (see attachment: the answer#2.jpeg).

after this response, I decided to write them a letter describing the whole situation as I see it from my side and asking them to clarify the situation AGAIN (See attachment question #2.jpeg). On such a letter from my side, I received AGAIN their standard response: that they do not have access to specific details and put the status: eliminated! (see attachment answer #3.jpeg). In other words, this dialogue has reached a dead end. they respond to all my letters in a monotonous manner and do not give any specifics. So I decided to ask you for help.

P.S. in the attachment, I also attach all correspondence in the e-mail format, since all correspondence was with the Russian-language Betfair support service, I did not receive letters in English from them. also, please note that some of the email they answered was not a text message, but by inserting photos with the answer, so to read them you need to follow the links that they have in their responses. But for convenience, I made all the correspondence in Jpeg format (see all the attachments that I provided)...

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